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have a spreadsheet that has data in in HTML controls.
For example in D4 there is an embed function that contains the control
HTMLText15. It shows 87.3

If I use the function value(D4) I get 0.

If I write a macro with VBA code I can reference HTMLText15.value and
put in cell D4 in another worksheet.
How do I know where the HTMLText controls are. Has anyone worked with
these.
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