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Hi Guys,

I have a spreadsheet with B9:B39 containing the numbers 1 to 31, B4 = a
month and B5 = a Year.
The month and year cells are validated so the user chooses "April" etc from
a drop down list and likewise "2008" from a dropdown list in the year cell.

In a column to the left of the numbers, Ive put this formula which displays
the day of the week for the number for the selected month/year.
=IF(ISERROR(DATEVALUE(B9&"/"&$B$4&"/"&$B$5)),"n/a",TEXT(B9&"/"&$B$4&"/"&$B$5,"dddd"))
If there is no day for that year e.g. 31st Feb, then n/a is displayed.

The same formula without the error trapping is this.
=TEXT(B9&"/"&$B$4&"/"&$B$5,"dddd")

This works fine for me and for everyone in the UK. However, people in
Germany have been experiencing one of two problems.
To see the errors I sent them a version without the error trapping.

1) Instead of displaying the day of the week, €śdddd€ť is displayed.
2) #value! is displayed

When they send these spreadsheets back to me I can see these errors, but as
soon as I change the month, order is restored.

Does anyone know why this is happening (in Germany) and how to rectify it?
Ive confirmed that were all using Excel 2003.

Many thanks in advance.

Libby x
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You may be running into the problem that everyone does not format dates the
way you do. It looks like your short date formatting is dd/mm/yyyy whereas
on my system it is mm/dd/yyyy. Anyway, this formula should work on any
system...

=IF(DATE($B$5,$B$4,$B9)<=DATE($B$5,$B$4+1,0),TEXT( WEEKDAY(DATE($B$5,$B$4,$B9)),"dddd"),"n/a")

Rick


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Hi Guys,

I have a spreadsheet with B9:B39 containing the numbers 1 to 31, B4 = a
month and B5 = a Year.
The month and year cells are validated so the user chooses "April" etc
from
a drop down list and likewise "2008" from a dropdown list in the year
cell.

In a column to the left of the numbers, Ive put this formula which
displays
the day of the week for the number for the selected month/year.
=IF(ISERROR(DATEVALUE(B9&"/"&$B$4&"/"&$B$5)),"n/a",TEXT(B9&"/"&$B$4&"/"&$B$5,"dddd"))
If there is no day for that year e.g. 31st Feb, then n/a is displayed.

The same formula without the error trapping is this.
=TEXT(B9&"/"&$B$4&"/"&$B$5,"dddd")

This works fine for me and for everyone in the UK. However, people in
Germany have been experiencing one of two problems.
To see the errors I sent them a version without the error trapping.

1) Instead of displaying the day of the week, €śdddd€ť is displayed.
2) #value! is displayed

When they send these spreadsheets back to me I can see these errors, but
as
soon as I change the month, order is restored.

Does anyone know why this is happening (in Germany) and how to rectify it?
Ive confirmed that were all using Excel 2003.

Many thanks in advance.

Libby x


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The problem is more than likely due to regional date settings and the way
DATEVALUE evaluates its argument under those regional settings.

Assume you have the month names listed in the range of cells J1:J12. (this
can also be the source for the month name drop down list)

Enter this formula in A9 and copy down to A39:

=IF(TEXT(DATE(B$5,MATCH(B$4,J$1:J$12,0),B9),"mmmm" )=B$4,TEXT(DATE(B$5,MATCH(B$4,J$1:J$12,0),B9),"ddd d"),"NA")

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Hi Guys,

I have a spreadsheet with B9:B39 containing the numbers 1 to 31, B4 = a
month and B5 = a Year.
The month and year cells are validated so the user chooses "April" etc
from
a drop down list and likewise "2008" from a dropdown list in the year
cell.

In a column to the left of the numbers, I've put this formula which
displays
the day of the week for the number for the selected month/year.
=IF(ISERROR(DATEVALUE(B9&"/"&$B$4&"/"&$B$5)),"n/a",TEXT(B9&"/"&$B$4&"/"&$B$5,"dddd"))
If there is no day for that year e.g. 31st Feb, then n/a is displayed.

The same formula without the error trapping is this.
=TEXT(B9&"/"&$B$4&"/"&$B$5,"dddd")

This works fine for me and for everyone in the UK. However, people in
Germany have been experiencing one of two problems.
To see the errors I sent them a version without the error trapping.

1) Instead of displaying the day of the week, "dddd" is displayed.
2) #value! is displayed

When they send these spreadsheets back to me I can see these errors, but
as
soon as I change the month, order is restored.

Does anyone know why this is happening (in Germany) and how to rectify it?
I've confirmed that we're all using Excel 2003.

Many thanks in advance.

Libby x



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Many thanks.
These both work, although the formatting is still and issue as the dddd has
to be tttt in Germany. I've used Rick's as my validation data isn't contained
in a range.

"Libby" wrote:

Hi Guys,

I have a spreadsheet with B9:B39 containing the numbers 1 to 31, B4 = a
month and B5 = a Year.
The month and year cells are validated so the user chooses "April" etc from
a drop down list and likewise "2008" from a dropdown list in the year cell.

In a column to the left of the numbers, Ive put this formula which displays
the day of the week for the number for the selected month/year.
=IF(ISERROR(DATEVALUE(B9&"/"&$B$4&"/"&$B$5)),"n/a",TEXT(B9&"/"&$B$4&"/"&$B$5,"dddd"))
If there is no day for that year e.g. 31st Feb, then n/a is displayed.

The same formula without the error trapping is this.
=TEXT(B9&"/"&$B$4&"/"&$B$5,"dddd")

This works fine for me and for everyone in the UK. However, people in
Germany have been experiencing one of two problems.
To see the errors I sent them a version without the error trapping.

1) Instead of displaying the day of the week, €śdddd€ť is displayed.
2) #value! is displayed

When they send these spreadsheets back to me I can see these errors, but as
soon as I change the month, order is restored.

Does anyone know why this is happening (in Germany) and how to rectify it?
Ive confirmed that were all using Excel 2003.

Many thanks in advance.

Libby x

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Try this variation on my formula and see if it works (I **think** the "aaaa"
returns the day name with the localized spelling for the computer it is
being run on)...

=IF(DATE($B$5,$B$4,$B9)<=DATE($B$5,$B$4+1,0),TEXT( WEEKDAY(DATE($B$5,$B$4,$B9)),"aaaa"),"n/a")

Rick


"Libby" wrote in message
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Many thanks.
These both work, although the formatting is still and issue as the dddd
has
to be tttt in Germany. I've used Rick's as my validation data isn't
contained
in a range.

"Libby" wrote:

Hi Guys,

I have a spreadsheet with B9:B39 containing the numbers 1 to 31, B4 = a
month and B5 = a Year.
The month and year cells are validated so the user chooses "April" etc
from
a drop down list and likewise "2008" from a dropdown list in the year
cell.

In a column to the left of the numbers, Ive put this formula which
displays
the day of the week for the number for the selected month/year.
=IF(ISERROR(DATEVALUE(B9&"/"&$B$4&"/"&$B$5)),"n/a",TEXT(B9&"/"&$B$4&"/"&$B$5,"dddd"))
If there is no day for that year e.g. 31st Feb, then n/a is displayed.

The same formula without the error trapping is this.
=TEXT(B9&"/"&$B$4&"/"&$B$5,"dddd")

This works fine for me and for everyone in the UK. However, people in
Germany have been experiencing one of two problems.
To see the errors I sent them a version without the error trapping.

1) Instead of displaying the day of the week, €śdddd€ť is displayed.
2) #value! is displayed

When they send these spreadsheets back to me I can see these errors, but
as
soon as I change the month, order is restored.

Does anyone know why this is happening (in Germany) and how to rectify
it?
Ive confirmed that were all using Excel 2003.

Many thanks in advance.

Libby x




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By the way, I just noticed (mainly from looking at Biff's posting) that I
have an extra function call that, while not harmful, is completely
unnecessary... the WEEKDAY function call can be removed and the formula will
still return the correct value.

=IF(DATE($B$5,$B$4,$B9)<=DATE($B$5,$B$4+1,0),TEXT( DATE($B$5,$B$4,$B9),"aaaa"),"n/a")

Rick


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message ...
Try this variation on my formula and see if it works (I **think** the
"aaaa" returns the day name with the localized spelling for the computer
it is being run on)...

=IF(DATE($B$5,$B$4,$B9)<=DATE($B$5,$B$4+1,0),TEXT( WEEKDAY(DATE($B$5,$B$4,$B9)),"aaaa"),"n/a")

Rick


"Libby" wrote in message
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Many thanks.
These both work, although the formatting is still and issue as the dddd
has
to be tttt in Germany. I've used Rick's as my validation data isn't
contained
in a range.

"Libby" wrote:

Hi Guys,

I have a spreadsheet with B9:B39 containing the numbers 1 to 31, B4 = a
month and B5 = a Year.
The month and year cells are validated so the user chooses "April" etc
from
a drop down list and likewise "2008" from a dropdown list in the year
cell.

In a column to the left of the numbers, Ive put this formula which
displays
the day of the week for the number for the selected month/year.
=IF(ISERROR(DATEVALUE(B9&"/"&$B$4&"/"&$B$5)),"n/a",TEXT(B9&"/"&$B$4&"/"&$B$5,"dddd"))
If there is no day for that year e.g. 31st Feb, then n/a is displayed.

The same formula without the error trapping is this.
=TEXT(B9&"/"&$B$4&"/"&$B$5,"dddd")

This works fine for me and for everyone in the UK. However, people in
Germany have been experiencing one of two problems.
To see the errors I sent them a version without the error trapping.

1) Instead of displaying the day of the week, €śdddd€ť is displayed.
2) #value! is displayed

When they send these spreadsheets back to me I can see these errors, but
as
soon as I change the month, order is restored.

Does anyone know why this is happening (in Germany) and how to rectify
it?
Ive confirmed that were all using Excel 2003.

Many thanks in advance.

Libby x



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Hi Rick,

I tested it on my German Excel. It works.

Nice one.

Regards,
Bernd
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Thanks for the confirmation (I couldn't conveniently test it out here). By
the way, aaa will print out the 3-letter abbreviation of the day name (well,
3 letters here in the US, not sure if the length of the abbreviation changes
with the language or not as I have virtually no experience with
international programming issues).

Out of curiosity, given your "It works" comment, is this not an already
well-known format pattern for the TEXT function? I came across it awhile
ago, I don't remember where, in my reading up on Excel (to prepare myself
for volunteering in the Excel newsgroups) and figured it was an already
known thing by the Excel community. In thinking about it, we should probably
always be using aaa or aaaa instead of ddd or dddd as there seems to be no
downside to doing so.

Rick


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Hi Rick,

I tested it on my German Excel. It works.

Nice one.

Regards,
Bernd


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Bernd, does this work in your German version of Excel?

B4 = March (text entry, not a formatted date)
B5 = 2008 (numeric entry, not a formatted date)

=--(B4&"/"&B5)

In my U.S. English version it returns 39508 (serial date for March 1 2008)

I must be missing something from the orginal post:

B4 = a month and B5 = a Year.
The month and year cells are validated so
the user chooses "April" etc from
a drop down list and likewise "2008"
from a dropdown list in the year cell.


I interpret that to mean B4 is the TEXT name of the month but apparently my
interpretation is incorrect if Rick's formula does what the OP wants.

=IF(DATE($B$5,$B$4,$B9)<=DATE($B$5,$B$4+1,0),TEXT( WEEKDAY(DATE($B$5,$B$4,$B9)),"dddd"),"n/a")

If my interpretation was correct then the DATE functions would crash.



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Hi Rick,

I tested it on my German Excel. It works.

Nice one.

Regards,
Bernd



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"Rick Rothstein \(MVP - VB\)"
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Try this variation on my formula and see if it works (I **think** the "aaaa"
returns the day name with the localized spelling for the computer it is
being run on)...

=IF(DATE($B$5,$B$4,$B9)<=DATE($B$5,$B$4+1,0),TEXT (WEEKDAY(DATE($B$5,$B$4,$B9)),"aaaa"),"n/a")

....

May work for English and German (and other) regional settings, but I
wonder whether it'd fail for French and presumably other romance
language regional setting where 'a' stands for year.

Internationalization is a PITA.


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Try this variation on my formula and see if it works (I **think** the
"aaaa"
returns the day name with the localized spelling for the computer it is
being run on)...

=IF(DATE($B$5,$B$4,$B9)<=DATE($B$5,$B$4+1,0),TEX T(WEEKDAY(DATE($B$5,$B$4,$B9)),"aaaa"),"n/a")

...

May work for English and German (and other) regional settings, but I
wonder whether it'd fail for French and presumably other romance
language regional setting where 'a' stands for year.

Internationalization is a PITA.


That is why I'm glad that in my entire programming career, I have never had
to deal with Internalization issues... I have seen some posting regarding
various treatments required to account for it in compiled VB and it looked
like a horrible thing to have to try and deal with properly. As for the 'a'
for year issue, I guess we'll have to wait for someone with French Excel to
try it out.

By the way, for those still reading this thread... the "aaa" and "aaaa" also
works in the formatting patterns for Custom Formatting cells (with the
question about French Excel still pending).

Rick

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Even if it does work in French, it is not a panacea as although we have aaa
for day and oooo for month, we don't seem to have anything for year. Why
not, no idea, but that is MS for you.

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"Rick Rothstein (MVP - VB)" wrote in
message ...
Try this variation on my formula and see if it works (I **think** the
"aaaa"
returns the day name with the localized spelling for the computer it is
being run on)...

=IF(DATE($B$5,$B$4,$B9)<=DATE($B$5,$B$4+1,0),TE XT(WEEKDAY(DATE($B$5,$B$4,$B9)),"aaaa"),"n/a")

...

May work for English and German (and other) regional settings, but I
wonder whether it'd fail for French and presumably other romance
language regional setting where 'a' stands for year.

Internationalization is a PITA.


That is why I'm glad that in my entire programming career, I have never
had to deal with Internalization issues... I have seen some posting
regarding various treatments required to account for it in compiled VB and
it looked like a horrible thing to have to try and deal with properly. As
for the 'a' for year issue, I guess we'll have to wait for someone with
French Excel to try it out.

By the way, for those still reading this thread... the "aaa" and "aaaa"
also works in the formatting patterns for Custom Formatting cells (with
the question about French Excel still pending).

Rick



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