Hello,

I am trying to calulate days to ensure a task was done in 1 business day or
5 business days for particular groups. I know that I can use NETWORKDAYS but
here is the issue:

If a holiday is returned,within a range of dates, how do I find the next
business day and add it to tell me if i day or 5 days?

Can anyone assist??

surely you don't need to find the next business day - if you know when
the task started and when it finished, NetWorkDays will deduct the
weekends and holidays to give you the elapsed time - which you can then
use to determine if within 1 business day or 5 business days etc

I remember a good few years ago now building a very complicated formula
to calculate service time which not only had to cater for days, but
allow for a task being logged outside working hours and finished
outside working hours - it had to bring the relevent date back or
forwards as appropriate to ONLY count chargeable elapsed time!

Hmm...Maybe I was not clear...What I need to do is this...lets say I know the
start time, (Monday July 3rd 2006 the 4th is a holiday) I know that this
grouo has 5 business days to be completed. I need to then have excel give me
the date of the 5th business day excluding the holiday (Juky 4th).

Thanx again

" wrote:

surely you don't need to find the next business day - if you know when
the task started and when it finished, NetWorkDays will deduct the
weekends and holidays to give you the elapsed time - which you can then
use to determine if within 1 business day or 5 business days etc

I remember a good few years ago now building a very complicated formula
to calculate service time which not only had to cater for days, but
allow for a task being logged outside working hours and finished
outside working hours - it had to bring the relevent date back or
forwards as appropriate to ONLY count chargeable elapsed time!

Don't use NETWORKDAYS(), use WORKDAY(). Look in HELP for details.

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Kind regards,

Niek Otten

"Dmorri254" wrote in message ...
| Hello,
|
| I am trying to calulate days to ensure a task was done in 1 business day or
| 5 business days for particular groups. I know that I can use NETWORKDAYS but
| here is the issue:
|
| If a holiday is returned,within a range of dates, how do I find the next
| business day and add it to tell me if i day or 5 days?
|
| Can anyone assist??

Try something like this:

With a list of holiday dates in J1:J10
For a start date in A1
B1:
=WORKDAY(A1,4+OR(WEEKDAY(A1,2)5,ISNUMBER(MATCH(A1 ,$J$1:$J$10,0))),$J$1:$J$10)

Note_1: in case of text wrap, there are no spaces in that formula.

Note_2: That formula is part of the Analysis ToolPak addin. If you get the
#NAME! error, then the addin enabled (and possilby installed).

Is that something you can work with?

***********
Regards,
Ron

XL2002, WinXP-Pro


"Dmorri254" wrote:

Hmm...Maybe I was not clear...What I need to do is this...lets say I know the
start time, (Monday July 3rd 2006 the 4th is a holiday) I know that this
grouo has 5 business days to be completed. I need to then have excel give me
the date of the 5th business day excluding the holiday (Juky 4th).

Thanx again

" wrote:

surely you don't need to find the next business day - if you know when
the task started and when it finished, NetWorkDays will deduct the
weekends and holidays to give you the elapsed time - which you can then
use to determine if within 1 business day or 5 business days etc

I remember a good few years ago now building a very complicated formula
to calculate service time which not only had to cater for days, but
allow for a task being logged outside working hours and finished
outside working hours - it had to bring the relevent date back or
forwards as appropriate to ONLY count chargeable elapsed time!

the workday function has a 3rd argument which allows you to supply a list of
holidays - an array of holiday dates or a reference to a range that contains
a list of holiday dates

WORKDAY(start_date,days,holidays)

Easiest to Use it.

--
Regards,
Tom Ogilvy




"Ron Coderre" wrote:

Try something like this:

With a list of holiday dates in J1:J10
For a start date in A1
B1:
=WORKDAY(A1,4+OR(WEEKDAY(A1,2)5,ISNUMBER(MATCH(A1 ,$J$1:$J$10,0))),$J$1:$J$10)

Note_1: in case of text wrap, there are no spaces in that formula.

Note_2: That formula is part of the Analysis ToolPak addin. If you get the
#NAME! error, then the addin enabled (and possilby installed).

Is that something you can work with?

***********
Regards,
Ron

XL2002, WinXP-Pro


"Dmorri254" wrote:

Hmm...Maybe I was not clear...What I need to do is this...lets say I know the
start time, (Monday July 3rd 2006 the 4th is a holiday) I know that this
grouo has 5 business days to be completed. I need to then have excel give me
the date of the 5th business day excluding the holiday (Juky 4th).

Thanx again

" wrote:

surely you don't need to find the next business day - if you know when
the task started and when it finished, NetWorkDays will deduct the
weekends and holidays to give you the elapsed time - which you can then
use to determine if within 1 business day or 5 business days etc

I remember a good few years ago now building a very complicated formula
to calculate service time which not only had to cater for days, but
allow for a task being logged outside working hours and finished
outside working hours - it had to bring the relevent date back or
forwards as appropriate to ONLY count chargeable elapsed time!

Tom:
I found inconsistencies in trying to apply WORKDAY "as is" to my
interpretation of the OP's situation when the entered StartDate is on a
weekend or holiday, assuming no actual work would be done on the weekend.

If the goal is to complete a task within 5 workdays, here's what I got using
just WORKDAY(StartDate,4) and ignoring holidays (for simplicity):

StartDate Calcd_EndDate NetWorkDays
Sun, January 01, 2006 Thu, January 05, 2006 4
Mon, January 02, 2006 Fri, January 06, 2006 5
Tue, January 03, 2006 Mon, January 09, 2006 5
Wed, January 04, 2006 Tue, January 10, 2006 5
Thur, January 05, 2006 Wed, January 11, 2006 5
Fri, January 06, 2006 Thu, Jan 12, 2006 5
Sat, January 07, 2006 Thu, Jan 12, 2006 4

Consequently, I adjusted my formula to calc the 4th workday if starting on a
weekday or the 5th workday if starting on a weekend or holiday.

Of course, if I'm wrong and the startdate should always count as the 1st day
then only the WORKDAY function would be necessary.

***********
Regards,
Ron

XL2002, WinXP-Pro


"Tom Ogilvy" wrote:

the workday function has a 3rd argument which allows you to supply a list of
holidays - an array of holiday dates or a reference to a range that contains
a list of holiday dates

WORKDAY(start_date,days,holidays)

Easiest to Use it.

--
Regards,
Tom Ogilvy




"Ron Coderre" wrote:

Try something like this:

With a list of holiday dates in J1:J10
For a start date in A1
B1:
=WORKDAY(A1,4+OR(WEEKDAY(A1,2)5,ISNUMBER(MATCH(A1 ,$J$1:$J$10,0))),$J$1:$J$10)

Note_1: in case of text wrap, there are no spaces in that formula.

Note_2: That formula is part of the Analysis ToolPak addin. If you get the
#NAME! error, then the addin enabled (and possilby installed).

Is that something you can work with?

***********
Regards,
Ron

XL2002, WinXP-Pro


"Dmorri254" wrote:

Hmm...Maybe I was not clear...What I need to do is this...lets say I know the
start time, (Monday July 3rd 2006 the 4th is a holiday) I know that this
grouo has 5 business days to be completed. I need to then have excel give me
the date of the 5th business day excluding the holiday (Juky 4th).

Thanx again

" wrote:

surely you don't need to find the next business day - if you know when
the task started and when it finished, NetWorkDays will deduct the
weekends and holidays to give you the elapsed time - which you can then
use to determine if within 1 business day or 5 business days etc

I remember a good few years ago now building a very complicated formula
to calculate service time which not only had to cater for days, but
allow for a task being logged outside working hours and finished
outside working hours - it had to bring the relevent date back or
forwards as appropriate to ONLY count chargeable elapsed time!

Agreed. I didn't read your original post closely enough.

--
Regards,
Tom Ogilvy


"Ron Coderre" wrote:

Tom:
I found inconsistencies in trying to apply WORKDAY "as is" to my
interpretation of the OP's situation when the entered StartDate is on a
weekend or holiday, assuming no actual work would be done on the weekend.

If the goal is to complete a task within 5 workdays, here's what I got using
just WORKDAY(StartDate,4) and ignoring holidays (for simplicity):

StartDate Calcd_EndDate NetWorkDays
Sun, January 01, 2006 Thu, January 05, 2006 4
Mon, January 02, 2006 Fri, January 06, 2006 5
Tue, January 03, 2006 Mon, January 09, 2006 5
Wed, January 04, 2006 Tue, January 10, 2006 5
Thur, January 05, 2006 Wed, January 11, 2006 5
Fri, January 06, 2006 Thu, Jan 12, 2006 5
Sat, January 07, 2006 Thu, Jan 12, 2006 4

Consequently, I adjusted my formula to calc the 4th workday if starting on a
weekday or the 5th workday if starting on a weekend or holiday.

Of course, if I'm wrong and the startdate should always count as the 1st day
then only the WORKDAY function would be necessary.

***********
Regards,
Ron

XL2002, WinXP-Pro


"Tom Ogilvy" wrote:

the workday function has a 3rd argument which allows you to supply a list of
holidays - an array of holiday dates or a reference to a range that contains
a list of holiday dates

WORKDAY(start_date,days,holidays)

Easiest to Use it.

--
Regards,
Tom Ogilvy




"Ron Coderre" wrote:

Try something like this:

With a list of holiday dates in J1:J10
For a start date in A1
B1:
=WORKDAY(A1,4+OR(WEEKDAY(A1,2)5,ISNUMBER(MATCH(A1 ,$J$1:$J$10,0))),$J$1:$J$10)

Note_1: in case of text wrap, there are no spaces in that formula.

Note_2: That formula is part of the Analysis ToolPak addin. If you get the
#NAME! error, then the addin enabled (and possilby installed).

Is that something you can work with?

***********
Regards,
Ron

XL2002, WinXP-Pro


"Dmorri254" wrote:

Hmm...Maybe I was not clear...What I need to do is this...lets say I know the
start time, (Monday July 3rd 2006 the 4th is a holiday) I know that this
grouo has 5 business days to be completed. I need to then have excel give me
the date of the 5th business day excluding the holiday (Juky 4th).

Thanx again

" wrote:

surely you don't need to find the next business day - if you know when
the task started and when it finished, NetWorkDays will deduct the
weekends and holidays to give you the elapsed time - which you can then
use to determine if within 1 business day or 5 business days etc

I remember a good few years ago now building a very complicated formula
to calculate service time which not only had to cater for days, but
allow for a task being logged outside working hours and finished
outside working hours - it had to bring the relevent date back or
forwards as appropriate to ONLY count chargeable elapsed time!

WOW thanx much you guys...I think we came up with the answer...we created a
lookup for internal holidays..and you are correct we needed to exclude
weekends and holidays...so we used =WORKDAY(H2,5,Holidays)..against the start
time of the task...this created a target date..then to determine if the work
was done ontime, we did the following against the closed time of the task(if
is was balnk then we used
TODAY).......=IF(I2=IF(D2="",TODAY(),D2),IF(D2="" ,"Time Remaining","Sla
Met"),"Sla Not Met")

Thanx for the help

"Ron Coderre" wrote:

Tom:
I found inconsistencies in trying to apply WORKDAY "as is" to my
interpretation of the OP's situation when the entered StartDate is on a
weekend or holiday, assuming no actual work would be done on the weekend.

If the goal is to complete a task within 5 workdays, here's what I got using
just WORKDAY(StartDate,4) and ignoring holidays (for simplicity):

StartDate Calcd_EndDate NetWorkDays
Sun, January 01, 2006 Thu, January 05, 2006 4
Mon, January 02, 2006 Fri, January 06, 2006 5
Tue, January 03, 2006 Mon, January 09, 2006 5
Wed, January 04, 2006 Tue, January 10, 2006 5
Thur, January 05, 2006 Wed, January 11, 2006 5
Fri, January 06, 2006 Thu, Jan 12, 2006 5
Sat, January 07, 2006 Thu, Jan 12, 2006 4

Consequently, I adjusted my formula to calc the 4th workday if starting on a
weekday or the 5th workday if starting on a weekend or holiday.

Of course, if I'm wrong and the startdate should always count as the 1st day
then only the WORKDAY function would be necessary.

***********
Regards,
Ron

XL2002, WinXP-Pro


"Tom Ogilvy" wrote:

the workday function has a 3rd argument which allows you to supply a list of
holidays - an array of holiday dates or a reference to a range that contains
a list of holiday dates

WORKDAY(start_date,days,holidays)

Easiest to Use it.

--
Regards,
Tom Ogilvy




"Ron Coderre" wrote:

Try something like this:

With a list of holiday dates in J1:J10
For a start date in A1
B1:
=WORKDAY(A1,4+OR(WEEKDAY(A1,2)5,ISNUMBER(MATCH(A1 ,$J$1:$J$10,0))),$J$1:$J$10)

Note_1: in case of text wrap, there are no spaces in that formula.

Note_2: That formula is part of the Analysis ToolPak addin. If you get the
#NAME! error, then the addin enabled (and possilby installed).

Is that something you can work with?

***********
Regards,
Ron

XL2002, WinXP-Pro


"Dmorri254" wrote:

Hmm...Maybe I was not clear...What I need to do is this...lets say I know the
start time, (Monday July 3rd 2006 the 4th is a holiday) I know that this
grouo has 5 business days to be completed. I need to then have excel give me
the date of the 5th business day excluding the holiday (Juky 4th).

Thanx again

" wrote:

surely you don't need to find the next business day - if you know when
the task started and when it finished, NetWorkDays will deduct the
weekends and holidays to give you the elapsed time - which you can then
use to determine if within 1 business day or 5 business days etc

I remember a good few years ago now building a very complicated formula
to calculate service time which not only had to cater for days, but
allow for a task being logged outside working hours and finished
outside working hours - it had to bring the relevent date back or
forwards as appropriate to ONLY count chargeable elapsed time!

Ron Coderre Wrote:

=WORKDAY(A1,4+OR(WEEKDAY(A1,2)5,ISNUMBER(MATCH(A1 ,$J$1:$J$10,0))),$J$1:$J$10)


Hi Ron,

doesn't look like there was a need to consider start date on a holida
but if there was you could use

=WORKDAY(WORKDAY(A1,-1,J$1:J$10),5,J$1:J$10

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Hi, DL

1)On the train home from Boston, I was thinking that my original formula
could stand some improvements. You took care of that nicely.

2)Regarding:
doesn't look like there was a need to consider start date on a holiday<<

I allowed that the start date might be logged by a help desk that's takes
calls 24/7 but the SLA only includes standard workdays. Whether that's true
or not, the new formula calculates the right target date.

***********
Best Regards,
Ron

XL2002, WinXP-Pro


"daddylonglegs" wrote:


Ron Coderre Wrote:

=WORKDAY(A1,4+OR(WEEKDAY(A1,2)5,ISNUMBER(MATCH(A1 ,$J$1:$J$10,0))),$J$1:$J$10)


Hi Ron,

doesn't look like there was a need to consider start date on a holiday
but if there was you could use

=WORKDAY(WORKDAY(A1,-1,J$1:J$10),5,J$1:J$10)


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