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The Ribbon
I too hate the ribbon. Many years ago it was discovered that the best
interface was a a row of drop down menus. Each item on the menu should be alternatively accessible by a 2 or 3 letter code. That code should be shown alongside each menu item. The menu items should not change to suit context or whatever. How can anyone remember where things are when they keep changing! I wish they would stop changing the interface as a futile attempt to try to justify issuing another version. I would like to tell them where they can stick their icons! At least if it is a word you can look it up in the help., but an icon! the damn thing just sits there. |
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hi
now that your are through venting....let me vent. by now we all should realize that so much has changed that the new excel is a brand new application masquerading as the old excel. from my management training i was told that redical change too often brings more problems that it sets out to solve. change should be managed, phased in, ideally...snuck in the back door so that no one notices. but we now seem to see all the problems that 2007 seems to have brought and are a little foggy about what problems it set out to solve. someone enlighten me. please. regards FSt1 "YDOD" wrote: I too hate the ribbon. Many years ago it was discovered that the best interface was a a row of drop down menus. Each item on the menu should be alternatively accessible by a 2 or 3 letter code. That code should be shown alongside each menu item. The menu items should not change to suit context or whatever. How can anyone remember where things are when they keep changing! I wish they would stop changing the interface as a futile attempt to try to justify issuing another version. I would like to tell them where they can stick their icons! At least if it is a word you can look it up in the help., but an icon! the damn thing just sits there. |
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As best as I can determine, the problem it solved was one of employment.
With the deployment of Excel 2007, the folks in the Help Desk division of the IT/IS support department are guaranteed income for quite some time. I've examined the ribbon and as near as I can tell it was designed to give the NOVICE user fast ability to find basic functions with default settings (determined to be the default by Heaven only knows who). This was no doubt insidiously designed to bring the novice on equal footing with the veteran user who could find his way through the drop downs with their eyes closed. Now they are both helplessly lost about 85% of the time - click .. ring ... yes, Help Desk? Job security. I figure that same 85% has the Help Desk on speed dial. And if Insert Page Break is on the Insert tab, why is it along with insert Section Break and so many others on the "page layout" tab? Should I even start in on all the lost time and effort put into designing custom menus for individual worksheets in all those archaic versions of Excel - you remember, the ones that you could actually tell which cells you had selected? [steps down off of soap box] "FSt1" wrote: hi now that your are through venting....let me vent. by now we all should realize that so much has changed that the new excel is a brand new application masquerading as the old excel. from my management training i was told that redical change too often brings more problems that it sets out to solve. change should be managed, phased in, ideally...snuck in the back door so that no one notices. but we now seem to see all the problems that 2007 seems to have brought and are a little foggy about what problems it set out to solve. someone enlighten me. please. regards FSt1 "YDOD" wrote: I too hate the ribbon. Many years ago it was discovered that the best interface was a a row of drop down menus. Each item on the menu should be alternatively accessible by a 2 or 3 letter code. That code should be shown alongside each menu item. The menu items should not change to suit context or whatever. How can anyone remember where things are when they keep changing! I wish they would stop changing the interface as a futile attempt to try to justify issuing another version. I would like to tell them where they can stick their icons! At least if it is a word you can look it up in the help., but an icon! the damn thing just sits there. |
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your observation about the help desk is the best explination i have heard to
date. did Bill forsee the current economic situation??? prase Bill. yet based on what i was taught, i still cannot understand why microsoft would introduce such a radical brake. yes put the novice on level ground but what about the experieced user who is now total confused needing this site to find out where everything got moved to.... http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/he...491511033.aspx i wonder how many departments and businesses have been shut down because of severe confusion thinking they were getting something better instead of something different???? I could go on and on but i suspect that 2007 is here to stay so i will just shut up now. i'm sure a lot of you out that will be thankful of that. no applause necessary. sigh [stepping down off MY soap box] regards FSt1 "JLatham" wrote: As best as I can determine, the problem it solved was one of employment. With the deployment of Excel 2007, the folks in the Help Desk division of the IT/IS support department are guaranteed income for quite some time. I've examined the ribbon and as near as I can tell it was designed to give the NOVICE user fast ability to find basic functions with default settings (determined to be the default by Heaven only knows who). This was no doubt insidiously designed to bring the novice on equal footing with the veteran user who could find his way through the drop downs with their eyes closed. Now they are both helplessly lost about 85% of the time - click .. ring ... yes, Help Desk? Job security. I figure that same 85% has the Help Desk on speed dial. And if Insert Page Break is on the Insert tab, why is it along with insert Section Break and so many others on the "page layout" tab? Should I even start in on all the lost time and effort put into designing custom menus for individual worksheets in all those archaic versions of Excel - you remember, the ones that you could actually tell which cells you had selected? [steps down off of soap box] "FSt1" wrote: hi now that your are through venting....let me vent. by now we all should realize that so much has changed that the new excel is a brand new application masquerading as the old excel. from my management training i was told that redical change too often brings more problems that it sets out to solve. change should be managed, phased in, ideally...snuck in the back door so that no one notices. but we now seem to see all the problems that 2007 seems to have brought and are a little foggy about what problems it set out to solve. someone enlighten me. please. regards FSt1 "YDOD" wrote: I too hate the ribbon. Many years ago it was discovered that the best interface was a a row of drop down menus. Each item on the menu should be alternatively accessible by a 2 or 3 letter code. That code should be shown alongside each menu item. The menu items should not change to suit context or whatever. How can anyone remember where things are when they keep changing! I wish they would stop changing the interface as a futile attempt to try to justify issuing another version. I would like to tell them where they can stick their icons! At least if it is a word you can look it up in the help., but an icon! the damn thing just sits there. |
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