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ExcelTip/ExcelForum threading
I'm calling on all regular posters in this NEWSGROUP. to boycot ANY posts from ExcelTip and ExcelForum As you may have noticed the replies to the threads (when posted from those websites) will create a NEW thread. These sites must adhere to UseNet rules and correct his ASP script! Over the past weeks I've tried contacting the webmaster, (on several email addresses).. No reaction at all. The only way to see a thread correctly threaded is by their internal ThreadID, not by NNTP MessageID. It could be a deliberate tactic employed by Mr Rubin to attract traffic to his sites... but I'll assume it's just a mistake. I will no longer answer any posts from exceltip/excelforum until this is resolved. If anyone can directly contact the webmaster to have him mend his ways? keepITcool <angry |
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Hi keepitcool
I totally agree with you that this is quite annoying. I already sent two emails to the webmaster asking to correct this (but as we all see also no luck). Esp. if you don't use Outlook (or any other newsreader) it is REALLY annoying to see new threads over and over again :-( Frank "keepITcool" wrote: I'm calling on all regular posters in this NEWSGROUP. to boycot ANY posts from ExcelTip and ExcelForum As you may have noticed the replies to the threads (when posted from those websites) will create a NEW thread. These sites must adhere to UseNet rules and correct his ASP script! Over the past weeks I've tried contacting the webmaster, (on several email addresses).. No reaction at all. The only way to see a thread correctly threaded is by their internal ThreadID, not by NNTP MessageID. It could be a deliberate tactic employed by Mr Rubin to attract traffic to his sites... but I'll assume it's just a mistake. I will no longer answer any posts from exceltip/excelforum until this is resolved. If anyone can directly contact the webmaster to have him mend his ways? keepITcool <angry |
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I see the responses from the forum appearing as one level higher than they
should, but I don't see them as new threads. I doubt if Rubin writes his own forum software, so I don't know that he has control of that aspect. I would encourage you to rethink your boycott idea as you aren't punishing Rubin and I doubt it would "force" a change. While I have had no contact with him in the past, those that I know who have had contact said he was cooperative. You might contact Stephen Bullen. Besides, a lot of the posters in the forum probably have no idea what Usenet even is; so targeting them probably won't be effective. If you were posting from the forum, you could use one of the smilies keepITcool <angry would be keepITcool :angry but isn't that a seeming paradox keepITcool <== <angry <g -- Regards, Tom Ogilvy "keepITcool" wrote in message ... I'm calling on all regular posters in this NEWSGROUP. to boycot ANY posts from ExcelTip and ExcelForum As you may have noticed the replies to the threads (when posted from those websites) will create a NEW thread. These sites must adhere to UseNet rules and correct his ASP script! Over the past weeks I've tried contacting the webmaster, (on several email addresses).. No reaction at all. The only way to see a thread correctly threaded is by their internal ThreadID, not by NNTP MessageID. It could be a deliberate tactic employed by Mr Rubin to attract traffic to his sites... but I'll assume it's just a mistake. I will no longer answer any posts from exceltip/excelforum until this is resolved. If anyone can directly contact the webmaster to have him mend his ways? keepITcool <angry |
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I can't see any thread problem - messages group together fine here under OE6
(XPSP2). It only annoys me when I receive a reply without the quoted original message - grr - that's frustrating. Perhaps we should all ditch OE/Outlook/Usenet and head on over to excelforum. who needs nntp anyway... What do you say team? <g -- Rob van Gelder - http://www.vangelder.co.nz/excel "keepITcool" wrote in message ... I'm calling on all regular posters in this NEWSGROUP. to boycot ANY posts from ExcelTip and ExcelForum As you may have noticed the replies to the threads (when posted from those websites) will create a NEW thread. These sites must adhere to UseNet rules and correct his ASP script! Over the past weeks I've tried contacting the webmaster, (on several email addresses).. No reaction at all. The only way to see a thread correctly threaded is by their internal ThreadID, not by NNTP MessageID. It could be a deliberate tactic employed by Mr Rubin to attract traffic to his sites... but I'll assume it's just a mistake. I will no longer answer any posts from exceltip/excelforum until this is resolved. If anyone can directly contact the webmaster to have him mend his ways? keepITcool <angry |
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Hi Rob
I think this problem only is visible if you use for example MS CDO interface. I'm not sure what keepitcool uses though :-) Switching over to Excelforum: As I have to use a web interface from work as NNTP is prohibited doubt you'll have that much fun using only a web interface <vbg "Rob van Gelder" wrote: I can't see any thread problem - messages group together fine here under OE6 (XPSP2). It only annoys me when I receive a reply without the quoted original message - grr - that's frustrating. Perhaps we should all ditch OE/Outlook/Usenet and head on over to excelforum. who needs nntp anyway... What do you say team? <g -- Rob van Gelder - http://www.vangelder.co.nz/excel "keepITcool" wrote in message ... I'm calling on all regular posters in this NEWSGROUP. to boycot ANY posts from ExcelTip and ExcelForum As you may have noticed the replies to the threads (when posted from those websites) will create a NEW thread. These sites must adhere to UseNet rules and correct his ASP script! Over the past weeks I've tried contacting the webmaster, (on several email addresses).. No reaction at all. The only way to see a thread correctly threaded is by their internal ThreadID, not by NNTP MessageID. It could be a deliberate tactic employed by Mr Rubin to attract traffic to his sites... but I'll assume it's just a mistake. I will no longer answer any posts from exceltip/excelforum until this is resolved. If anyone can directly contact the webmaster to have him mend his ways? keepITcool <angry |
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I see the same thing as Tom. They appear to be replies to their own
messages instead of mine. Consequently, they're not colored red and I can only assume that I've missed some replies (because I've stumbled on some by accident). So the people that are getting hurt are the posters by not getting answers to their follow up questions. Instead of boycotting, you should consider prefacing every reply with a paragraph or two asking the users to put pressure on Rubin to fix it and encouraging them to connect directly to the news server. Once you get that written, I'll be sure to steal it and use it too. -- Dick Kusleika MVP - Excel Excel Blog - Daily Dose of Excel www.dicks-blog.com "Tom Ogilvy" wrote in message ... I see the responses from the forum appearing as one level higher than they should, but I don't see them as new threads. I doubt if Rubin writes his own forum software, so I don't know that he has control of that aspect. I would encourage you to rethink your boycott idea as you aren't punishing Rubin and I doubt it would "force" a change. While I have had no contact with him in the past, those that I know who have had contact said he was cooperative. You might contact Stephen Bullen. Besides, a lot of the posters in the forum probably have no idea what Usenet even is; so targeting them probably won't be effective. If you were posting from the forum, you could use one of the smilies keepITcool <angry would be keepITcool :angry but isn't that a seeming paradox keepITcool <== <angry <g -- Regards, Tom Ogilvy "keepITcool" wrote in message ... I'm calling on all regular posters in this NEWSGROUP. to boycot ANY posts from ExcelTip and ExcelForum As you may have noticed the replies to the threads (when posted from those websites) will create a NEW thread. These sites must adhere to UseNet rules and correct his ASP script! Over the past weeks I've tried contacting the webmaster, (on several email addresses).. No reaction at all. The only way to see a thread correctly threaded is by their internal ThreadID, not by NNTP MessageID. It could be a deliberate tactic employed by Mr Rubin to attract traffic to his sites... but I'll assume it's just a mistake. I will no longer answer any posts from exceltip/excelforum until this is resolved. If anyone can directly contact the webmaster to have him mend his ways? keepITcool <angry |
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hmm.... OE6 may do it's threading the MS way.. BUT
UseNet/NNTP messages should have a line in their header called "References" RFC1036 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1036.html 2.2.5. References This field lists the Message-ID's of any messages prompting the submission of this message. It is required for all follow-up messages, and forbidden when a new subject is raised. Follow-up messages from ExcelTip/ExcelForum do NOT have a References line in their header. I've traced it back to somewhere around SATURDAY 18 september 2004 Exceltip changed theirs script and signatures...) and have forgotten? to include the References line. Example: From: mangesh_yadav Subject: Compile Errors and Missing references Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 05:27:44 -0500 Message-ID: Organization: ExcelTip User-Agent: ExcelTipForum X-Newsreader: ExcelTipForum X-Originating-IP: 202.149.222.249 Newsgroups: microsoft.public.excel.programming NNTP-Posting-Host: ev1s-66-98-166-8.ev1servers.net 66.98.166.8 Path: TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl Lines: 1 Xref: TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl microsoft.public.excel.programming:559841 Thanks for the response, Tom. SNAP -- mangesh_yadav ------------------------------------------------------------------------ mangesh_yadav's Profile: http://www.excelforum.com/member.php? action=getinfo&userid=10470 View this thread: http://www.excelforum.com/showthread...hreadid=273090 BEFORE mid september: it DID included the References: line From: mangesh_yadav Subject: Date cell format Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 02:48:17 -0500 Message-ID: Organization: ExcelTip User-Agent: ExcelTipForum X-Newsreader: ExcelTipForum X-Originating-IP: 195.141.93.130 References: Newsgroups: microsoft.public.excel.programming NNTP-Posting-Host: ev1s-66-98-166-8.ev1servers.net 66.98.166.8 Path: TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl Lines: 1 Xref: TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl microsoft.public.excel.programming:543745 just use another if conditiion to check if D5 has a date or a "", and accordingly set the value. - Mangesh --- Message posted from http://www.ExcelForum.com/ keepITcool < email : keepitcool chello nl (with @ and .) < homepage: http://members.chello.nl/keepitcool "Rob van Gelder" wrote: I can't see any thread problem - messages group together fine here under OE6 (XPSP2). It only annoys me when I receive a reply without the quoted original message - grr - that's frustrating. Perhaps we should all ditch OE/Outlook/Usenet and head on over to excelforum. who needs nntp anyway... What do you say team? <g |
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Hi
as a follow-up: I contacted Roy via private email and he responded VERY fast time (So I assume my last email just did not get through). He said that they will address this issue within the next week and hope to solve it very soon. Frank "keepITcool" schrieb im Newsbeitrag ... I'm calling on all regular posters in this NEWSGROUP. to boycot ANY posts from ExcelTip and ExcelForum As you may have noticed the replies to the threads (when posted from those websites) will create a NEW thread. These sites must adhere to UseNet rules and correct his ASP script! Over the past weeks I've tried contacting the webmaster, (on several email addresses).. No reaction at all. The only way to see a thread correctly threaded is by their internal ThreadID, not by NNTP MessageID. It could be a deliberate tactic employed by Mr Rubin to attract traffic to his sites... but I'll assume it's just a mistake. I will no longer answer any posts from exceltip/excelforum until this is resolved. If anyone can directly contact the webmaster to have him mend his ways? keepITcool <angry |
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Thx.
Boycot suspended. keepITcool < email : keepitcool chello nl (with @ and .) < homepage: http://members.chello.nl/keepitcool "Frank Kabel" wrote: Hi as a follow-up: I contacted Roy via private email and he responded VERY fast time (So I assume my last email just did not get through). He said that they will address this issue within the next week and hope to solve it very soon. Frank |
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"Tom Ogilvy" skrev i melding
... I see the responses from the forum appearing as one level higher than they should, but I don't see them as new threads. Ditto that (Outlook Express). Threading, not perfect, not annoying. Best wishes Harald |
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