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Default A link between two workbooks doesn't keep the value, shows #value!

I have a cell linked to another one in a second workbook. It doesn't show the
value from the origin unless open. Instead it shows #value! error. When I
open the origin then it shows the value again. If I close the origin the link
keeps the value while the destination is open. When closing and then opening
the destination it shows the #value! error again.

It doesn't happen to every link just to some of them

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Same problem.
Formulas based on cells from other workbooks, doesn’t work unless source
file is opened. I don’t know how to make Excel 2007 to read values of cells
from other excel filles without reopen it (that source file).
Any idea?

Is there solution to get values from workbook external links in Excel 2007?


"Gerardo" wrote:

I have a cell linked to another one in a second workbook. It doesn't show the
value from the origin unless open. Instead it shows #value! error. When I
open the origin then it shows the value again. If I close the origin the link
keeps the value while the destination is open. When closing and then opening
the destination it shows the #value! error again.

It doesn't happen to every link just to some of them

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Some links work, don't they?
Are the ones that don't work more complicated formulas (e.g. VLOOKUP)?
Some formulas are just too difficult for Excel to compute without
having the source workbook open.

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Right, pure links works; but if you try to use that link in formulas (my case
sumif) doesn’t work anymore until you open source file too.
I think problems came from translation (composing) path.

"Bill Manville" wrote:

Some links work, don't they?
Are the ones that don't work more complicated formulas (e.g. VLOOKUP)?
Some formulas are just too difficult for Excel to compute without
having the source workbook open.

Bill Manville
MVP - Microsoft Excel, Oxford, England
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As I said, some formulas are just too complicated for Excel to compute
on a closed file.

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There are some functions that won't work when the sending workbook is closed:
=indirect(), =sumif(), =countif() are a few.

You could replace the =sumif() formula with the equivalent =sumproduct()

=sumif(a:a,"x",b:b)
could be replaced with
=sumproduct(--(a:a="x"),(b:b))

And because you're working in xl2007, you can use the whole column.

.....

Adjust the ranges to match--but you can't use whole columns (except in xl2007).

=sumproduct() likes to work with numbers. The -- stuff changes trues and falses
to 1's and 0's.

Bob Phillips explains =sumproduct() in much more detail he
http://www.xldynamic.com/source/xld.SUMPRODUCT.html

And J.E. McGimpsey has some notes at:
http://mcgimpsey.com/excel/formulae/doubleneg.html

Liviu Dinu wrote:

Right, pure links works; but if you try to use that link in formulas (my case
sumif) doesn’t work anymore until you open source file too.
I think problems came from translation (composing) path.

"Bill Manville" wrote:

Some links work, don't they?
Are the ones that don't work more complicated formulas (e.g. VLOOKUP)?
Some formulas are just too difficult for Excel to compute without
having the source workbook open.

Bill Manville
MVP - Microsoft Excel, Oxford, England
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"Dave Peterson" wrote:

There are some functions that won't work when the sending workbook is closed:
=indirect(), =sumif(), =countif() are a few.

You could replace the =sumif() formula with the equivalent =sumproduct()

=sumif(a:a,"x",b:b)
could be replaced with
=sumproduct(--(a:a="x"),(b:b))

And because you're working in xl2007, you can use the whole column.

.....

Adjust the ranges to match--but you can't use whole columns (except in xl2007).

=sumproduct() likes to work with numbers. The -- stuff changes trues and falses
to 1's and 0's.

Bob Phillips explains =sumproduct() in much more detail he
http://www.xldynamic.com/source/xld.SUMPRODUCT.html

And J.E. McGimpsey has some notes at:
http://mcgimpsey.com/excel/formulae/doubleneg.html

Liviu Dinu wrote:

Right, pure links works; but if you try to use that link in formulas (my case
sumif) doesn’t work anymore until you open source file too.
I think problems came from translation (composing) path.

"Bill Manville" wrote:

Some links work, don't they?
Are the ones that don't work more complicated formulas (e.g. VLOOKUP)?
Some formulas are just too difficult for Excel to compute without
having the source workbook open.

Bill Manville
MVP - Microsoft Excel, Oxford, England
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I guess my big question here is why did this appear to work in Excel 2003,
but not now in Excel 2007? It used to be that users would elect not to
update the links and then in the spreadsheet they received via e-mail, it
would have the data still contained within the spreadsheet--though it was
stale, at least it was there.

Now in Outlook 2007, it appears as if the data is no longer available unless
it can update the links OR unless I save the file locally, open excel by
itself, turn calculation of formulas to manual, then open the spreadsheet
from within Excel 2007. Any thoughts on this and how to get it to function
as it did in Excel 2003?

Much appreciated!
Lance
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Default A link between two workbooks doesn't keep the value, shows #va

The =sumif() formula doesn't work in any version of excel if the sending
workbook is closed.

But the way the cells with links are displayed if the links aren't updated did
change (I think with xl2k).

Jim Rech posted a registry tweak:
http://groups.google.com/groups?thre...GP11.phx .gbl

You'll have to change the version number in Jim's post.

Lance wrote:

I guess my big question here is why did this appear to work in Excel 2003,
but not now in Excel 2007? It used to be that users would elect not to
update the links and then in the spreadsheet they received via e-mail, it
would have the data still contained within the spreadsheet--though it was
stale, at least it was there.

Now in Outlook 2007, it appears as if the data is no longer available unless
it can update the links OR unless I save the file locally, open excel by
itself, turn calculation of formulas to manual, then open the spreadsheet
from within Excel 2007. Any thoughts on this and how to get it to function
as it did in Excel 2003?

Much appreciated!
Lance


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Thanks for the information, but I do question it a little in that if I open
the same spreadsheet in Excel 2003, all of the cells with =sumif() formulas
in them contain valid data results as I would expect (even though I don't
have access to the source spreadsheet in the formulas link). In 2007
however, I can only get those results if automatic calculation is turned off.

"Dave Peterson" wrote:

The =sumif() formula doesn't work in any version of excel if the sending
workbook is closed.

But the way the cells with links are displayed if the links aren't updated did
change (I think with xl2k).

Jim Rech posted a registry tweak:
http://groups.google.com/groups?thre...GP11.phx .gbl

You'll have to change the version number in Jim's post.

Lance wrote:

I guess my big question here is why did this appear to work in Excel 2003,
but not now in Excel 2007? It used to be that users would elect not to
update the links and then in the spreadsheet they received via e-mail, it
would have the data still contained within the spreadsheet--though it was
stale, at least it was there.

Now in Outlook 2007, it appears as if the data is no longer available unless
it can update the links OR unless I save the file locally, open excel by
itself, turn calculation of formulas to manual, then open the spreadsheet
from within Excel 2007. Any thoughts on this and how to get it to function
as it did in Excel 2003?

Much appreciated!
Lance


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