I've posted this problem in some C# groups, but after a couple of days, I've
not gotten any useful responses. So, here goes again.

I have a C# application from which I need to open an Excel (2003
11.6255.6360 SP1) sheet, insert some rows and then leave open for the user.
I have no hidden rows or columns. I have no comments. (these facts are so
I don't get pointed to unapplicable Knowledge Base articles). Whenever I
attempt to insert a row, I get a "cannot shift objects off sheet" error,
even though all of the columns are visible and within the print area and
there are 8 blank rows visible and in the print area. Can anyone lend a
hand in figuring this out?

I'm really at wits end on this, as this is the only thing keeping me from
completing my project, and I've been at it for a number of days now.

Tim

Can I assume that you get the same error message when you insert rows
manually? Do you have any objects on the sheet? (Press F5, select Special,
click Objects and click OK). If you have some they will be selected. Press
Del to delete them (you're not going to save this so go ahead). Still have
the problem?

This will not select cell comments, which is a leading cause of this
problem. But then you don't have any so no matter.

--
Jim
"Tim Wallace" <twallace-ThisDoesNotBelong-AT-emailDOTcom wrote in message
...
| I've posted this problem in some C# groups, but after a couple of days,
I've
| not gotten any useful responses. So, here goes again.
|
| I have a C# application from which I need to open an Excel (2003
| 11.6255.6360 SP1) sheet, insert some rows and then leave open for the
user.
| I have no hidden rows or columns. I have no comments. (these facts are
so
| I don't get pointed to unapplicable Knowledge Base articles). Whenever I
| attempt to insert a row, I get a "cannot shift objects off sheet" error,
| even though all of the columns are visible and within the print area and
| there are 8 blank rows visible and in the print area. Can anyone lend a
| hand in figuring this out?
|
| I'm really at wits end on this, as this is the only thing keeping me from
| completing my project, and I've been at it for a number of days now.
|
| Tim
|
|

Hi Tim,
Should have hit enter so I think the only thing here not already
mentioned is protection.

Check your lastcell location Ctrl+End

Make sure you are not trying to insert a very large number of rows
like the entire worksheet, half the worksheet.

You did not mention anything about not having protection turned on.

Do you have shapes on the workbook.


Can you manually insert rows in the worksheet.
---
HTH,
David McRitchie, Microsoft MVP - Excel [site changed Nov. 2001]
My Excel Pages: http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/excel.htm
Search Page: http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/search.htm

"Tim Wallace" <twallace-ThisDoesNotBelong-AT-emailDOTcom wrote in message ...
I've posted this problem in some C# groups, but after a couple of days, I've
not gotten any useful responses. So, here goes again.

I have a C# application from which I need to open an Excel (2003
11.6255.6360 SP1) sheet, insert some rows and then leave open for the user.
I have no hidden rows or columns. I have no comments. (these facts are so
I don't get pointed to unapplicable Knowledge Base articles). Whenever I
attempt to insert a row, I get a "cannot shift objects off sheet" error,
even though all of the columns are visible and within the print area and
there are 8 blank rows visible and in the print area. Can anyone lend a
hand in figuring this out?

I'm really at wits end on this, as this is the only thing keeping me from
completing my project, and I've been at it for a number of days now.

Tim

When you do Ctrl+End (or EditGo-ToSpecialLastCell) where does the active
cell end up? Row 65,536? That's why it isn't allowing inserts (Excel has a
limit of 65,536 rows and 255 columns)

Excel sometimes considers a lot more of a worksheet to be "in use" than
might be apparent to the naked eye. This can be due to indescriminate
formatting, etc.

In any case, highlight "your" 1st empty row through row 65536, right click &
select "Delete". The Delete key will *not* do what you want, it will only
"clear cell contents" and won't change what Excel considers to be the "used
range". Do the same thing for any "empty" columns that you and Excel
disagree on. Save the file, close & reopen. Do Ctrl+End again until it is
what you expect. (depending on your version the close & reopen may not be
necessary).

HTH,
--
George Nicholson

Remove 'Junk' from return address.


"Tim Wallace" <twallace-ThisDoesNotBelong-AT-emailDOTcom wrote in message
...
I've posted this problem in some C# groups, but after a couple of days,
I've not gotten any useful responses. So, here goes again.

I have a C# application from which I need to open an Excel (2003
11.6255.6360 SP1) sheet, insert some rows and then leave open for the
user. I have no hidden rows or columns. I have no comments. (these facts
are so I don't get pointed to unapplicable Knowledge Base articles).
Whenever I attempt to insert a row, I get a "cannot shift objects off
sheet" error, even though all of the columns are visible and within the
print area and there are 8 blank rows visible and in the print area. Can
anyone lend a hand in figuring this out?

I'm really at wits end on this, as this is the only thing keeping me from
completing my project, and I've been at it for a number of days now.

Tim

Jim:

No, I can manually insert. I have no special objects. I still get the
error.

Tim

"Jim Rech" wrote in message
...
Can I assume that you get the same error message when you insert rows
manually? Do you have any objects on the sheet? (Press F5, select
Special,
click Objects and click OK). If you have some they will be selected.
Press
Del to delete them (you're not going to save this so go ahead). Still
have
the problem?

This will not select cell comments, which is a leading cause of this
problem. But then you don't have any so no matter.

--
Jim
"Tim Wallace" <twallace-ThisDoesNotBelong-AT-emailDOTcom wrote in message
...
| I've posted this problem in some C# groups, but after a couple of days,
I've
| not gotten any useful responses. So, here goes again.
|
| I have a C# application from which I need to open an Excel (2003
| 11.6255.6360 SP1) sheet, insert some rows and then leave open for the
user.
| I have no hidden rows or columns. I have no comments. (these facts are
so
| I don't get pointed to unapplicable Knowledge Base articles). Whenever
I
| attempt to insert a row, I get a "cannot shift objects off sheet" error,
| even though all of the columns are visible and within the print area and
| there are 8 blank rows visible and in the print area. Can anyone lend a
| hand in figuring this out?
|
| I'm really at wits end on this, as this is the only thing keeping me
from
| completing my project, and I've been at it for a number of days now.
|
| Tim
|
|

David:

I don't have any protection on. I'm only trying to insert one row (though,
eventually I'll need to insert more rows). I have no shapes. I can
manually insert rows.

Tim

"David McRitchie" wrote in message
...
Hi Tim,
Should have hit enter so I think the only thing here not already
mentioned is protection.

Check your lastcell location Ctrl+End

Make sure you are not trying to insert a very large number of rows
like the entire worksheet, half the worksheet.

You did not mention anything about not having protection turned on.

Do you have shapes on the workbook.


Can you manually insert rows in the worksheet.
---
HTH,
David McRitchie, Microsoft MVP - Excel [site changed Nov. 2001]
My Excel Pages: http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/excel.htm
Search Page: http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/search.htm

"Tim Wallace" <twallace-ThisDoesNotBelong-AT-emailDOTcom wrote in message
...
I've posted this problem in some C# groups, but after a couple of days,
I've
not gotten any useful responses. So, here goes again.

I have a C# application from which I need to open an Excel (2003
11.6255.6360 SP1) sheet, insert some rows and then leave open for the
user.
I have no hidden rows or columns. I have no comments. (these facts are
so
I don't get pointed to unapplicable Knowledge Base articles). Whenever I
attempt to insert a row, I get a "cannot shift objects off sheet" error,
even though all of the columns are visible and within the print area and
there are 8 blank rows visible and in the print area. Can anyone lend a
hand in figuring this out?

I'm really at wits end on this, as this is the only thing keeping me from
completing my project, and I've been at it for a number of days now.

Tim

If I Ctrl+End, the active cell is the last cell of what I entered. I
already did the "clear" trick; no luck.

Tim

"George Nicholson" wrote in message
...
When you do Ctrl+End (or EditGo-ToSpecialLastCell) where does the
active cell end up? Row 65,536? That's why it isn't allowing inserts
(Excel has a limit of 65,536 rows and 255 columns)

Excel sometimes considers a lot more of a worksheet to be "in use" than
might be apparent to the naked eye. This can be due to indescriminate
formatting, etc.

In any case, highlight "your" 1st empty row through row 65536, right click
& select "Delete". The Delete key will *not* do what you want, it will
only "clear cell contents" and won't change what Excel considers to be
the "used range". Do the same thing for any "empty" columns that you and
Excel disagree on. Save the file, close & reopen. Do Ctrl+End again until
it is what you expect. (depending on your version the close & reopen may
not be necessary).

HTH,
--
George Nicholson

Remove 'Junk' from return address.


"Tim Wallace" <twallace-ThisDoesNotBelong-AT-emailDOTcom wrote in message
...
I've posted this problem in some C# groups, but after a couple of days,
I've not gotten any useful responses. So, here goes again.

I have a C# application from which I need to open an Excel (2003
11.6255.6360 SP1) sheet, insert some rows and then leave open for the
user. I have no hidden rows or columns. I have no comments. (these
facts are so I don't get pointed to unapplicable Knowledge Base
articles). Whenever I attempt to insert a row, I get a "cannot shift
objects off sheet" error, even though all of the columns are visible and
within the print area and there are 8 blank rows visible and in the print
area. Can anyone lend a hand in figuring this out?

I'm really at wits end on this, as this is the only thing keeping me from
completing my project, and I've been at it for a number of days now.

Tim

If you don't get the error message when inserting manually, but do get it
when inserting via code, then the code becomes prime suspect.
You might consider posting it.

--
George Nicholson

Remove 'Junk' from return address.



"Tim Wallace" <twallace-ThisDoesNotBelong-AT-emailDOTcom wrote in message
...
Jim:

No, I can manually insert. I have no special objects. I still get the
error.

Tim

"Jim Rech" wrote in message
...
Can I assume that you get the same error message when you insert rows
manually? Do you have any objects on the sheet? (Press F5, select
Special,
click Objects and click OK). If you have some they will be selected.
Press
Del to delete them (you're not going to save this so go ahead). Still
have
the problem?

This will not select cell comments, which is a leading cause of this
problem. But then you don't have any so no matter.

--
Jim
"Tim Wallace" <twallace-ThisDoesNotBelong-AT-emailDOTcom wrote in
message
...
| I've posted this problem in some C# groups, but after a couple of days,
I've
| not gotten any useful responses. So, here goes again.
|
| I have a C# application from which I need to open an Excel (2003
| 11.6255.6360 SP1) sheet, insert some rows and then leave open for the
user.
| I have no hidden rows or columns. I have no comments. (these facts
are
so
| I don't get pointed to unapplicable Knowledge Base articles). Whenever
I
| attempt to insert a row, I get a "cannot shift objects off sheet"
error,
| even though all of the columns are visible and within the print area
and
| there are 8 blank rows visible and in the print area. Can anyone lend
a
| hand in figuring this out?
|
| I'm really at wits end on this, as this is the only thing keeping me
from
| completing my project, and I've been at it for a number of days now.
|
| Tim
|
|

Here is my code, boiled down to the pertinent parts:

<snippet
Microsoft.Office.Interop.Excel.ApplicationClass excel = new
Microsoft.Office.Interop.Excel.ApplicationClass();

// open the template
Microsoft.Office.Interop.Excel.Workbook workbook =
excel.Workbooks.Open(_sTimesheetTemplate, System.Type.Missing, false,
System.Type.Missing, System.Type.Missing, System.Type.Missing, true,
System.Type.Missing, System.Type.Missing, true, System.Type.Missing,
System.Type.Missing, false, System.Type.Missing, System.Type.Missing);

if( workbook != null )
{
// get reference to the worksheet
Microsoft.Office.Interop.Excel.Worksheet sheet =
(Microsoft.Office.Interop.Excel.Worksheet)excel.Ac tiveSheet;

// insert a row after the current row (iRow starts where the first line
item should go and increments for additional rows)
sheet.Rows.Insert( Microsoft.Office.Interop.Excel.XlDirection.xlUp,
iRow )

</snippet

As you can see, nothing exotic is happening.

Tim

"George Nicholson" wrote in message
...
If you don't get the error message when inserting manually, but do get it
when inserting via code, then the code becomes prime suspect.
You might consider posting it.

--
George Nicholson

Remove 'Junk' from return address.



"Tim Wallace" <twallace-ThisDoesNotBelong-AT-emailDOTcom wrote in message
...
Jim:

No, I can manually insert. I have no special objects. I still get the
error.

Tim

"Jim Rech" wrote in message
...
Can I assume that you get the same error message when you insert rows
manually? Do you have any objects on the sheet? (Press F5, select
Special,
click Objects and click OK). If you have some they will be selected.
Press
Del to delete them (you're not going to save this so go ahead). Still
have
the problem?

This will not select cell comments, which is a leading cause of this
problem. But then you don't have any so no matter.

--
Jim
"Tim Wallace" <twallace-ThisDoesNotBelong-AT-emailDOTcom wrote in
message
...
| I've posted this problem in some C# groups, but after a couple of
days,
I've
| not gotten any useful responses. So, here goes again.
|
| I have a C# application from which I need to open an Excel (2003
| 11.6255.6360 SP1) sheet, insert some rows and then leave open for the
user.
| I have no hidden rows or columns. I have no comments. (these facts
are
so
| I don't get pointed to unapplicable Knowledge Base articles).
Whenever I
| attempt to insert a row, I get a "cannot shift objects off sheet"
error,
| even though all of the columns are visible and within the print area
and
| there are 8 blank rows visible and in the print area. Can anyone lend
a
| hand in figuring this out?
|
| I'm really at wits end on this, as this is the only thing keeping me
from
| completing my project, and I've been at it for a number of days now.
|
| Tim
|
|

I'm not that familiar with .Net but in context of an Insert
"XlDirection.xlUp" is jumping up and sticking out its tongue at me (i.e., it
simply looks wrong).

"Up" might be an OK "shift direction" command when Deleting, but not when
Inserting. Example: if you are on row 2 and tried to insert a row "up" where
would you expect row 1 to go? Off the sheet? As I recall that's pretty much
what your original error message told you it couldn't do.

The Excel VBA Help entry for the Insert method says the *valid*
xlInsertShiftDirection constant options for use with the Insert method are
xlShiftToRight or xlShiftDown. In the context of Inserting a Row, only
xlShiftDown would seem to make any sense. I can only make an educated guess
that the equivalent via Interop is xlDown.

HTH,
--
George Nicholson

Remove 'Junk' from return address.



"Tim Wallace" <twallace-ThisDoesNotBelong-AT-emailDOTcom wrote in message
...
Here is my code, boiled down to the pertinent parts:

<snippet
Microsoft.Office.Interop.Excel.ApplicationClass excel = new
Microsoft.Office.Interop.Excel.ApplicationClass();

// open the template
Microsoft.Office.Interop.Excel.Workbook workbook =
excel.Workbooks.Open(_sTimesheetTemplate, System.Type.Missing, false,
System.Type.Missing, System.Type.Missing, System.Type.Missing, true,
System.Type.Missing, System.Type.Missing, true, System.Type.Missing,
System.Type.Missing, false, System.Type.Missing, System.Type.Missing);

if( workbook != null )
{
// get reference to the worksheet
Microsoft.Office.Interop.Excel.Worksheet sheet =
(Microsoft.Office.Interop.Excel.Worksheet)excel.Ac tiveSheet;

// insert a row after the current row (iRow starts where the first line
item should go and increments for additional rows)
sheet.Rows.Insert( Microsoft.Office.Interop.Excel.XlDirection.xlUp,
iRow )

</snippet

As you can see, nothing exotic is happening.

Tim

"George Nicholson" wrote in message
...
If you don't get the error message when inserting manually, but do get it
when inserting via code, then the code becomes prime suspect.
You might consider posting it.

--
George Nicholson

Remove 'Junk' from return address.



"Tim Wallace" <twallace-ThisDoesNotBelong-AT-emailDOTcom wrote in
message ...
Jim:

No, I can manually insert. I have no special objects. I still get the
error.

Tim

"Jim Rech" wrote in message
...
Can I assume that you get the same error message when you insert rows
manually? Do you have any objects on the sheet? (Press F5, select
Special,
click Objects and click OK). If you have some they will be selected.
Press
Del to delete them (you're not going to save this so go ahead). Still
have
the problem?

This will not select cell comments, which is a leading cause of this
problem. But then you don't have any so no matter.

--
Jim
"Tim Wallace" <twallace-ThisDoesNotBelong-AT-emailDOTcom wrote in
message
...
| I've posted this problem in some C# groups, but after a couple of
days,
I've
| not gotten any useful responses. So, here goes again.
|
| I have a C# application from which I need to open an Excel (2003
| 11.6255.6360 SP1) sheet, insert some rows and then leave open for the
user.
| I have no hidden rows or columns. I have no comments. (these facts
are
so
| I don't get pointed to unapplicable Knowledge Base articles).
Whenever I
| attempt to insert a row, I get a "cannot shift objects off sheet"
error,
| even though all of the columns are visible and within the print area
and
| there are 8 blank rows visible and in the print area. Can anyone
lend a
| hand in figuring this out?
|
| I'm really at wits end on this, as this is the only thing keeping me
from
| completing my project, and I've been at it for a number of days now.
|
| Tim
|
|