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Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple
excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the following. 1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel upgrade? 2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files. I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the present. thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply.. |
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I really have no idea what feedback you're looking for here?
-- Brevity is the soul of wit. "4pinoy" wrote: Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the following. 1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel upgrade? 2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files. I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the present. thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply.. |
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Any ms link to support the suggestive formula structuring. good for future
excel.. "Dave F" wrote: I really have no idea what feedback you're looking for here? -- Brevity is the soul of wit. "4pinoy" wrote: Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the following. 1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel upgrade? 2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files. I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the present. thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply.. |
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As an extension...Since the microsoft forum have duly selected the technical
expertise of our MVP's...I am looking forward that microsoft excel will provide these formula structuring (function usage) in the microsoft Help or support Files...further to allowing our dear users like me to use such in a recorded excel files.... "4pinoy" wrote: Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the following. 1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel upgrade? 2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files. I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the present. thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply.. |
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It is a forum provided by MS for MS products, apart from offensive content,
MS then let it roll, and make no commitments to what is done or said here. MVPs are not MS people, MS give the award as a recognition of their contribution to helping communities, but again with no commitment on either party other than behaving appropriately. There are only 2 guarantees in life, and you know them, MS products sure aren't one of them. If you are looking for guarantees that anything you do, anything you install, etc. will work in future MS products, your dreaming IMO. Either ride the risk, or use the LCD of functionality. -- HTH Bob Phillips (replace xxxx in the email address with gmail if mailing direct) "4pinoy" wrote in message ... Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the following. 1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel upgrade? 2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files. I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the present. thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply.. |
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The only thing I would add is that for so long as there are questions to be
asked and a forum in which to ask them there will be people here to give you a hand... I have every faith that things will break and that things will get fixed. Gee Bob... I thought you were one of the guarantees in life? I'm shattered! <g -- HTH... Jim Thomlinson "Bob Phillips" wrote: It is a forum provided by MS for MS products, apart from offensive content, MS then let it roll, and make no commitments to what is done or said here. MVPs are not MS people, MS give the award as a recognition of their contribution to helping communities, but again with no commitment on either party other than behaving appropriately. There are only 2 guarantees in life, and you know them, MS products sure aren't one of them. If you are looking for guarantees that anything you do, anything you install, etc. will work in future MS products, your dreaming IMO. Either ride the risk, or use the LCD of functionality. -- HTH Bob Phillips (replace xxxx in the email address with gmail if mailing direct) "4pinoy" wrote in message ... Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the following. 1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel upgrade? 2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files. I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the present. thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply.. |
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On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:01:03 -0800, 4pinoy
wrote: Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the following. 1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel upgrade? NO 2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files. I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the present. thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply.. It seems you completely misunderstand the nature of the forum. Although MS provides the server space, this forum is about users helping users. The "guarantees" are worth what you pay for them; and I'm sure some will offer you double-your-money-back if you are not satisfied. --ron |
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I am not questioning about the whole products...I am pertaining only on the
formula structuring of excel - no more no less. Since I use excel, I hade never experienced a fault on formula structuing huided by the help files...I consider the help files as a true guarantee on a cautiously made spreadsheet.. Out from the help files,,,I cannot do it ay all. Also see : https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvptechres I've scanned thru the above site and found out the certifications/licensing/opportunities/rights/entitlements for MVP directly. Hence I suppose that all of checked suggestions are responsive and linked with microsoft excel formula structuring. You can also see from other page where the forum's page with rules of conduct and other matters about microsoft role on this forum together with MVP's who can control the forum in checking and unchecking.... I hope that everything is linked together, same with the basics of excel formula structuring... My question is still unanswered, if 3rd party is not a part, then why check it ? "Ron Rosenfeld" wrote: On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:01:03 -0800, 4pinoy wrote: Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the following. 1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel upgrade? NO 2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files. I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the present. thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply.. It seems you completely misunderstand the nature of the forum. Although MS provides the server space, this forum is about users helping users. The "guarantees" are worth what you pay for them; and I'm sure some will offer you double-your-money-back if you are not satisfied. --ron |
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The check marks on this site are not added by the MVP's. They are added by
the person asking the question. If they found the answer provided to be helpful then they can Select "Yes" at the bottom where it asks "Was this post helpful to you?". That adds the checkmark which is then attributed to the person who supplied the answer. Based on the number of helpful posts given a medal (gold, silver or bronze) may show up beside their name... -- HTH... Jim Thomlinson "4pinoy" wrote: I am not questioning about the whole products...I am pertaining only on the formula structuring of excel - no more no less. Since I use excel, I hade never experienced a fault on formula structuing huided by the help files...I consider the help files as a true guarantee on a cautiously made spreadsheet.. Out from the help files,,,I cannot do it ay all. Also see : https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvptechres I've scanned thru the above site and found out the certifications/licensing/opportunities/rights/entitlements for MVP directly. Hence I suppose that all of checked suggestions are responsive and linked with microsoft excel formula structuring. You can also see from other page where the forum's page with rules of conduct and other matters about microsoft role on this forum together with MVP's who can control the forum in checking and unchecking.... I hope that everything is linked together, same with the basics of excel formula structuring... My question is still unanswered, if 3rd party is not a part, then why check it ? "Ron Rosenfeld" wrote: On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:01:03 -0800, 4pinoy wrote: Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the following. 1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel upgrade? NO 2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files. I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the present. thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply.. It seems you completely misunderstand the nature of the forum. Although MS provides the server space, this forum is about users helping users. The "guarantees" are worth what you pay for them; and I'm sure some will offer you double-your-money-back if you are not satisfied. --ron |
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from microsoft page:
"Special consideration for question posts In addition to the "helpful" and "not helpful" ratings, when someone adds a post to a question you asked, you can rate this post as "the answer" to your question or "not the answer" to your question. By rating a post as €œthe answer€, you help others find the answer more quickly (because the Ask a Question wizard searches answered questions), you give the person who posted the answer credit for their contribution, and you help increase the quality of answers in the discussion group. When you rate a post as the answer (click Yes next to Did this post answer the question?) the post is marked as an €œanswer€, the Questions answered number for the person who authored the post increases by one in their profile information, and the thread is marked as an €œanswered question.€ When you rate a post as not the answer (click No next to Did this post answer the question?), the post is not marked as an answer, the thread remains a Question without answer thread (if there are no other posts marked as an answer), and the author does not receive credit for answering the question. Notes MVPs can also mark a reply post in a question thread as an answer (or not). More than one post in a question thread can be marked as an answer to the original question. """??? "Jim Thomlinson" wrote: The check marks on this site are not added by the MVP's. They are added by the person asking the question. If they found the answer provided to be helpful then they can Select "Yes" at the bottom where it asks "Was this post helpful to you?". That adds the checkmark which is then attributed to the person who supplied the answer. Based on the number of helpful posts given a medal (gold, silver or bronze) may show up beside their name... -- HTH... Jim Thomlinson "4pinoy" wrote: I am not questioning about the whole products...I am pertaining only on the formula structuring of excel - no more no less. Since I use excel, I hade never experienced a fault on formula structuing huided by the help files...I consider the help files as a true guarantee on a cautiously made spreadsheet.. Out from the help files,,,I cannot do it ay all. Also see : https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvptechres I've scanned thru the above site and found out the certifications/licensing/opportunities/rights/entitlements for MVP directly. Hence I suppose that all of checked suggestions are responsive and linked with microsoft excel formula structuring. You can also see from other page where the forum's page with rules of conduct and other matters about microsoft role on this forum together with MVP's who can control the forum in checking and unchecking.... I hope that everything is linked together, same with the basics of excel formula structuring... My question is still unanswered, if 3rd party is not a part, then why check it ? "Ron Rosenfeld" wrote: On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:01:03 -0800, 4pinoy wrote: Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the following. 1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel upgrade? NO 2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files. I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the present. thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply.. It seems you completely misunderstand the nature of the forum. Although MS provides the server space, this forum is about users helping users. The "guarantees" are worth what you pay for them; and I'm sure some will offer you double-your-money-back if you are not satisfied. --ron |
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Lets hope Jim that this thread will close with a checked mark....I will leave
it for the MVP's because I really dont know which one from above is the correct one. "MVPs can also mark a reply post in a question thread as an answer"... more power, thanks to all... "Jim Thomlinson" wrote: The check marks on this site are not added by the MVP's. They are added by the person asking the question. If they found the answer provided to be helpful then they can Select "Yes" at the bottom where it asks "Was this post helpful to you?". That adds the checkmark which is then attributed to the person who supplied the answer. Based on the number of helpful posts given a medal (gold, silver or bronze) may show up beside their name... -- HTH... Jim Thomlinson "4pinoy" wrote: I am not questioning about the whole products...I am pertaining only on the formula structuring of excel - no more no less. Since I use excel, I hade never experienced a fault on formula structuing huided by the help files...I consider the help files as a true guarantee on a cautiously made spreadsheet.. Out from the help files,,,I cannot do it ay all. Also see : https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvptechres I've scanned thru the above site and found out the certifications/licensing/opportunities/rights/entitlements for MVP directly. Hence I suppose that all of checked suggestions are responsive and linked with microsoft excel formula structuring. You can also see from other page where the forum's page with rules of conduct and other matters about microsoft role on this forum together with MVP's who can control the forum in checking and unchecking.... I hope that everything is linked together, same with the basics of excel formula structuring... My question is still unanswered, if 3rd party is not a part, then why check it ? "Ron Rosenfeld" wrote: On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:01:03 -0800, 4pinoy wrote: Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the following. 1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel upgrade? NO 2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files. I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the present. thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply.. It seems you completely misunderstand the nature of the forum. Although MS provides the server space, this forum is about users helping users. The "guarantees" are worth what you pay for them; and I'm sure some will offer you double-your-money-back if you are not satisfied. --ron |
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I don't know of too many MVP's using the CDO interface so don't think they are
doing much checking of replies. Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:39:02 -0800, 4pinoy wrote: Lets hope Jim that this thread will close with a checked mark....I will leave it for the MVP's because I really dont know which one from above is the correct one. "MVPs can also mark a reply post in a question thread as an answer"... more power, thanks to all... "Jim Thomlinson" wrote: The check marks on this site are not added by the MVP's. They are added by the person asking the question. If they found the answer provided to be helpful then they can Select "Yes" at the bottom where it asks "Was this post helpful to you?". That adds the checkmark which is then attributed to the person who supplied the answer. Based on the number of helpful posts given a medal (gold, silver or bronze) may show up beside their name... -- HTH... Jim Thomlinson "4pinoy" wrote: I am not questioning about the whole products...I am pertaining only on the formula structuring of excel - no more no less. Since I use excel, I hade never experienced a fault on formula structuing huided by the help files...I consider the help files as a true guarantee on a cautiously made spreadsheet.. Out from the help files,,,I cannot do it ay all. Also see : https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvptechres I've scanned thru the above site and found out the certifications/licensing/opportunities/rights/entitlements for MVP directly. Hence I suppose that all of checked suggestions are responsive and linked with microsoft excel formula structuring. You can also see from other page where the forum's page with rules of conduct and other matters about microsoft role on this forum together with MVP's who can control the forum in checking and unchecking.... I hope that everything is linked together, same with the basics of excel formula structuring... My question is still unanswered, if 3rd party is not a part, then why check it ? "Ron Rosenfeld" wrote: On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:01:03 -0800, 4pinoy wrote: Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the following. 1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel upgrade? NO 2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files. I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the present. thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply.. It seems you completely misunderstand the nature of the forum. Although MS provides the server space, this forum is about users helping users. The "guarantees" are worth what you pay for them; and I'm sure some will offer you double-your-money-back if you are not satisfied. --ron |
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I am a regular user of this forum and I would like to say something.
When I first started using MS newsgroup(s), I did it through web interface. I made a point to rate the answers so as to show my appreciation. One day, I realize that most experts, MVP's etc. don't use web interface. So, I do what the experts do and I have switched to OE, Google etc. From then on, I have stopped rating the answers as there is no way to do it through OE or Google. I always believe that the poster is free to choose from the various solutions suggested by the gurus. He/she is responsible for the consequence of his/her decision. Anyone who provides an answer is a volunteer with a helping heart. I don't pay anyone any money and therefore I don't demand. Do Excel consultants provide guarantees when clients pay them big money? I am not sure. Outside MS, I constantly find bugs in systems even when I pay for service. About the Excel Help, I have found more mistakes than I want to. I am a fan of SUMPRODUCT which is not truly explained in the Help files. If I only confine myself to the Help files I would have missed out a lot and I mean a lot. Shall we include the SUMPRODUCT paper as part of Excel Help? I always look for quality and I am happy with the advice and guidance I get from this forum. If one expert inadvertently made a typo, someone else would probably catch it. I am not sure what you are *truly* after. Life is full of risks. Off topic - The consumer report says that we shouldn't bother with extended *warranty*; it's a waste of money! I thought I could keep quiet for a few days ...... Epinn "4pinoy" wrote in message ... Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the following. 1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel upgrade? 2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files. I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the present. thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply.. |
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Well said. Encapsulates my views, but more eloquently said.
Bob "Epinn" wrote in message ... I am a regular user of this forum and I would like to say something. When I first started using MS newsgroup(s), I did it through web interface. I made a point to rate the answers so as to show my appreciation. One day, I realize that most experts, MVP's etc. don't use web interface. So, I do what the experts do and I have switched to OE, Google etc. From then on, I have stopped rating the answers as there is no way to do it through OE or Google. I always believe that the poster is free to choose from the various solutions suggested by the gurus. He/she is responsible for the consequence of his/her decision. Anyone who provides an answer is a volunteer with a helping heart. I don't pay anyone any money and therefore I don't demand. Do Excel consultants provide guarantees when clients pay them big money? I am not sure. Outside MS, I constantly find bugs in systems even when I pay for service. About the Excel Help, I have found more mistakes than I want to. I am a fan of SUMPRODUCT which is not truly explained in the Help files. If I only confine myself to the Help files I would have missed out a lot and I mean a lot. Shall we include the SUMPRODUCT paper as part of Excel Help? I always look for quality and I am happy with the advice and guidance I get from this forum. If one expert inadvertently made a typo, someone else would probably catch it. I am not sure what you are *truly* after. Life is full of risks. Off topic - The consumer report says that we shouldn't bother with extended *warranty*; it's a waste of money! I thought I could keep quiet for a few days ...... Epinn |
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Right Don.........and many times it's not as hard to figure out an Excel
answer to an OP's question, as it is to interpret exactly what the Op is looking for from their usually "non-excel terminology". Vaya con Dios, Chuck, CABGx3 "Don Guillett" wrote: I also agree and would like to point out that many times there is no "correct" answer because, as we all know, there are many ways to do the same thing in Excel. All correct. And, since we are all human, we all make mistakes. I sometimes catch others mistakes and they catch mine. This is helpful to all, including you. -- Don Guillett SalesAid Software "Bob Phillips" wrote in message ... Well said. Encapsulates my views, but more eloquently said. Bob "Epinn" wrote in message ... I am a regular user of this forum and I would like to say something. When I first started using MS newsgroup(s), I did it through web interface. I made a point to rate the answers so as to show my appreciation. One day, I realize that most experts, MVP's etc. don't use web interface. So, I do what the experts do and I have switched to OE, Google etc. From then on, I have stopped rating the answers as there is no way to do it through OE or Google. I always believe that the poster is free to choose from the various solutions suggested by the gurus. He/she is responsible for the consequence of his/her decision. Anyone who provides an answer is a volunteer with a helping heart. I don't pay anyone any money and therefore I don't demand. Do Excel consultants provide guarantees when clients pay them big money? I am not sure. Outside MS, I constantly find bugs in systems even when I pay for service. About the Excel Help, I have found more mistakes than I want to. I am a fan of SUMPRODUCT which is not truly explained in the Help files. If I only confine myself to the Help files I would have missed out a lot and I mean a lot. Shall we include the SUMPRODUCT paper as part of Excel Help? I always look for quality and I am happy with the advice and guidance I get from this forum. If one expert inadvertently made a typo, someone else would probably catch it. I am not sure what you are *truly* after. Life is full of risks. Off topic - The consumer report says that we shouldn't bother with extended *warranty*; it's a waste of money! I thought I could keep quiet for a few days ...... Epinn |
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I want to add something.
Only the person asking the question sees the *entire* picture of his/her own needs (well, I am not surprised if that's not the case sometimes). A lot of times, posters answer questions based on a small piece of the puzzle. Therefore, they shouldn't be responsible for the outcome of anyone's project. The project members are responsible for *testing* the solutions suggested *in depth*. Let's say someone gave you a wrong answer and your project fell apart and you got fired (God forbid). In what way do you expect your *guarantee* translate to? Sue someone for your loss? About compatibility with future upgrade, I want to quote what the mutual fund companies always say, "Past performance does not guarantee future results." Maybe I/we should include this disclaimer when I/we answer posts. <g Although I have a lot of respect for most MVP's, I agree with Bob's view. My understanding is that the award is given based on *past* performance i.e. the performance during the previous year. It is questionable if the MVP will be re-awarded after the current year. There are a few factors that MS considers. If an MVP is not re-awarded as a result of lack of contribution due to time constraint, I don't think his/her expertise/opinion loses value just because MS doesn't *label* him/her as MVP. Also, I have seen MVP's spitting abusive comments in another forum. So, whats in a name? All in all, we are responsible for our own action. In closing, I want to quote Shakespeare €¦€¦ "What's in a name? That which we call a rose By any other word would smell as sweet." --From Romeo and Juliet (II, ii, 1-2) << Epinn "4pinoy" wrote in message ... Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the following. 1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel upgrade? 2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files. I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the present. thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply.. |
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"Epinn" wrote: I want to add something. Only the person asking the question sees the *entire* picture of his/her own needs (well, I am not surprised if that's not the case sometimes). A lot of times, posters answer questions based on a small piece of the puzzle. Therefore, they shouldn't be responsible for the outcome of anyone's project. The project members are responsible for *testing* the solutions suggested *in depth*. Let's say someone gave you a wrong answer and your project fell apart and you got fired (God forbid). In what way do you expect your *guarantee* translate to? Sue someone for your loss? About compatibility with future upgrade, I want to quote what the mutual fund companies always say, "Past performance does not guarantee future results." Maybe I/we should include this disclaimer when I/we answer posts. <g Although I have a lot of respect for most MVP's, I agree with Bob's view. My understanding is that the award is given based on *past* performance i.e. the performance during the previous year. It is questionable if the MVP will be re-awarded after the current year. There are a few factors that MS considers. If an MVP is not re-awarded as a result of lack of contribution due to time constraint, I don't think his/her expertise/opinion loses value just because MS doesn't *label* him/her as MVP. Also, I have seen MVP's spitting abusive comments in another forum. So, whats in a name? All in all, we are responsible for our own action. In closing, I want to quote Shakespeare €¦€¦ "What's in a name? That which we call a rose By any other word would smell as sweet." --From Romeo and Juliet (II, ii, 1-2) << Epinn "4pinoy" wrote in message ... Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the following. 1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel upgrade? 2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files. I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the present. thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply.. |
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Please note that
TryHarder driller 4pinoy art romelsb p are the same person. Please check out post #9 by Bob http://groups.google.ca/group/micros...a3b1a3 26bdfc Epinn "Ken Johnson" wrote in message oups.com... p wrote: zzzzzzzz? Handy for forcing a row to the bottom of a sorted list. Ken Johnson |
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Epinn,
Best to just ignore them. Responding perpetuates the problem. Bob "Epinn" wrote in message ... Please note that TryHarder driller 4pinoy art romelsb p are the same person. Please check out post #9 by Bob http://groups.google.ca/group/micros....functions/bro wse_frm/thread/d93736b818eb1bb9/4cfaa3b1a326bdfc?lnk=st&q=&rnum=1&hl=en#4cfa a3b1a326bdfc Epinn "Ken Johnson" wrote in message oups.com... p wrote: zzzzzzzz? Handy for forcing a row to the bottom of a sorted list. Ken Johnson |
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Excuse me....literally - please don't mess with this thread for the MVP and
Guru's....and try not to embellish this thread for any advertising tricks. "Epinn" wrote: Please note that TryHarder driller 4pinoy art romelsb p are the same person. Please check out post #9 by Bob http://groups.google.ca/group/micros...a3b1a3 26bdfc Epinn "Ken Johnson" wrote in message oups.com... p wrote: zzzzzzzz? Handy for forcing a row to the bottom of a sorted list. Ken Johnson |
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