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need to learn it all... quickly!
I've got a job interview for an office administration position in a week's
time. I've said that I'm familiar with all Microsoft Office applications which is a bit of an exaggeration as I have never really used Excel that much. I have been using the MSN tutorials online and I'm finding them very user-friendly, and easy to follow. However, there are almost forty different lessons and I won't have time to do them all. During my interview I have been told I will be sitting a 20 minute test on Excel... which of the lessons would you suggest as the most necessary to study?? Kind thanks. |
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So let me get this straight - first you lie about your ability/qualifications, then you come along here asking for help with
cheating to hide the lie. You've got a hide! -- macropod [MVP - Microsoft Word] "ziploc_chik" wrote in message ... I've got a job interview for an office administration position in a week's time. I've said that I'm familiar with all Microsoft Office applications which is a bit of an exaggeration as I have never really used Excel that much. I have been using the MSN tutorials online and I'm finding them very user-friendly, and easy to follow. However, there are almost forty different lessons and I won't have time to do them all. During my interview I have been told I will be sitting a 20 minute test on Excel... which of the lessons would you suggest as the most necessary to study?? Kind thanks. |
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Book - Excel for Dummies
But what happens when you get the job and do not know how to make a pivot table? best wishes -- Bernard V Liengme Microsoft Excel MVP http://people.stfx.ca/bliengme remove caps from email "ziploc_chik" wrote in message ... I've got a job interview for an office administration position in a week's time. I've said that I'm familiar with all Microsoft Office applications which is a bit of an exaggeration as I have never really used Excel that much. I have been using the MSN tutorials online and I'm finding them very user-friendly, and easy to follow. However, there are almost forty different lessons and I won't have time to do them all. During my interview I have been told I will be sitting a 20 minute test on Excel... which of the lessons would you suggest as the most necessary to study?? Kind thanks. |
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Do you really think it fair to yourself or your employer to apply for a job
you are unqualified for. -- Don Guillett Microsoft MVP Excel SalesAid Software "ziploc_chik" wrote in message ... I've got a job interview for an office administration position in a week's time. I've said that I'm familiar with all Microsoft Office applications which is a bit of an exaggeration as I have never really used Excel that much. I have been using the MSN tutorials online and I'm finding them very user-friendly, and easy to follow. However, there are almost forty different lessons and I won't have time to do them all. During my interview I have been told I will be sitting a 20 minute test on Excel... which of the lessons would you suggest as the most necessary to study?? Kind thanks. |
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ziploc_chik,
What you need is a little sincerity, once you fake that you got it made. "Don Guillett" wrote: Here is a book that you should find useful. http://www.amazon.com/Integrity-Cour.../dp/0060849681 -- Don Guillett Microsoft MVP Excel SalesAid Software "Don Guillett" wrote in message ... Do you really think it fair to yourself or your employer to apply for a job you are unqualified for. -- Don Guillett Microsoft MVP Excel SalesAid Software "ziploc_chik" wrote in message ... I've got a job interview for an office administration position in a week's time. I've said that I'm familiar with all Microsoft Office applications which is a bit of an exaggeration as I have never really used Excel that much. I have been using the MSN tutorials online and I'm finding them very user-friendly, and easy to follow. However, there are almost forty different lessons and I won't have time to do them all. During my interview I have been told I will be sitting a 20 minute test on Excel... which of the lessons would you suggest as the most necessary to study?? Kind thanks. |
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Oh please.... spare me. Everyone fibs a BIT on their resumé. I've taught
myself the basics of other Microsoft software in an evening. I'm sure Excel basics can't take more than a week. I'm a clever cookie. ;P "Don Guillett" wrote: Do you really think it fair to yourself or your employer to apply for a job you are unqualified for. -- Don Guillett Microsoft MVP Excel SalesAid Software "ziploc_chik" wrote in message ... I've got a job interview for an office administration position in a week's time. I've said that I'm familiar with all Microsoft Office applications which is a bit of an exaggeration as I have never really used Excel that much. I have been using the MSN tutorials online and I'm finding them very user-friendly, and easy to follow. However, there are almost forty different lessons and I won't have time to do them all. During my interview I have been told I will be sitting a 20 minute test on Excel... which of the lessons would you suggest as the most necessary to study?? Kind thanks. |
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Everyone fibs a BIT on their resumé.
No, not everyone, and those who do deserve to be caught. As it is, if you get away with it, you may well be denying someone more deserving than you a job and denying your prospective employer the services of someone who does have the ability & experience - and then costing them extra when they have to fire you and go through the recruitment expense all over again. -- Cheers macropod [MVP - Microsoft Word] |
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"ziploc_chik" wrote in message
... Oh please.... spare me. Everyone fibs a BIT on their resumé. There have been a couple of instances in the UK recently where people have not only lost their jobs through fraudulent CV's but have also been prosecuted in the courts for deception....you have been warned. |
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You know, you are right, I've always wanted to be an airline pilot. Perhaps I
can tell them how good of a pilot I am, and they will hire me.... Sad thing is, if you go through temp agencies, they have the software setup so you can go in and actually train to use the software. -- John C "ziploc_chik" wrote: Oh please.... spare me. Everyone fibs a BIT on their resumé. I've taught myself the basics of other Microsoft software in an evening. I'm sure Excel basics can't take more than a week. I'm a clever cookie. ;P "Don Guillett" wrote: Do you really think it fair to yourself or your employer to apply for a job you are unqualified for. -- Don Guillett Microsoft MVP Excel SalesAid Software "ziploc_chik" wrote in message ... I've got a job interview for an office administration position in a week's time. I've said that I'm familiar with all Microsoft Office applications which is a bit of an exaggeration as I have never really used Excel that much. I have been using the MSN tutorials online and I'm finding them very user-friendly, and easy to follow. However, there are almost forty different lessons and I won't have time to do them all. During my interview I have been told I will be sitting a 20 minute test on Excel... which of the lessons would you suggest as the most necessary to study?? Kind thanks. |
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Aside from the ethical issue (and if I was an employer, I'd probably know how
familiar you were with Excel based on jargon and terminology, not just ability to write a formula or format a cell) ... it is certainly possible to learn Excel in a week, but I'm doubtful of the retention of such learning. If I were you, I'd go through as many of the tutorials as I could. And FYI, you can get a tech job without the knowledge of a program, even being honest about it. My last job required ADVANCED Crystal Reports knowledge. When I started, I knew how to spell Crystal Reports, and that was the extent of it. I told them this and still got the job ... based on my honesty and willingness to learn - two employee traits that are highly desireable. Just some thoughts. "ziploc_chik" wrote: Oh please.... spare me. Everyone fibs a BIT on their resumé. I've taught myself the basics of other Microsoft software in an evening. I'm sure Excel basics can't take more than a week. I'm a clever cookie. ;P "Don Guillett" wrote: Do you really think it fair to yourself or your employer to apply for a job you are unqualified for. -- Don Guillett Microsoft MVP Excel SalesAid Software "ziploc_chik" wrote in message ... I've got a job interview for an office administration position in a week's time. I've said that I'm familiar with all Microsoft Office applications which is a bit of an exaggeration as I have never really used Excel that much. I have been using the MSN tutorials online and I'm finding them very user-friendly, and easy to follow. However, there are almost forty different lessons and I won't have time to do them all. During my interview I have been told I will be sitting a 20 minute test on Excel... which of the lessons would you suggest as the most necessary to study?? Kind thanks. |
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Just one of the things wrong with our society today.
"Everyone fibs a BIT on their resumé" -- Don Guillett Microsoft MVP Excel SalesAid Software "ziploc_chik" wrote in message ... Oh please.... spare me. Everyone fibs a BIT on their resumé. I've taught myself the basics of other Microsoft software in an evening. I'm sure Excel basics can't take more than a week. I'm a clever cookie. ;P "Don Guillett" wrote: Do you really think it fair to yourself or your employer to apply for a job you are unqualified for. -- Don Guillett Microsoft MVP Excel SalesAid Software "ziploc_chik" wrote in message ... I've got a job interview for an office administration position in a week's time. I've said that I'm familiar with all Microsoft Office applications which is a bit of an exaggeration as I have never really used Excel that much. I have been using the MSN tutorials online and I'm finding them very user-friendly, and easy to follow. However, there are almost forty different lessons and I won't have time to do them all. During my interview I have been told I will be sitting a 20 minute test on Excel... which of the lessons would you suggest as the most necessary to study?? Kind thanks. |
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I'm encouraged to see people actually taking a stand for good workplace (and
life) ethics. Our company was damaged by a liar ("fib" is a cute word for something so ugly) and like someone mentioned earlier, our time was wasted, other qualified applicants missed out on an opportunity, and now it's hard to trust people and open up to potentially another fraud. I also think it's insulting to those who are experts at Excel (which I'm definitely not!) to assume you can learn it all in a week. "Don Guillett" wrote: Just one of the things wrong with our society today. "Everyone fibs a BIT on their resumé" -- Don Guillett Microsoft MVP Excel SalesAid Software "ziploc_chik" wrote in message ... Oh please.... spare me. Everyone fibs a BIT on their resumé. I've taught myself the basics of other Microsoft software in an evening. I'm sure Excel basics can't take more than a week. I'm a clever cookie. ;P "Don Guillett" wrote: Do you really think it fair to yourself or your employer to apply for a job you are unqualified for. -- Don Guillett Microsoft MVP Excel SalesAid Software "ziploc_chik" wrote in message ... I've got a job interview for an office administration position in a week's time. I've said that I'm familiar with all Microsoft Office applications which is a bit of an exaggeration as I have never really used Excel that much. I have been using the MSN tutorials online and I'm finding them very user-friendly, and easy to follow. However, there are almost forty different lessons and I won't have time to do them all. During my interview I have been told I will be sitting a 20 minute test on Excel... which of the lessons would you suggest as the most necessary to study?? Kind thanks. |
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Not that I am condoning what this person did, all that we've said, there may
be mitigating circumstances. Long term unemployment, the hiring company had a lack of other qualified candidates, job necessary to support sick family, etc. I am not condoning the fib, but in this economy, I know that desperate times may call for desperate measures. Let he/she who has no sin cast the first stone.... -- John C "CTURNER82" wrote: I'm encouraged to see people actually taking a stand for good workplace (and life) ethics. Our company was damaged by a liar ("fib" is a cute word for something so ugly) and like someone mentioned earlier, our time was wasted, other qualified applicants missed out on an opportunity, and now it's hard to trust people and open up to potentially another fraud. I also think it's insulting to those who are experts at Excel (which I'm definitely not!) to assume you can learn it all in a week. "Don Guillett" wrote: Just one of the things wrong with our society today. "Everyone fibs a BIT on their resumé" -- Don Guillett Microsoft MVP Excel SalesAid Software "ziploc_chik" wrote in message ... Oh please.... spare me. Everyone fibs a BIT on their resumé. I've taught myself the basics of other Microsoft software in an evening. I'm sure Excel basics can't take more than a week. I'm a clever cookie. ;P "Don Guillett" wrote: Do you really think it fair to yourself or your employer to apply for a job you are unqualified for. -- Don Guillett Microsoft MVP Excel SalesAid Software "ziploc_chik" wrote in message ... I've got a job interview for an office administration position in a week's time. I've said that I'm familiar with all Microsoft Office applications which is a bit of an exaggeration as I have never really used Excel that much. I have been using the MSN tutorials online and I'm finding them very user-friendly, and easy to follow. However, there are almost forty different lessons and I won't have time to do them all. During my interview I have been told I will be sitting a 20 minute test on Excel... which of the lessons would you suggest as the most necessary to study?? Kind thanks. |
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Just couldn't wait to share with you that I completely taught myself the
basics and aced the job interview. As I mentioned, the interview involved a TEST on the BASICS excel so if I wouldn't be cheating anyone out of a job that they deserved because I'd have to have the skills to pass the test. Which I did - with flying colours. I've been offered the job... it's secretarial work. I don't *need* to know how to make pivot tables. There's a difference between having moral standards and sticking your head up your backside. "Don Guillett" wrote: Do you really think it fair to yourself or your employer to apply for a job you are unqualified for. -- Don Guillett Microsoft MVP Excel SalesAid Software "ziploc_chik" wrote in message ... I've got a job interview for an office administration position in a week's time. I've said that I'm familiar with all Microsoft Office applications which is a bit of an exaggeration as I have never really used Excel that much. I have been using the MSN tutorials online and I'm finding them very user-friendly, and easy to follow. However, there are almost forty different lessons and I won't have time to do them all. During my interview I have been told I will be sitting a 20 minute test on Excel... which of the lessons would you suggest as the most necessary to study?? Kind thanks. |
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Congratulations!
Keep visiting these newsgroups. That will help you to become a "real" expert. Some of the MVPs became experts in very little time. It was just that their mind was open to it, they were in a good condition an they probably worked hard. Copy that! -- Kind regards, Niek Otten Microsoft MVP - Excel "ziploc_chik" wrote in message ... | Just couldn't wait to share with you that I completely taught myself the | basics and aced the job interview. As I mentioned, the interview involved a | TEST on the BASICS excel so if I wouldn't be cheating anyone out of a job | that they deserved because I'd have to have the skills to pass the test. | Which I did - with flying colours. | | I've been offered the job... it's secretarial work. I don't *need* to know | how to make pivot tables. There's a difference between having moral | standards and sticking your head up your backside. | | "Don Guillett" wrote: | | Do you really think it fair to yourself or your employer to apply for a job | you are unqualified for. | | -- | Don Guillett | Microsoft MVP Excel | SalesAid Software | | "ziploc_chik" wrote in message | ... | I've got a job interview for an office administration position in a week's | time. I've said that I'm familiar with all Microsoft Office applications | which is a bit of an exaggeration as I have never really used Excel that | much. | | I have been using the MSN tutorials online and I'm finding them very | user-friendly, and easy to follow. However, there are almost forty | different | lessons and I won't have time to do them all. During my interview I have | been told I will be sitting a 20 minute test on Excel... which of the | lessons | would you suggest as the most necessary to study?? | | Kind thanks. | | |
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<which is a bit of an exaggeration
Some would call that a lie. I think *that* is an exaggeration. There will be a 20 minutes test. If that test is any good, it will show the poster's capabilities; you fail or pass. If it's not a good test, it might reject capable people, which is unfair. I've seen no concern over that here. I think it will be difficult to learn enough about Excel in a week, but let's be honest; in many companies you're considered an expert if you know 10% of Excel's features. Anyway, if this poster works hard and passes a test, so is capable of doing what the company requires, what's wrong with that? -- Kind regards, Niek Otten Microsoft MVP - Excel "ziploc_chik" wrote in message ... | I've got a job interview for an office administration position in a week's | time. I've said that I'm familiar with all Microsoft Office applications | which is a bit of an exaggeration as I have never really used Excel that much. | | I have been using the MSN tutorials online and I'm finding them very | user-friendly, and easy to follow. However, there are almost forty different | lessons and I won't have time to do them all. During my interview I have | been told I will be sitting a 20 minute test on Excel... which of the lessons | would you suggest as the most necessary to study?? | | Kind thanks. |
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