Is there any other way of going about getting the results that the lookup
function obtains without the list havng to be in ascending order? I have a
pretty large database of company's names and when I make a new record and
input the country I want the values for postal code, subsequent postal cost,
best time to call, hour difference, etc, to all be pre-populated based on
previuos records for that country. But my excel sheet will be subject to new
ordering a lot, so Lookup will not work. I've found some formulas for IF but
I have more than 7 conditions. Thank you to anyone who may be able to help
me.

Please give further details. It is possible to use VLOOKUP and HLOOKUP
with the data not sorted - set the 4th parameter to FALSE or 0 to look
for an exact match.

Hope this helps.

Pete

On Jul 29, 11:49*am, Jessica Donadio
wrote:
Is there any other way of going about getting the results that the lookup
function obtains without the list havng to be in ascending order? *I have a
pretty large database of company's names and when I make a new record and *
input the country I want the values for postal code, subsequent postal cost,
best time to call, hour difference, etc, to all be pre-populated based on
previuos records for that country. *But my excel sheet will be subject to new
ordering a lot, so Lookup will not work. *I've found some formulas for IF but
I have more than 7 conditions. *Thank you to anyone who may be able to help
me. * * *

thank you so much for your quick response! Your post help me clear up my
uncertainty with the previous posts I read in regards to VLookup, I didn't
understand the 3rd parameter indicated the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, column, and that
the table was an area you could select. Adding the logic test was just what
I needed to do.

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:49:02 -0700, Jessica Donadio
wrote:

Is there any other way of going about getting the results that the lookup
function obtains without the list havng to be in ascending order? I have a
pretty large database of company's names and when I make a new record and
input the country I want the values for postal code, subsequent postal cost,
best time to call, hour difference, etc, to all be pre-populated based on
previuos records for that country. But my excel sheet will be subject to new
ordering a lot, so Lookup will not work. I've found some formulas for IF but
I have more than 7 conditions. Thank you to anyone who may be able to help
me.

It seems as if you could use an exact match.

Depending on how your data is set up, you could probably use VLOOKUP or HLOOKUP
with FALSE entered for the optional Range_lookup argument. This would require
an exact match.

If that does not work, post back with more information, as the use of INDEX and
MATCH (with the Exact parameter within the MATCH function) should be adaptable
to your data.
--ron

Glad to be of help - thanks for feeding back.

Pete

On Jul 29, 12:25*pm, Jessica Donadio
wrote:
thank you so much for your quick response! *Your post help me clear up my
uncertainty with the previous posts I read in regards to VLookup, I didn't
understand the 3rd parameter indicated the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, column, and that
the table was an area you could select. *Adding the logic test was just what
I needed to do. *

Well the only snag is that when I paste the values down the column it
progressively causes the top rows not to be included in the range of data.
However, I still want to retain the relative cell value of the first parameter

As an example I have countries listed in column H and then the corresponding
postal zones in column I (whose values are either 1,2,3, or Italy). Vlookup
works, but if I start a new record 500 rows down, the cell reference for the
top of the range will move likewise, so that it may not find the country
value if there is only one located towards the top of the list. Is there a
way to incorporate both absolute and relative cell referencing in the same
function?

Or, with index and match, how would I go about it to simply return the
respective postal zones for each country? Thanks again!

"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:49:02 -0700, Jessica Donadio
wrote:

Is there any other way of going about getting the results that the lookup
function obtains without the list havng to be in ascending order? I have a
pretty large database of company's names and when I make a new record and
input the country I want the values for postal code, subsequent postal cost,
best time to call, hour difference, etc, to all be pre-populated based on
previuos records for that country. But my excel sheet will be subject to new
ordering a lot, so Lookup will not work. I've found some formulas for IF but
I have more than 7 conditions. Thank you to anyone who may be able to help
me.

It seems as if you could use an exact match.

Depending on how your data is set up, you could probably use VLOOKUP or HLOOKUP
with FALSE entered for the optional Range_lookup argument. This would require
an exact match.

If that does not work, post back with more information, as the use of INDEX and
MATCH (with the Exact parameter within the MATCH function) should be adaptable
to your data.
--ron

Wow, forget that, right after I typed that I saw below my thread what the $
sign means before the cell. All is good.

I would still be curious about how this could be achieved through
index/match and what would be the advantages to doing so, but otherwise,
thank you all!

"Jessica Donadio" wrote:

Well the only snag is that when I paste the values down the column it
progressively causes the top rows not to be included in the range of data.
However, I still want to retain the relative cell value of the first parameter

As an example I have countries listed in column H and then the corresponding
postal zones in column I (whose values are either 1,2,3, or Italy). Vlookup
works, but if I start a new record 500 rows down, the cell reference for the
top of the range will move likewise, so that it may not find the country
value if there is only one located towards the top of the list. Is there a
way to incorporate both absolute and relative cell referencing in the same
function?

Or, with index and match, how would I go about it to simply return the
respective postal zones for each country? Thanks again!

Glad you got it sorted in the end. You can used named ranges to avoid
the problems of absolute addresses.

The INDEX/MATCH approach would be something like this:

=INDEX(return_column,MATCH(lookup,sought_column,0) )

to replace:

=VLOOKUP(lookup,table,column,0)

If you are using VLOOKUP the sought item has to be in the left-most
column of the table, but with INDEX/MATCH the sought_column can be to
the right of the return_column.

Hope this helps.

Pete

On Jul 29, 2:36*pm, Jessica Donadio
wrote:
Wow, forget that, right after I typed that I saw below my thread what the $
sign means before the cell. *All is good.

I would still be curious about how this could be achieved through
index/match and what would be the advantages to doing so, but otherwise,
thank you all!



"Jessica Donadio" wrote:
Well the only snag is that when I paste the values down the column it
progressively causes the top rows not to be included in the range of data. *
However, I still want to retain the relative cell value of the first parameter

As an example I have countries listed in column H and then the corresponding
postal zones in column I (whose values are either 1,2,3, or Italy). *Vlookup
works, but if I start a new record 500 rows down, the cell reference for the
top of the range will move likewise, so that it may not find the country
value if there is only one located towards the top of the list. *Is there a
way to incorporate both absolute and relative cell referencing in the same
function?

Or, with index and match, how would I go about it to simply return the
respective postal zones for each country? *Thanks again!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:36:00 -0700, Jessica Donadio
wrote:

Wow, forget that, right after I typed that I saw below my thread what the $
sign means before the cell. All is good.

I would still be curious about how this could be achieved through
index/match and what would be the advantages to doing so, but otherwise,
thank you all!

The advantage to index/match is that the lookup value does not need to be to
the left of, or above the returned value. Whereas with index/match, the lookup
value location is irrelevant.
--ron

So if I have cities filling column E (to E1236) and their respective
countries in column H (to H1236) How do I write the function so that in a
new record the country value automatically matches the city I input? I've
tried this, but no dice:

=INDEX(H:H,MATCH(H10,E:E,0))

"Pete_UK" wrote:

Glad you got it sorted in the end. You can used named ranges to avoid
the problems of absolute addresses.

The INDEX/MATCH approach would be something like this:

=INDEX(return_column,MATCH(lookup,sought_column,0) )

to replace:

=VLOOKUP(lookup,table,column,0)

If you are using VLOOKUP the sought item has to be in the left-most
column of the table, but with INDEX/MATCH the sought_column can be to
the right of the return_column.

Hope this helps.

Pete

On Jul 29, 2:36 pm, Jessica Donadio
wrote:
Wow, forget that, right after I typed that I saw below my thread what the $
sign means before the cell. All is good.

I would still be curious about how this could be achieved through
index/match and what would be the advantages to doing so, but otherwise,
thank you all!



"Jessica Donadio" wrote:
Well the only snag is that when I paste the values down the column it
progressively causes the top rows not to be included in the range of data.
However, I still want to retain the relative cell value of the first parameter

As an example I have countries listed in column H and then the corresponding
postal zones in column I (whose values are either 1,2,3, or Italy). Vlookup
works, but if I start a new record 500 rows down, the cell reference for the
top of the range will move likewise, so that it may not find the country
value if there is only one located towards the top of the list. Is there a
way to incorporate both absolute and relative cell referencing in the same
function?

Or, with index and match, how would I go about it to simply return the
respective postal zones for each country? Thanks again!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, with this formula you are trying to match H10 with column E, and
if it finds a match then get the corresponding entry from column H.
Are you sure you are putting the new entry into H10? Wouldn't it
belong in E10?

I'm not really sure what you are trying to do - could you elaborate a
bit further?

Pete

On Aug 1, 6:53*pm, Jessica Donadio
wrote:
So if I have cities filling column E (to E1236) and their respective
countries in column H (to H1236) How do I write the function so that *in a
new record the country value automatically matches the city I input? *I've
tried this, but no dice:

=INDEX(H:H,MATCH(H10,E:E,0))

Well. I had succeeded with Vlookup, but then realized when I add a new
record and it is reordered, the values will not be shown because the data is
no longer above the record. So I was trying to add a new record near the top
of the table (Row 10) to verify that my formula will work.

It's essentially like this:

E H
Citty Country

Los Angeles USA
New York USA
? ?
Milan Italy
Barcelona Spain

If I am to input "Milan" into E?, I want H? to be pre-populated. But I'm a
bit unclear with this

=INDEX(return_column,MATCH(lookup,sought_column,0) ) so...

=Index(H:H,MATCH(E?,E:E,0)) does not seem to be correct. Thank you for all
your help, this will really help me out at work, but I don't always have a
lot of time to dedicate to experiment.

Jessica

"Jessica Donadio" wrote:

So if I have cities filling column E (to E1236) and their respective
countries in column H (to H1236) How do I write the function so that in a
new record the country value automatically matches the city I input? I've
tried this, but no dice:

=INDEX(H:H,MATCH(H10,E:E,0))

If I am to input "Milan" into E?, I want H? to be pre-populated. But I'm a
bit unclear with this

=INDEX(return_column,MATCH(lookup,sought_column,0) ) so...

=Index(H:H,MATCH(E?,E:E,0)) does not seem to be correct. Thank you for all
your help, this will really help me out at work, but I don't always have a
lot of time to dedicate to experiment.



Well, if I'm reading you right and this formula goes in the cells in
H, it won't work easily since that is potentially circular or at least
messy. You'd have to have all your locations actually typed into the
first, say, 100 rows, then subsequent rows could access those first
100 with whatever lookup will work. And if you come up with a new city
sometime, no lookup will work at all since it is the first time you
typed it in, there's nothing to look up. You might want to have the
city/country list somewhere else to reference. Perhaps put the
location data far off to the right in BA:BB. Then your original idea
of a VLOOKUP would work.

But regardless, on your INDEX/MATCH question, change the INDEX range
to the whole range and put in a column reference. So this checks
column E, then returns an answer from column H, which is the 4th
column of the range:
=INDEX(E:H,MATCH(E10,E:E,0),4)

Precisely what I was looking for. Thank you so much! I am extremely happy
now; No more repetitive data entry!

But regardless, on your INDEX/MATCH question, change the INDEX range
to the whole range and put in a column reference. So this checks
column E, then returns an answer from column H, which is the 4th
column of the range:
=INDEX(E:H,MATCH(E10,E:E,0),4)

Actually, I spoke a little too soon. =INDEX(E:H,MATCH(E10,E:E,0),4)
returns the correct answer if it is already listed above, but not if it is
below...How can I get it to return an answer whether it's listed above or
below? Thank you again

"Spiky" wrote:

If I am to input "Milan" into E?, I want H? to be pre-populated. But I'm a
bit unclear with this

=INDEX(return_column,MATCH(lookup,sought_column,0) ) so...

=Index(H:H,MATCH(E?,E:E,0)) does not seem to be correct. Thank you for all
your help, this will really help me out at work, but I don't always have a
lot of time to dedicate to experiment.



Well, if I'm reading you right and this formula goes in the cells in
H, it won't work easily since that is potentially circular or at least
messy. You'd have to have all your locations actually typed into the
first, say, 100 rows, then subsequent rows could access those first
100 with whatever lookup will work. And if you come up with a new city
sometime, no lookup will work at all since it is the first time you
typed it in, there's nothing to look up. You might want to have the
city/country list somewhere else to reference. Perhaps put the
location data far off to the right in BA:BB. Then your original idea
of a VLOOKUP would work.

But regardless, on your INDEX/MATCH question, change the INDEX range
to the whole range and put in a column reference. So this checks
column E, then returns an answer from column H, which is the 4th
column of the range:
=INDEX(E:H,MATCH(E10,E:E,0),4)