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Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple
excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd
party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the
following.
1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building
thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel
upgrade?
2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by
the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum
guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all
the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion
even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished
precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I
may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula
structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files.
I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the
present.
thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply..

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I really have no idea what feedback you're looking for here?
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"4pinoy" wrote:

Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple
excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd
party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the
following.
1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building
thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel
upgrade?
2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by
the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum
guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all
the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion
even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished
precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I
may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula
structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files.
I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the
present.
thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply..

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Any ms link to support the suggestive formula structuring. good for future
excel..

"Dave F" wrote:

I really have no idea what feedback you're looking for here?
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Brevity is the soul of wit.


"4pinoy" wrote:

Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple
excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd
party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the
following.
1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building
thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel
upgrade?
2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by
the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum
guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all
the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion
even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished
precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I
may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula
structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files.
I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the
present.
thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply..

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As an extension...Since the microsoft forum have duly selected the technical
expertise of our MVP's...I am looking forward that microsoft excel will
provide these formula structuring (function usage) in the microsoft Help or
support Files...further to allowing our dear users like me to use such in a
recorded excel files....

"4pinoy" wrote:

Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple
excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd
party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the
following.
1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building
thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel
upgrade?
2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by
the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum
guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all
the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion
even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished
precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I
may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula
structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files.
I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the
present.
thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply..

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Sure

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"4pinoy" wrote in message
...
As an extension...Since the microsoft forum have duly selected the
technical
expertise of our MVP's...I am looking forward that microsoft excel will
provide these formula structuring (function usage) in the microsoft Help
or
support Files...further to allowing our dear users like me to use such in
a
recorded excel files....

"4pinoy" wrote:

Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple
excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd
party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering
the
following.
1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula
building
thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel
upgrade?
2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered
by
the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft
forum
guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to
all
the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any
suggestion
even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or
distinguished
precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that
I
may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula
structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files.
I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on
the
present.
thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply..





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ms guy? pls. when?

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Sure

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"4pinoy" wrote in message
...
As an extension...Since the microsoft forum have duly selected the
technical
expertise of our MVP's...I am looking forward that microsoft excel will
provide these formula structuring (function usage) in the microsoft Help
or
support Files...further to allowing our dear users like me to use such in
a
recorded excel files....

"4pinoy" wrote:

Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple
excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd
party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering
the
following.
1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula
building
thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel
upgrade?
2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered
by
the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft
forum
guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to
all
the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any
suggestion
even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or
distinguished
precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that
I
may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula
structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files.
I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on
the
present.
thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply..




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It is a forum provided by MS for MS products, apart from offensive content,
MS then let it roll, and make no commitments to what is done or said here.

MVPs are not MS people, MS give the award as a recognition of their
contribution to helping communities, but again with no commitment on either
party other than behaving appropriately.

There are only 2 guarantees in life, and you know them, MS products sure
aren't one of them.

If you are looking for guarantees that anything you do, anything you
install, etc. will work in future MS products, your dreaming IMO. Either
ride the risk, or use the LCD of functionality.

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HTH

Bob Phillips

(replace xxxx in the email address with gmail if mailing direct)

"4pinoy" wrote in message
...
Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple
excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd
party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering

the
following.
1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula

building
thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel
upgrade?
2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by
the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum
guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to

all
the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any

suggestion
even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or

distinguished
precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that

I
may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula
structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files.
I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on

the
present.
thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply..



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On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:01:03 -0800, 4pinoy
wrote:

Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple
excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd
party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the
following.
1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building
thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel
upgrade?



NO


2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by
the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum
guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all
the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion
even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished
precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I
may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula
structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files.
I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the
present.
thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply..


It seems you completely misunderstand the nature of the forum. Although MS
provides the server space, this forum is about users helping users.

The "guarantees" are worth what you pay for them; and I'm sure some will offer
you double-your-money-back if you are not satisfied.
--ron
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The only thing I would add is that for so long as there are questions to be
asked and a forum in which to ask them there will be people here to give you
a hand... I have every faith that things will break and that things will get
fixed.

Gee Bob... I thought you were one of the guarantees in life? I'm shattered!
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Jim Thomlinson


"Bob Phillips" wrote:

It is a forum provided by MS for MS products, apart from offensive content,
MS then let it roll, and make no commitments to what is done or said here.

MVPs are not MS people, MS give the award as a recognition of their
contribution to helping communities, but again with no commitment on either
party other than behaving appropriately.

There are only 2 guarantees in life, and you know them, MS products sure
aren't one of them.

If you are looking for guarantees that anything you do, anything you
install, etc. will work in future MS products, your dreaming IMO. Either
ride the risk, or use the LCD of functionality.

--

HTH

Bob Phillips

(replace xxxx in the email address with gmail if mailing direct)

"4pinoy" wrote in message
...
Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple
excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd
party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering

the
following.
1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula

building
thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel
upgrade?
2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by
the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum
guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to

all
the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any

suggestion
even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or

distinguished
precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that

I
may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula
structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files.
I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on

the
present.
thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply..




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I am not questioning about the whole products...I am pertaining only on the
formula structuring of excel - no more no less.
Since I use excel, I hade never experienced a fault on formula structuing
huided by the help files...I consider the help files as a true guarantee on a
cautiously made spreadsheet.. Out from the help files,,,I cannot do it ay all.

Also
see : https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvptechres
I've scanned thru the above site and found out the
certifications/licensing/opportunities/rights/entitlements for MVP directly.
Hence I suppose that all of checked suggestions are responsive and linked
with microsoft excel formula structuring.

You can also see from other page where the forum's page with rules of
conduct and other matters about microsoft role on this forum together with
MVP's who can control the forum in checking and unchecking....
I hope that everything is linked together, same with the basics of excel
formula structuring...
My question is still unanswered, if 3rd party is not a part, then why check
it ?



"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote:

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:01:03 -0800, 4pinoy
wrote:

Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple
excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd
party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the
following.
1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building
thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel
upgrade?



NO


2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by
the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum
guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all
the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion
even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished
precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I
may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula
structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files.
I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the
present.
thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply..


It seems you completely misunderstand the nature of the forum. Although MS
provides the server space, this forum is about users helping users.

The "guarantees" are worth what you pay for them; and I'm sure some will offer
you double-your-money-back if you are not satisfied.
--ron



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The check marks on this site are not added by the MVP's. They are added by
the person asking the question. If they found the answer provided to be
helpful then they can Select "Yes" at the bottom where it asks "Was this post
helpful to you?". That adds the checkmark which is then attributed to the
person who supplied the answer. Based on the number of helpful posts given a
medal (gold, silver or bronze) may show up beside their name...
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HTH...

Jim Thomlinson


"4pinoy" wrote:

I am not questioning about the whole products...I am pertaining only on the
formula structuring of excel - no more no less.
Since I use excel, I hade never experienced a fault on formula structuing
huided by the help files...I consider the help files as a true guarantee on a
cautiously made spreadsheet.. Out from the help files,,,I cannot do it ay all.

Also
see : https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvptechres
I've scanned thru the above site and found out the
certifications/licensing/opportunities/rights/entitlements for MVP directly.
Hence I suppose that all of checked suggestions are responsive and linked
with microsoft excel formula structuring.

You can also see from other page where the forum's page with rules of
conduct and other matters about microsoft role on this forum together with
MVP's who can control the forum in checking and unchecking....
I hope that everything is linked together, same with the basics of excel
formula structuring...
My question is still unanswered, if 3rd party is not a part, then why check
it ?



"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote:

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:01:03 -0800, 4pinoy
wrote:

Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple
excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd
party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the
following.
1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building
thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel
upgrade?



NO


2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by
the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum
guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all
the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion
even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished
precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I
may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula
structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files.
I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the
present.
thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply..


It seems you completely misunderstand the nature of the forum. Although MS
provides the server space, this forum is about users helping users.

The "guarantees" are worth what you pay for them; and I'm sure some will offer
you double-your-money-back if you are not satisfied.
--ron

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"Jim Thomlinson" wrote:

The check marks on this site are not added by the MVP's. They are added by
the person asking the question. If they found the answer provided to be
helpful then they can Select "Yes" at the bottom where it asks "Was this post
helpful to you?". That adds the checkmark which is then attributed to the
person who supplied the answer. Based on the number of helpful posts given a
medal (gold, silver or bronze) may show up beside their name...
--
HTH...

Jim Thomlinson


"4pinoy" wrote:

I am not questioning about the whole products...I am pertaining only on the
formula structuring of excel - no more no less.
Since I use excel, I hade never experienced a fault on formula structuing
huided by the help files...I consider the help files as a true guarantee on a
cautiously made spreadsheet.. Out from the help files,,,I cannot do it ay all.

Also
see : https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvptechres
I've scanned thru the above site and found out the
certifications/licensing/opportunities/rights/entitlements for MVP directly.
Hence I suppose that all of checked suggestions are responsive and linked
with microsoft excel formula structuring.

You can also see from other page where the forum's page with rules of
conduct and other matters about microsoft role on this forum together with
MVP's who can control the forum in checking and unchecking....
I hope that everything is linked together, same with the basics of excel
formula structuring...
My question is still unanswered, if 3rd party is not a part, then why check
it ?



"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote:

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:01:03 -0800, 4pinoy
wrote:

Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple
excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd
party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the
following.
1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building
thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel
upgrade?


NO


2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by
the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum
guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all
the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion
even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished
precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I
may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula
structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files.
I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the
present.
thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply..

It seems you completely misunderstand the nature of the forum. Although MS
provides the server space, this forum is about users helping users.

The "guarantees" are worth what you pay for them; and I'm sure some will offer
you double-your-money-back if you are not satisfied.
--ron

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Lets hope Jim that this thread will close with a checked mark....I will leave
it for the MVP's because I really dont know which one from above is the
correct one.

"MVPs can also mark a reply post in a question thread as an answer"...

more power, thanks to all...

"Jim Thomlinson" wrote:

The check marks on this site are not added by the MVP's. They are added by
the person asking the question. If they found the answer provided to be
helpful then they can Select "Yes" at the bottom where it asks "Was this post
helpful to you?". That adds the checkmark which is then attributed to the
person who supplied the answer. Based on the number of helpful posts given a
medal (gold, silver or bronze) may show up beside their name...
--
HTH...

Jim Thomlinson


"4pinoy" wrote:

I am not questioning about the whole products...I am pertaining only on the
formula structuring of excel - no more no less.
Since I use excel, I hade never experienced a fault on formula structuing
huided by the help files...I consider the help files as a true guarantee on a
cautiously made spreadsheet.. Out from the help files,,,I cannot do it ay all.

Also
see : https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvptechres
I've scanned thru the above site and found out the
certifications/licensing/opportunities/rights/entitlements for MVP directly.
Hence I suppose that all of checked suggestions are responsive and linked
with microsoft excel formula structuring.

You can also see from other page where the forum's page with rules of
conduct and other matters about microsoft role on this forum together with
MVP's who can control the forum in checking and unchecking....
I hope that everything is linked together, same with the basics of excel
formula structuring...
My question is still unanswered, if 3rd party is not a part, then why check
it ?



"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote:

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:01:03 -0800, 4pinoy
wrote:

Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple
excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd
party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the
following.
1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building
thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel
upgrade?


NO


2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by
the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum
guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all
the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion
even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished
precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I
may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula
structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files.
I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the
present.
thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply..

It seems you completely misunderstand the nature of the forum. Although MS
provides the server space, this forum is about users helping users.

The "guarantees" are worth what you pay for them; and I'm sure some will offer
you double-your-money-back if you are not satisfied.
--ron

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I don't know of too many MVP's using the CDO interface so don't think they are
doing much checking of replies.


Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:39:02 -0800, 4pinoy
wrote:

Lets hope Jim that this thread will close with a checked mark....I will leave
it for the MVP's because I really dont know which one from above is the
correct one.

"MVPs can also mark a reply post in a question thread as an answer"...

more power, thanks to all...

"Jim Thomlinson" wrote:

The check marks on this site are not added by the MVP's. They are added by
the person asking the question. If they found the answer provided to be
helpful then they can Select "Yes" at the bottom where it asks "Was this post
helpful to you?". That adds the checkmark which is then attributed to the
person who supplied the answer. Based on the number of helpful posts given a
medal (gold, silver or bronze) may show up beside their name...
--
HTH...

Jim Thomlinson


"4pinoy" wrote:

I am not questioning about the whole products...I am pertaining only on the
formula structuring of excel - no more no less.
Since I use excel, I hade never experienced a fault on formula structuing
huided by the help files...I consider the help files as a true guarantee on a
cautiously made spreadsheet.. Out from the help files,,,I cannot do it ay all.

Also
see : https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvptechres
I've scanned thru the above site and found out the
certifications/licensing/opportunities/rights/entitlements for MVP directly.
Hence I suppose that all of checked suggestions are responsive and linked
with microsoft excel formula structuring.

You can also see from other page where the forum's page with rules of
conduct and other matters about microsoft role on this forum together with
MVP's who can control the forum in checking and unchecking....
I hope that everything is linked together, same with the basics of excel
formula structuring...
My question is still unanswered, if 3rd party is not a part, then why check
it ?



"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote:

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:01:03 -0800, 4pinoy
wrote:

Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple
excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd
party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the
following.
1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building
thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel
upgrade?


NO


2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by
the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum
guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all
the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion
even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished
precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I
may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula
structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files.
I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the
present.
thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply..

It seems you completely misunderstand the nature of the forum. Although MS
provides the server space, this forum is about users helping users.

The "guarantees" are worth what you pay for them; and I'm sure some will offer
you double-your-money-back if you are not satisfied.
--ron


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Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP
please close this thread with your checkmark.

"Gord Dibben" wrote:

I don't know of too many MVP's using the CDO interface so don't think they are
doing much checking of replies.


Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:39:02 -0800, 4pinoy
wrote:

Lets hope Jim that this thread will close with a checked mark....I will leave
it for the MVP's because I really dont know which one from above is the
correct one.

"MVPs can also mark a reply post in a question thread as an answer"...

more power, thanks to all...

"Jim Thomlinson" wrote:

The check marks on this site are not added by the MVP's. They are added by
the person asking the question. If they found the answer provided to be
helpful then they can Select "Yes" at the bottom where it asks "Was this post
helpful to you?". That adds the checkmark which is then attributed to the
person who supplied the answer. Based on the number of helpful posts given a
medal (gold, silver or bronze) may show up beside their name...
--
HTH...

Jim Thomlinson


"4pinoy" wrote:

I am not questioning about the whole products...I am pertaining only on the
formula structuring of excel - no more no less.
Since I use excel, I hade never experienced a fault on formula structuing
huided by the help files...I consider the help files as a true guarantee on a
cautiously made spreadsheet.. Out from the help files,,,I cannot do it ay all.

Also
see : https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvptechres
I've scanned thru the above site and found out the
certifications/licensing/opportunities/rights/entitlements for MVP directly.
Hence I suppose that all of checked suggestions are responsive and linked
with microsoft excel formula structuring.

You can also see from other page where the forum's page with rules of
conduct and other matters about microsoft role on this forum together with
MVP's who can control the forum in checking and unchecking....
I hope that everything is linked together, same with the basics of excel
formula structuring...
My question is still unanswered, if 3rd party is not a part, then why check
it ?



"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote:

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:01:03 -0800, 4pinoy
wrote:

Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple
excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd
party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the
following.
1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building
thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel
upgrade?


NO


2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by
the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum
guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all
the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion
even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished
precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I
may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula
structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files.
I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the
present.
thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply..

It seems you completely misunderstand the nature of the forum. Although MS
provides the server space, this forum is about users helping users.

The "guarantees" are worth what you pay for them; and I'm sure some will offer
you double-your-money-back if you are not satisfied.
--ron





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If I was an MVP I would!

Biff

"Gord Dibben" <gorddibbATshawDOTca wrote in message
...
I don't know of too many MVP's using the CDO interface so don't think they
are
doing much checking of replies.


Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:39:02 -0800, 4pinoy

wrote:

Lets hope Jim that this thread will close with a checked mark....I will
leave
it for the MVP's because I really dont know which one from above is the
correct one.

"MVPs can also mark a reply post in a question thread as an answer"...

more power, thanks to all...

"Jim Thomlinson" wrote:

The check marks on this site are not added by the MVP's. They are added
by
the person asking the question. If they found the answer provided to be
helpful then they can Select "Yes" at the bottom where it asks "Was this
post
helpful to you?". That adds the checkmark which is then attributed to
the
person who supplied the answer. Based on the number of helpful posts
given a
medal (gold, silver or bronze) may show up beside their name...
--
HTH...

Jim Thomlinson


"4pinoy" wrote:

I am not questioning about the whole products...I am pertaining only
on the
formula structuring of excel - no more no less.
Since I use excel, I hade never experienced a fault on formula
structuing
huided by the help files...I consider the help files as a true
guarantee on a
cautiously made spreadsheet.. Out from the help files,,,I cannot do it
ay all.

Also
see : https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvptechres
I've scanned thru the above site and found out the
certifications/licensing/opportunities/rights/entitlements for MVP
directly.
Hence I suppose that all of checked suggestions are responsive and
linked
with microsoft excel formula structuring.

You can also see from other page where the forum's page with rules of
conduct and other matters about microsoft role on this forum together
with
MVP's who can control the forum in checking and unchecking....
I hope that everything is linked together, same with the basics of
excel
formula structuring...
My question is still unanswered, if 3rd party is not a part, then why
check
it ?



"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote:

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:01:03 -0800, 4pinoy

wrote:

Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a
simple
excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain
from 3rd
party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program
considering the
following.
1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula
building
thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any
excel
upgrade?


NO


2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not
covered by
the Help Files samples and Function description, will this
microsoft forum
guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be
integral to all
the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any
suggestion
even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or
distinguished
precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the
future that I
may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula
structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files.
I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is
based on the
present.
thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply..

It seems you completely misunderstand the nature of the forum.
Although MS
provides the server space, this forum is about users helping users.

The "guarantees" are worth what you pay for them; and I'm sure some
will offer
you double-your-money-back if you are not satisfied.
--ron




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How would you propose I do that?


Gord


On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:42:01 -0800, driller
wrote:

Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP
please close this thread with your checkmark.

"Gord Dibben" wrote:

I don't know of too many MVP's using the CDO interface so don't think they are
doing much checking of replies.


Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:39:02 -0800, 4pinoy
wrote:

Lets hope Jim that this thread will close with a checked mark....I will leave
it for the MVP's because I really dont know which one from above is the
correct one.

"MVPs can also mark a reply post in a question thread as an answer"...

more power, thanks to all...

"Jim Thomlinson" wrote:

The check marks on this site are not added by the MVP's. They are added by
the person asking the question. If they found the answer provided to be
helpful then they can Select "Yes" at the bottom where it asks "Was this post
helpful to you?". That adds the checkmark which is then attributed to the
person who supplied the answer. Based on the number of helpful posts given a
medal (gold, silver or bronze) may show up beside their name...
--
HTH...

Jim Thomlinson


"4pinoy" wrote:

I am not questioning about the whole products...I am pertaining only on the
formula structuring of excel - no more no less.
Since I use excel, I hade never experienced a fault on formula structuing
huided by the help files...I consider the help files as a true guarantee on a
cautiously made spreadsheet.. Out from the help files,,,I cannot do it ay all.

Also
see : https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvptechres
I've scanned thru the above site and found out the
certifications/licensing/opportunities/rights/entitlements for MVP directly.
Hence I suppose that all of checked suggestions are responsive and linked
with microsoft excel formula structuring.

You can also see from other page where the forum's page with rules of
conduct and other matters about microsoft role on this forum together with
MVP's who can control the forum in checking and unchecking....
I hope that everything is linked together, same with the basics of excel
formula structuring...
My question is still unanswered, if 3rd party is not a part, then why check
it ?



"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote:

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:01:03 -0800, 4pinoy
wrote:

Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple
excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd
party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the
following.
1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building
thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel
upgrade?


NO


2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by
the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum
guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all
the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion
even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished
precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I
may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula
structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files.
I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the
present.
thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply..

It seems you completely misunderstand the nature of the forum. Although MS
provides the server space, this forum is about users helping users.

The "guarantees" are worth what you pay for them; and I'm sure some will offer
you double-your-money-back if you are not satisfied.
--ron




Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP
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Do what?

Use the CDO interface?

Surely you jest.

Or maybe I should have said "check-marking of replies".


Gord



On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:48:10 -0500, "Biff" wrote:

If I was an MVP I would!

Biff

"Gord Dibben" <gorddibbATshawDOTca wrote in message
.. .
I don't know of too many MVP's using the CDO interface so don't think they
are
doing much checking of replies.


Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:39:02 -0800, 4pinoy

wrote:

Lets hope Jim that this thread will close with a checked mark....I will
leave
it for the MVP's because I really dont know which one from above is the
correct one.

"MVPs can also mark a reply post in a question thread as an answer"...

more power, thanks to all...

"Jim Thomlinson" wrote:

The check marks on this site are not added by the MVP's. They are added
by
the person asking the question. If they found the answer provided to be
helpful then they can Select "Yes" at the bottom where it asks "Was this
post
helpful to you?". That adds the checkmark which is then attributed to
the
person who supplied the answer. Based on the number of helpful posts
given a
medal (gold, silver or bronze) may show up beside their name...
--
HTH...

Jim Thomlinson


"4pinoy" wrote:

I am not questioning about the whole products...I am pertaining only
on the
formula structuring of excel - no more no less.
Since I use excel, I hade never experienced a fault on formula
structuing
huided by the help files...I consider the help files as a true
guarantee on a
cautiously made spreadsheet.. Out from the help files,,,I cannot do it
ay all.

Also
see : https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvptechres
I've scanned thru the above site and found out the
certifications/licensing/opportunities/rights/entitlements for MVP
directly.
Hence I suppose that all of checked suggestions are responsive and
linked
with microsoft excel formula structuring.

You can also see from other page where the forum's page with rules of
conduct and other matters about microsoft role on this forum together
with
MVP's who can control the forum in checking and unchecking....
I hope that everything is linked together, same with the basics of
excel
formula structuring...
My question is still unanswered, if 3rd party is not a part, then why
check
it ?



"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote:

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:01:03 -0800, 4pinoy

wrote:

Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a
simple
excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain
from 3rd
party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program
considering the
following.
1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula
building
thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any
excel
upgrade?


NO


2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not
covered by
the Help Files samples and Function description, will this
microsoft forum
guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be
integral to all
the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any
suggestion
even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or
distinguished
precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the
future that I
may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula
structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files.
I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is
based on the
present.
thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply..

It seems you completely misunderstand the nature of the forum.
Although MS
provides the server space, this forum is about users helping users.

The "guarantees" are worth what you pay for them; and I'm sure some
will offer
you double-your-money-back if you are not satisfied.
--ron




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thanks Biff,
If I was an MVP I would!


Maybe you mean = If you are!

"Biff" wrote:

If I was an MVP I would!

Biff

"Gord Dibben" <gorddibbATshawDOTca wrote in message
...
I don't know of too many MVP's using the CDO interface so don't think they
are
doing much checking of replies.


Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:39:02 -0800, 4pinoy

wrote:

Lets hope Jim that this thread will close with a checked mark....I will
leave
it for the MVP's because I really dont know which one from above is the
correct one.

"MVPs can also mark a reply post in a question thread as an answer"...

more power, thanks to all...

"Jim Thomlinson" wrote:

The check marks on this site are not added by the MVP's. They are added
by
the person asking the question. If they found the answer provided to be
helpful then they can Select "Yes" at the bottom where it asks "Was this
post
helpful to you?". That adds the checkmark which is then attributed to
the
person who supplied the answer. Based on the number of helpful posts
given a
medal (gold, silver or bronze) may show up beside their name...
--
HTH...

Jim Thomlinson


"4pinoy" wrote:

I am not questioning about the whole products...I am pertaining only
on the
formula structuring of excel - no more no less.
Since I use excel, I hade never experienced a fault on formula
structuing
huided by the help files...I consider the help files as a true
guarantee on a
cautiously made spreadsheet.. Out from the help files,,,I cannot do it
ay all.

Also
see : https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvptechres
I've scanned thru the above site and found out the
certifications/licensing/opportunities/rights/entitlements for MVP
directly.
Hence I suppose that all of checked suggestions are responsive and
linked
with microsoft excel formula structuring.

You can also see from other page where the forum's page with rules of
conduct and other matters about microsoft role on this forum together
with
MVP's who can control the forum in checking and unchecking....
I hope that everything is linked together, same with the basics of
excel
formula structuring...
My question is still unanswered, if 3rd party is not a part, then why
check
it ?



"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote:

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:01:03 -0800, 4pinoy

wrote:

Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a
simple
excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain
from 3rd
party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program
considering the
following.
1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula
building
thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any
excel
upgrade?


NO


2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not
covered by
the Help Files samples and Function description, will this
microsoft forum
guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be
integral to all
the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any
suggestion
even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or
distinguished
precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the
future that I
may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula
structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files.
I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is
based on the
present.
thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply..

It seems you completely misunderstand the nature of the forum.
Although MS
provides the server space, this forum is about users helping users.

The "guarantees" are worth what you pay for them; and I'm sure some
will offer
you double-your-money-back if you are not satisfied.
--ron





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Hi Biff,
base on your experience in the forum, do you think i need to re-post this to
have the MVP rechecking attention tomorrow ?

"Biff" wrote:

If I was an MVP I would!

Biff

"Gord Dibben" <gorddibbATshawDOTca wrote in message
...
I don't know of too many MVP's using the CDO interface so don't think they
are
doing much checking of replies.


Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:39:02 -0800, 4pinoy

wrote:

Lets hope Jim that this thread will close with a checked mark....I will
leave
it for the MVP's because I really dont know which one from above is the
correct one.

"MVPs can also mark a reply post in a question thread as an answer"...

more power, thanks to all...

"Jim Thomlinson" wrote:

The check marks on this site are not added by the MVP's. They are added
by
the person asking the question. If they found the answer provided to be
helpful then they can Select "Yes" at the bottom where it asks "Was this
post
helpful to you?". That adds the checkmark which is then attributed to
the
person who supplied the answer. Based on the number of helpful posts
given a
medal (gold, silver or bronze) may show up beside their name...
--
HTH...

Jim Thomlinson


"4pinoy" wrote:

I am not questioning about the whole products...I am pertaining only
on the
formula structuring of excel - no more no less.
Since I use excel, I hade never experienced a fault on formula
structuing
huided by the help files...I consider the help files as a true
guarantee on a
cautiously made spreadsheet.. Out from the help files,,,I cannot do it
ay all.

Also
see : https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvptechres
I've scanned thru the above site and found out the
certifications/licensing/opportunities/rights/entitlements for MVP
directly.
Hence I suppose that all of checked suggestions are responsive and
linked
with microsoft excel formula structuring.

You can also see from other page where the forum's page with rules of
conduct and other matters about microsoft role on this forum together
with
MVP's who can control the forum in checking and unchecking....
I hope that everything is linked together, same with the basics of
excel
formula structuring...
My question is still unanswered, if 3rd party is not a part, then why
check
it ?



"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote:

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:01:03 -0800, 4pinoy

wrote:

Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a
simple
excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain
from 3rd
party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program
considering the
following.
1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula
building
thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any
excel
upgrade?


NO


2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not
covered by
the Help Files samples and Function description, will this
microsoft forum
guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be
integral to all
the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any
suggestion
even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or
distinguished
precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the
future that I
may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula
structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files.
I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is
based on the
present.
thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply..

It seems you completely misunderstand the nature of the forum.
Although MS
provides the server space, this forum is about users helping users.

The "guarantees" are worth what you pay for them; and I'm sure some
will offer
you double-your-money-back if you are not satisfied.
--ron







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You are flogging a dead horse

Bob

"4pinoy" wrote in message
...
Hi Biff,
base on your experience in the forum, do you think i need to re-post this

to
have the MVP rechecking attention tomorrow ?

"Biff" wrote:

If I was an MVP I would!

Biff

"Gord Dibben" <gorddibbATshawDOTca wrote in message
...
I don't know of too many MVP's using the CDO interface so don't think

they
are
doing much checking of replies.


Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP




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then Bob, How come you are still here?

"Bob Phillips" wrote:

You are flogging a dead horse

Bob

"4pinoy" wrote in message
...
Hi Biff,
base on your experience in the forum, do you think i need to re-post this

to
have the MVP rechecking attention tomorrow ?

"Biff" wrote:

If I was an MVP I would!

Biff

"Gord Dibben" <gorddibbATshawDOTca wrote in message
...
I don't know of too many MVP's using the CDO interface so don't think

they
are
doing much checking of replies.


Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP





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gotto sleep...I'll be back on the thread tomorrow or post it back
again...thanks a lot for your sincere participation...

"4pinoy" wrote:

then Bob, How come you are still here?

"Bob Phillips" wrote:

You are flogging a dead horse

Bob

"4pinoy" wrote in message
...
Hi Biff,
base on your experience in the forum, do you think i need to re-post this

to
have the MVP rechecking attention tomorrow ?

"Biff" wrote:

If I was an MVP I would!

Biff

"Gord Dibben" <gorddibbATshawDOTca wrote in message
...
I don't know of too many MVP's using the CDO interface so don't think

they
are
doing much checking of replies.


Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP





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I would occasionally "check-mark replies". I used to access through the
"old" web interface. It wasn't as bad as this newer version. When MS dumped
the older version I switched to using OE.

I think that having an MVP "endorse" or "approve" replies is a good idea.

Biff

"Gord Dibben" <gorddibbATshawDOTca wrote in message
...
Do what?

Use the CDO interface?

Surely you jest.

Or maybe I should have said "check-marking of replies".


Gord



On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:48:10 -0500, "Biff" wrote:

If I was an MVP I would!

Biff

"Gord Dibben" <gorddibbATshawDOTca wrote in message
. ..
I don't know of too many MVP's using the CDO interface so don't think
they
are
doing much checking of replies.


Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:39:02 -0800, 4pinoy

wrote:

Lets hope Jim that this thread will close with a checked mark....I will
leave
it for the MVP's because I really dont know which one from above is the
correct one.

"MVPs can also mark a reply post in a question thread as an answer"...

more power, thanks to all...

"Jim Thomlinson" wrote:

The check marks on this site are not added by the MVP's. They are
added
by
the person asking the question. If they found the answer provided to
be
helpful then they can Select "Yes" at the bottom where it asks "Was
this
post
helpful to you?". That adds the checkmark which is then attributed to
the
person who supplied the answer. Based on the number of helpful posts
given a
medal (gold, silver or bronze) may show up beside their name...
--
HTH...

Jim Thomlinson


"4pinoy" wrote:

I am not questioning about the whole products...I am pertaining only
on the
formula structuring of excel - no more no less.
Since I use excel, I hade never experienced a fault on formula
structuing
huided by the help files...I consider the help files as a true
guarantee on a
cautiously made spreadsheet.. Out from the help files,,,I cannot do
it
ay all.

Also
see : https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvptechres
I've scanned thru the above site and found out the
certifications/licensing/opportunities/rights/entitlements for MVP
directly.
Hence I suppose that all of checked suggestions are responsive and
linked
with microsoft excel formula structuring.

You can also see from other page where the forum's page with rules
of
conduct and other matters about microsoft role on this forum
together
with
MVP's who can control the forum in checking and unchecking....
I hope that everything is linked together, same with the basics of
excel
formula structuring...
My question is still unanswered, if 3rd party is not a part, then
why
check
it ?



"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote:

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:01:03 -0800, 4pinoy

wrote:

Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a
simple
excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain
from 3rd
party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program
considering the
following.
1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested
formula
building
thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any
excel
upgrade?


NO


2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not
covered by
the Help Files samples and Function description, will this
microsoft forum
guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be
integral to all
the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any
suggestion
even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or
distinguished
precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the
future that I
may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained
formula
structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files.
I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is
based on the
present.
thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply..

It seems you completely misunderstand the nature of the forum.
Although MS
provides the server space, this forum is about users helping
users.

The "guarantees" are worth what you pay for them; and I'm sure
some
will offer
you double-your-money-back if you are not satisfied.
--ron






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Well, several MVP's have already replied and I agree with what they've said.
As to the subject of the post, there are no guarantees!

Biff

"4pinoy" wrote in message
...
Hi Biff,
base on your experience in the forum, do you think i need to re-post this
to
have the MVP rechecking attention tomorrow ?

"Biff" wrote:

If I was an MVP I would!

Biff

"Gord Dibben" <gorddibbATshawDOTca wrote in message
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I don't know of too many MVP's using the CDO interface so don't think
they
are
doing much checking of replies.


Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:39:02 -0800, 4pinoy

wrote:

Lets hope Jim that this thread will close with a checked mark....I will
leave
it for the MVP's because I really dont know which one from above is the
correct one.

"MVPs can also mark a reply post in a question thread as an answer"...

more power, thanks to all...

"Jim Thomlinson" wrote:

The check marks on this site are not added by the MVP's. They are
added
by
the person asking the question. If they found the answer provided to
be
helpful then they can Select "Yes" at the bottom where it asks "Was
this
post
helpful to you?". That adds the checkmark which is then attributed to
the
person who supplied the answer. Based on the number of helpful posts
given a
medal (gold, silver or bronze) may show up beside their name...
--
HTH...

Jim Thomlinson


"4pinoy" wrote:

I am not questioning about the whole products...I am pertaining
only
on the
formula structuring of excel - no more no less.
Since I use excel, I hade never experienced a fault on formula
structuing
huided by the help files...I consider the help files as a true
guarantee on a
cautiously made spreadsheet.. Out from the help files,,,I cannot do
it
ay all.

Also
see : https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvptechres
I've scanned thru the above site and found out the
certifications/licensing/opportunities/rights/entitlements for MVP
directly.
Hence I suppose that all of checked suggestions are responsive and
linked
with microsoft excel formula structuring.

You can also see from other page where the forum's page with rules
of
conduct and other matters about microsoft role on this forum
together
with
MVP's who can control the forum in checking and unchecking....
I hope that everything is linked together, same with the basics of
excel
formula structuring...
My question is still unanswered, if 3rd party is not a part, then
why
check
it ?



"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote:

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:01:03 -0800, 4pinoy

wrote:

Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as
a
simple
excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain
from 3rd
party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program
considering the
following.
1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested
formula
building
thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any
excel
upgrade?


NO


2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not
covered by
the Help Files samples and Function description, will this
microsoft forum
guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be
integral to all
the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain
any
suggestion
even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or
distinguished
precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the
future that I
may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained
formula
structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support
files.
I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is
based on the
present.
thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply..

It seems you completely misunderstand the nature of the forum.
Although MS
provides the server space, this forum is about users helping
users.

The "guarantees" are worth what you pay for them; and I'm sure
some
will offer
you double-your-money-back if you are not satisfied.
--ron









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I am a regular user of this forum and I would like to say something.

When I first started using MS newsgroup(s), I did it through web interface. I made a point to rate the answers so as to show my appreciation. One day, I realize that most experts, MVP's etc. don't use web interface. So, I do what the experts do and I have switched to OE, Google etc. From then on, I have stopped rating the answers as there is no way to do it through OE or Google.

I always believe that the poster is free to choose from the various solutions suggested by the gurus. He/she is responsible for the consequence of his/her decision. Anyone who provides an answer is a volunteer with a helping heart. I don't pay anyone any money and therefore I don't demand. Do Excel consultants provide guarantees when clients pay them big money? I am not sure. Outside MS, I constantly find bugs in systems even when I pay for service.

About the Excel Help, I have found more mistakes than I want to. I am a fan of SUMPRODUCT which is not truly explained in the Help files. If I only confine myself to the Help files I would have missed out a lot and I mean a lot. Shall we include the SUMPRODUCT paper as part of Excel Help?

I always look for quality and I am happy with the advice and guidance I get from this forum. If one expert inadvertently made a typo, someone else would probably catch it.

I am not sure what you are *truly* after. Life is full of risks.

Off topic - The consumer report says that we shouldn't bother with extended *warranty*; it's a waste of money!

I thought I could keep quiet for a few days ......

Epinn

"4pinoy" wrote in message ...
Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple
excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd
party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the
following.
1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building
thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel
upgrade?
2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by
the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum
guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all
the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion
even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished
precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I
may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula
structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files.
I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the
present.
thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply..


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"Biff" wrote in message
...
I would occasionally "check-mark replies". I used to access through the
"old" web interface. It wasn't as bad as this newer version. When MS

dumped
the older version I switched to using OE.

I think that having an MVP "endorse" or "approve" replies is a good idea.


I disagree. MVPs carry no more authority than anyone else, the award is
based upon their readiness to support communities, and the amount that they
do. Quality is an element, but there is no benchmark that I know of
associated with the award. There is no suggestion that an MVP is smarter,
better at Excel, or anything else than say you for an example.

The thought that an MVPs answer or opinion but come to be regards as the
'right' response just because they be an MVP sends a shiver down my spine.

I would also guess that there would be few MVPs who would care to be
carrying out the admin task of endorsing or approving the reply. What
happens when an MVP endorses a reply and it is wrong?




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Because I am interested in what the others have to say. Your point is well
intentioned but misguided IMO, but I can still listen to you.

--

HTH

Bob Phillips

(replace xxxx in the email address with gmail if mailing direct)

"4pinoy" wrote in message
...
then Bob, How come you are still here?

"Bob Phillips" wrote:

You are flogging a dead horse

Bob

"4pinoy" wrote in message
...
Hi Biff,
base on your experience in the forum, do you think i need to re-post

this
to
have the MVP rechecking attention tomorrow ?

"Biff" wrote:

If I was an MVP I would!

Biff

"Gord Dibben" <gorddibbATshawDOTca wrote in message
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I don't know of too many MVP's using the CDO interface so don't

think
they
are
doing much checking of replies.


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Well said. Encapsulates my views, but more eloquently said.

Bob

"Epinn" wrote in message
...
I am a regular user of this forum and I would like to say something.

When I first started using MS newsgroup(s), I did it through web interface.
I made a point to rate the answers so as to show my appreciation. One day,
I realize that most experts, MVP's etc. don't use web interface. So, I do
what the experts do and I have switched to OE, Google etc. From then on, I
have stopped rating the answers as there is no way to do it through OE or
Google.

I always believe that the poster is free to choose from the various
solutions suggested by the gurus. He/she is responsible for the consequence
of his/her decision. Anyone who provides an answer is a volunteer with a
helping heart. I don't pay anyone any money and therefore I don't demand.
Do Excel consultants provide guarantees when clients pay them big money? I
am not sure. Outside MS, I constantly find bugs in systems even when I pay
for service.

About the Excel Help, I have found more mistakes than I want to. I am a fan
of SUMPRODUCT which is not truly explained in the Help files. If I only
confine myself to the Help files I would have missed out a lot and I mean a
lot. Shall we include the SUMPRODUCT paper as part of Excel Help?

I always look for quality and I am happy with the advice and guidance I get
from this forum. If one expert inadvertently made a typo, someone else
would probably catch it.

I am not sure what you are *truly* after. Life is full of risks.

Off topic - The consumer report says that we shouldn't bother with extended
*warranty*; it's a waste of money!

I thought I could keep quiet for a few days ......

Epinn



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I also agree and would like to point out that many times there is no
"correct" answer because, as we all know, there are many ways to do the same
thing in Excel. All correct. And, since we are all human, we all make
mistakes. I sometimes catch others mistakes and they catch mine. This is
helpful to all, including you.

--
Don Guillett
SalesAid Software

"Bob Phillips" wrote in message
...
Well said. Encapsulates my views, but more eloquently said.

Bob

"Epinn" wrote in message
...
I am a regular user of this forum and I would like to say something.

When I first started using MS newsgroup(s), I did it through web
interface.
I made a point to rate the answers so as to show my appreciation. One
day,
I realize that most experts, MVP's etc. don't use web interface. So, I do
what the experts do and I have switched to OE, Google etc. From then on,
I
have stopped rating the answers as there is no way to do it through OE or
Google.

I always believe that the poster is free to choose from the various
solutions suggested by the gurus. He/she is responsible for the
consequence
of his/her decision. Anyone who provides an answer is a volunteer with a
helping heart. I don't pay anyone any money and therefore I don't demand.
Do Excel consultants provide guarantees when clients pay them big money?
I
am not sure. Outside MS, I constantly find bugs in systems even when I
pay
for service.

About the Excel Help, I have found more mistakes than I want to. I am a
fan
of SUMPRODUCT which is not truly explained in the Help files. If I only
confine myself to the Help files I would have missed out a lot and I mean
a
lot. Shall we include the SUMPRODUCT paper as part of Excel Help?

I always look for quality and I am happy with the advice and guidance I
get
from this forum. If one expert inadvertently made a typo, someone else
would probably catch it.

I am not sure what you are *truly* after. Life is full of risks.

Off topic - The consumer report says that we shouldn't bother with
extended
*warranty*; it's a waste of money!

I thought I could keep quiet for a few days ......

Epinn







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Right Don.........and many times it's not as hard to figure out an Excel
answer to an OP's question, as it is to interpret exactly what the Op is
looking for from their usually "non-excel terminology".


Vaya con Dios,
Chuck, CABGx3




"Don Guillett" wrote:

I also agree and would like to point out that many times there is no
"correct" answer because, as we all know, there are many ways to do the same
thing in Excel. All correct. And, since we are all human, we all make
mistakes. I sometimes catch others mistakes and they catch mine. This is
helpful to all, including you.

--
Don Guillett
SalesAid Software

"Bob Phillips" wrote in message
...
Well said. Encapsulates my views, but more eloquently said.

Bob

"Epinn" wrote in message
...
I am a regular user of this forum and I would like to say something.

When I first started using MS newsgroup(s), I did it through web
interface.
I made a point to rate the answers so as to show my appreciation. One
day,
I realize that most experts, MVP's etc. don't use web interface. So, I do
what the experts do and I have switched to OE, Google etc. From then on,
I
have stopped rating the answers as there is no way to do it through OE or
Google.

I always believe that the poster is free to choose from the various
solutions suggested by the gurus. He/she is responsible for the
consequence
of his/her decision. Anyone who provides an answer is a volunteer with a
helping heart. I don't pay anyone any money and therefore I don't demand.
Do Excel consultants provide guarantees when clients pay them big money?
I
am not sure. Outside MS, I constantly find bugs in systems even when I
pay
for service.

About the Excel Help, I have found more mistakes than I want to. I am a
fan
of SUMPRODUCT which is not truly explained in the Help files. If I only
confine myself to the Help files I would have missed out a lot and I mean
a
lot. Shall we include the SUMPRODUCT paper as part of Excel Help?

I always look for quality and I am happy with the advice and guidance I
get
from this forum. If one expert inadvertently made a typo, someone else
would probably catch it.

I am not sure what you are *truly* after. Life is full of risks.

Off topic - The consumer report says that we shouldn't bother with
extended
*warranty*; it's a waste of money!

I thought I could keep quiet for a few days ......

Epinn






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I want to add something.



Only the person asking the question sees the *entire* picture of his/her own needs (well, I am not surprised if that's not the case sometimes). A lot of times, posters answer questions based on a small piece of the puzzle. Therefore, they shouldn't be responsible for the outcome of anyone's project. The project members are responsible for *testing* the solutions suggested *in depth*.



Let's say someone gave you a wrong answer and your project fell apart and you got fired (God forbid). In what way do you expect your *guarantee* translate to? Sue someone for your loss?



About compatibility with future upgrade, I want to quote what the mutual fund companies always say, "Past performance does not guarantee future results." Maybe I/we should include this disclaimer when I/we answer posts. <g



Although I have a lot of respect for most MVP's, I agree with Bob's view. My understanding is that the award is given based on *past* performance i.e. the performance during the previous year. It is questionable if the MVP will be re-awarded after the current year. There are a few factors that MS considers. If an MVP is not re-awarded as a result of lack of contribution due to time constraint, I don't think his/her expertise/opinion loses value just because MS doesn't *label* him/her as MVP. Also, I have seen MVP's spitting abusive comments in another forum. So, whats in a name?



All in all, we are responsible for our own action. In closing, I want to quote Shakespeare €¦€¦



"What's in a name? That which we call a rose


By any other word would smell as sweet."

--From Romeo and Juliet (II, ii, 1-2) <<



Epinn



"4pinoy" wrote in message ...

Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple
excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd
party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the
following.
1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building
thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel
upgrade?
2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by
the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum
guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all
the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion
even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished
precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I
may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula
structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files.
I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the
present.
thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply..


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"Epinn" wrote:

I want to add something.



Only the person asking the question sees the *entire* picture of his/her own needs (well, I am not surprised if that's not the case sometimes). A lot of times, posters answer questions based on a small piece of the puzzle. Therefore, they shouldn't be responsible for the outcome of anyone's project. The project members are responsible for *testing* the solutions suggested *in depth*.



Let's say someone gave you a wrong answer and your project fell apart and you got fired (God forbid). In what way do you expect your *guarantee* translate to? Sue someone for your loss?



About compatibility with future upgrade, I want to quote what the mutual fund companies always say, "Past performance does not guarantee future results." Maybe I/we should include this disclaimer when I/we answer posts. <g



Although I have a lot of respect for most MVP's, I agree with Bob's view. My understanding is that the award is given based on *past* performance i.e. the performance during the previous year. It is questionable if the MVP will be re-awarded after the current year. There are a few factors that MS considers. If an MVP is not re-awarded as a result of lack of contribution due to time constraint, I don't think his/her expertise/opinion loses value just because MS doesn't *label* him/her as MVP. Also, I have seen MVP's spitting abusive comments in another forum. So, whats in a name?



All in all, we are responsible for our own action. In closing, I want to quote Shakespeare €¦€¦



"What's in a name? That which we call a rose


By any other word would smell as sweet."

--From Romeo and Juliet (II, ii, 1-2) <<



Epinn



"4pinoy" wrote in message ...

Considering that we are under the Microsoft Forum Domain and as a simple
excel user. I need to know what are the guarantee we can obtain from 3rd
party Add Ins or formula building in standard excel program considering the
following.
1. Excel program always upgrade itself..Will the suggested formula building
thru 3rd party suggestions be guaranteed as integral part of any excel
upgrade?
2. If there are formula suggested under this forum that are not covered by
the Help Files samples and Function description, will this microsoft forum
guarantee the CHECKED MARKS and such checked marks will be integral to all
the succeeding microsoft Upgrades. I am not foolish to obtain any suggestion
even they are CHECKED if these suggestions are not explained or distinguished
precisely by microsoft help files considering the risk in the future that I
may not able to use the old MS files, utilizing unexplained formula
structuring by the excel programmers himself or MS Support files.
I hope you can bother to give comments since excel's future is based on the
present.
thanks for any clear and guaranteed reply..



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zzzzzzzz?

Handy for forcing a row to the bottom of a sorted list.

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Please note that

TryHarder
driller
4pinoy
art

romelsb

p



are the same person.



Please check out post #9 by Bob



http://groups.google.ca/group/micros...a3b1a3 26bdfc



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p wrote:
zzzzzzzz?

Handy for forcing a row to the bottom of a sorted list.

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Epinn,

Best to just ignore them. Responding perpetuates the problem.

Bob


"Epinn" wrote in message
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Please note that

TryHarder
driller
4pinoy
art

romelsb

p



are the same person.



Please check out post #9 by Bob



http://groups.google.ca/group/micros....functions/bro
wse_frm/thread/d93736b818eb1bb9/4cfaa3b1a326bdfc?lnk=st&q=&rnum=1&hl=en#4cfa
a3b1a326bdfc



Epinn


"Ken Johnson" wrote in message
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p wrote:
zzzzzzzz?

Handy for forcing a row to the bottom of a sorted list.

Ken Johnson




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Yes, I did say I would keep quiet. My goal was not to respond but to alert the folks out there so that they won't waste their time. What is a good way?

Epinn

"Bob Phillips" wrote in message ...
Epinn,

Best to just ignore them. Responding perpetuates the problem.

Bob


"Epinn" wrote in message
...
Please note that

TryHarder
driller
4pinoy
art

romelsb

p



are the same person.



Please check out post #9 by Bob



http://groups.google.ca/group/micros....functions/bro
wse_frm/thread/d93736b818eb1bb9/4cfaa3b1a326bdfc?lnk=st&q=&rnum=1&hl=en#4cfa
a3b1a326bdfc



Epinn


"Ken Johnson" wrote in message
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p wrote:
zzzzzzzz?

Handy for forcing a row to the bottom of a sorted list.

Ken Johnson





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There isn't one.

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HTH

Bob Phillips

(replace xxxx in the email address with gmail if mailing direct)

"Epinn" wrote in message
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Yes, I did say I would keep quiet. My goal was not to respond but to alert
the folks out there so that they won't waste their time. What is a good
way?

Epinn

"Bob Phillips" wrote in message
...
Epinn,

Best to just ignore them. Responding perpetuates the problem.

Bob


"Epinn" wrote in message
...
Please note that

TryHarder
driller
4pinoy
art

romelsb

p



are the same person.



Please check out post #9 by Bob



http://groups.google.ca/group/micros....functions/bro
wse_frm/thread/d93736b818eb1bb9/4cfaa3b1a326bdfc?lnk=st&q=&rnum=1&hl=en#4cfa
a3b1a326bdfc



Epinn


"Ken Johnson" wrote in message
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p wrote:
zzzzzzzz?

Handy for forcing a row to the bottom of a sorted list.

Ken Johnson







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Excuse me....literally - please don't mess with this thread for the MVP and
Guru's....and try not to embellish this thread for any advertising tricks.

"Epinn" wrote:

Please note that

TryHarder
driller
4pinoy
art

romelsb

p



are the same person.



Please check out post #9 by Bob



http://groups.google.ca/group/micros...a3b1a3 26bdfc



Epinn


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p wrote:
zzzzzzzz?

Handy for forcing a row to the bottom of a sorted list.

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