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Transition from Excel 2003 to 2007 (toolbars, etc.)
Where does one find the toolbars? I can't find the drawing toolbar or any of
the others. I am a roughly 15 year user of Excel and I am completely lost on the 2007 version. My company recently forced everyone to have Office 2007 so none of us has a choice to go back to 2003. I just can't understand why did Microsoft have to "fix" Excel 2003 with 2007, when it wasn't "broken" in the first place. What is the point of this "ribbon" nonsense? AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!! |
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There are no toolbars anymore in Excel 2007
Maybe this will help http://www.rondebruin.nl/0307commands.htm I just can't understand why did Microsoft have to "fix" Excel 2003 with 2007, when it wasn't "broken" in the first place. What is the point of this "ribbon" nonsense? The Ribbon is a result from all the feedback Not so bad but you must invest time before you like it See the 2007 section on my site if you want to know more -- Regards Ron de Bruin http://www.rondebruin.nl/tips.htm "Austin" wrote in message ... Where does one find the toolbars? I can't find the drawing toolbar or any of the others. I am a roughly 15 year user of Excel and I am completely lost on the 2007 version. My company recently forced everyone to have Office 2007 so none of us has a choice to go back to 2003. I just can't understand why did Microsoft have to "fix" Excel 2003 with 2007, when it wasn't "broken" in the first place. What is the point of this "ribbon" nonsense? AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!! |
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These will help:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/he...491511033.aspx online interactive 03 to 07 guide http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en download interactive 03 to 07 guide http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/ex...101030621033#3 07 ribbon mapping workbook I know it may not seem like it now, but it really is an improvement. Once you don't have to look for stuff, it's even more efficient. As for the drawing stuff... when you have a graphic selected (add anything from the illustrations group on the insert tab) the appropriate tabs will appear. "Austin" wrote: Where does one find the toolbars? I can't find the drawing toolbar or any of the others. I am a roughly 15 year user of Excel and I am completely lost on the 2007 version. My company recently forced everyone to have Office 2007 so none of us has a choice to go back to 2003. I just can't understand why did Microsoft have to "fix" Excel 2003 with 2007, when it wasn't "broken" in the first place. What is the point of this "ribbon" nonsense? AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!! |
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Thanks for the help Boni,
I know that in time we can learn to become comfortable with anything, but I have to say it's a tremendous step backward in ease of use, IMHO. That being said, I certainly do appreciate your helpful links. I have played around with the "views" in 2007, but I can't say that I find it much easier to find things... it seems HIGHLY counterintuitive to me. With regard to the drawing toolbar, are you saying I have to actually have a graphic selected first before I can start using drawing tools? No scratch-built drawing of diagrams, objects, or other items? That is quite different indeed. Hmmmm. I'll have to figure out some alternatives. I'll definitely pass along your links to other users who ask me about toolbars and such in my job. Thanks! :) Some background on that last bit: I work on the help desk for Merrill Lynch and the decision was made in the last few months to "upgrade" to Office 2007. Unfortunately the decision to train people on it was not made on such a broad scale. I've had some limited time to poke around in 2007 when remoting into another user's PC to help with a spreadsheet, but only enough experience to frustrate myself and the end user. :-\ I'd hazard a guess that most of the corporate office users have it now, and half of the branch offices. That's here in the US at least. Overall we have about 60,000 employees and we're starting to get a LOT of calls from people on Office 2007. When people ask us where to find, for example, the drawing toolbar - we're at a loss. Or when we try to remote into their PCs to help them with a chart and we find that we can't format it very easily, we end up looking like idiots. Actually I AM an idiot, but that's beside the point. Bottom line, the perception we're getting from our thousands of users on a daily basis is pretty negative. Sorry to be such a party pooper about it - I definitely appreciate your attempt to help. Thanks again! -Austin "BoniM" wrote: These will help: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/he...491511033.aspx online interactive 03 to 07 guide http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en download interactive 03 to 07 guide http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/ex...101030621033#3 07 ribbon mapping workbook I know it may not seem like it now, but it really is an improvement. Once you don't have to look for stuff, it's even more efficient. As for the drawing stuff... when you have a graphic selected (add anything from the illustrations group on the insert tab) the appropriate tabs will appear. "Austin" wrote: Where does one find the toolbars? I can't find the drawing toolbar or any of the others. I am a roughly 15 year user of Excel and I am completely lost on the 2007 version. My company recently forced everyone to have Office 2007 so none of us has a choice to go back to 2003. I just can't understand why did Microsoft have to "fix" Excel 2003 with 2007, when it wasn't "broken" in the first place. What is the point of this "ribbon" nonsense? AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!! |
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The Drawing toolbar stuff can be found on the Insert tab in the
Illustrations group. -- Biff Microsoft Excel MVP "Austin" wrote in message ... Thanks for the help Boni, I know that in time we can learn to become comfortable with anything, but I have to say it's a tremendous step backward in ease of use, IMHO. That being said, I certainly do appreciate your helpful links. I have played around with the "views" in 2007, but I can't say that I find it much easier to find things... it seems HIGHLY counterintuitive to me. With regard to the drawing toolbar, are you saying I have to actually have a graphic selected first before I can start using drawing tools? No scratch-built drawing of diagrams, objects, or other items? That is quite different indeed. Hmmmm. I'll have to figure out some alternatives. I'll definitely pass along your links to other users who ask me about toolbars and such in my job. Thanks! :) Some background on that last bit: I work on the help desk for Merrill Lynch and the decision was made in the last few months to "upgrade" to Office 2007. Unfortunately the decision to train people on it was not made on such a broad scale. I've had some limited time to poke around in 2007 when remoting into another user's PC to help with a spreadsheet, but only enough experience to frustrate myself and the end user. :-\ I'd hazard a guess that most of the corporate office users have it now, and half of the branch offices. That's here in the US at least. Overall we have about 60,000 employees and we're starting to get a LOT of calls from people on Office 2007. When people ask us where to find, for example, the drawing toolbar - we're at a loss. Or when we try to remote into their PCs to help them with a chart and we find that we can't format it very easily, we end up looking like idiots. Actually I AM an idiot, but that's beside the point. Bottom line, the perception we're getting from our thousands of users on a daily basis is pretty negative. Sorry to be such a party pooper about it - I definitely appreciate your attempt to help. Thanks again! -Austin "BoniM" wrote: These will help: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/he...491511033.aspx online interactive 03 to 07 guide http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en download interactive 03 to 07 guide http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/ex...101030621033#3 07 ribbon mapping workbook I know it may not seem like it now, but it really is an improvement. Once you don't have to look for stuff, it's even more efficient. As for the drawing stuff... when you have a graphic selected (add anything from the illustrations group on the insert tab) the appropriate tabs will appear. "Austin" wrote: Where does one find the toolbars? I can't find the drawing toolbar or any of the others. I am a roughly 15 year user of Excel and I am completely lost on the 2007 version. My company recently forced everyone to have Office 2007 so none of us has a choice to go back to 2003. I just can't understand why did Microsoft have to "fix" Excel 2003 with 2007, when it wasn't "broken" in the first place. What is the point of this "ribbon" nonsense? AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!! |
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You still have all the drawing tools (and then some) that we had before...
start on the Insert tab, Illustrations group. It's just that the drawing tools don't appear unless an object is selected, very similar to the behavior of toolbars in 2003. I definitly understand the negative feedback you're getting... at least a little trainging would have been helpful. :-) I remember how frustrating it was to not know how to do something I had done without thinking for years. This a good place to come... remember some of us have already gotten thru the frustrating part and are more than happy to help. Email me at boni at msn dot com and I'll send you some transition help stuff when I get to work Monday... maybe ya'll could start sending out an Office Tip of the Day or something to help people get thru the transition. Starting with the ribbon guides? :-) At the very least, I wish you luck... "Austin" wrote: Thanks for the help Boni, I know that in time we can learn to become comfortable with anything, but I have to say it's a tremendous step backward in ease of use, IMHO. That being said, I certainly do appreciate your helpful links. I have played around with the "views" in 2007, but I can't say that I find it much easier to find things... it seems HIGHLY counterintuitive to me. With regard to the drawing toolbar, are you saying I have to actually have a graphic selected first before I can start using drawing tools? No scratch-built drawing of diagrams, objects, or other items? That is quite different indeed. Hmmmm. I'll have to figure out some alternatives. I'll definitely pass along your links to other users who ask me about toolbars and such in my job. Thanks! :) Some background on that last bit: I work on the help desk for Merrill Lynch and the decision was made in the last few months to "upgrade" to Office 2007. Unfortunately the decision to train people on it was not made on such a broad scale. I've had some limited time to poke around in 2007 when remoting into another user's PC to help with a spreadsheet, but only enough experience to frustrate myself and the end user. :-\ I'd hazard a guess that most of the corporate office users have it now, and half of the branch offices. That's here in the US at least. Overall we have about 60,000 employees and we're starting to get a LOT of calls from people on Office 2007. When people ask us where to find, for example, the drawing toolbar - we're at a loss. Or when we try to remote into their PCs to help them with a chart and we find that we can't format it very easily, we end up looking like idiots. Actually I AM an idiot, but that's beside the point. Bottom line, the perception we're getting from our thousands of users on a daily basis is pretty negative. Sorry to be such a party pooper about it - I definitely appreciate your attempt to help. Thanks again! -Austin "BoniM" wrote: These will help: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/he...491511033.aspx online interactive 03 to 07 guide http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en download interactive 03 to 07 guide http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/ex...101030621033#3 07 ribbon mapping workbook I know it may not seem like it now, but it really is an improvement. Once you don't have to look for stuff, it's even more efficient. As for the drawing stuff... when you have a graphic selected (add anything from the illustrations group on the insert tab) the appropriate tabs will appear. "Austin" wrote: Where does one find the toolbars? I can't find the drawing toolbar or any of the others. I am a roughly 15 year user of Excel and I am completely lost on the 2007 version. My company recently forced everyone to have Office 2007 so none of us has a choice to go back to 2003. I just can't understand why did Microsoft have to "fix" Excel 2003 with 2007, when it wasn't "broken" in the first place. What is the point of this "ribbon" nonsense? AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!! |
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Hi Austin,
BTW if you find difficult to search command in the Ribbon (Word, Excel and PowerPoint) , there is a nice addon "Search Commands" by Microsoft Office Labs, you can download from below site http://www.officelabs.com/Pages/Default.aspx Enjoy Excel-2007. Regards, Shailesh Shah http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/ If You Can't Excel with Talent, Triumph with Effort. Free Addins Office Menu-2003 for Office-2007 http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/menuaddins "Austin" wrote in message ... Thanks for the help Boni, I know that in time we can learn to become comfortable with anything, but I have to say it's a tremendous step backward in ease of use, IMHO. That being said, I certainly do appreciate your helpful links. I have played around with the "views" in 2007, but I can't say that I find it much easier to find things... it seems HIGHLY counterintuitive to me. With regard to the drawing toolbar, are you saying I have to actually have a graphic selected first before I can start using drawing tools? No scratch-built drawing of diagrams, objects, or other items? That is quite different indeed. Hmmmm. I'll have to figure out some alternatives. I'll definitely pass along your links to other users who ask me about toolbars and such in my job. Thanks! :) Some background on that last bit: I work on the help desk for Merrill Lynch and the decision was made in the last few months to "upgrade" to Office 2007. Unfortunately the decision to train people on it was not made on such a broad scale. I've had some limited time to poke around in 2007 when remoting into another user's PC to help with a spreadsheet, but only enough experience to frustrate myself and the end user. :-\ I'd hazard a guess that most of the corporate office users have it now, and half of the branch offices. That's here in the US at least. Overall we have about 60,000 employees and we're starting to get a LOT of calls from people on Office 2007. When people ask us where to find, for example, the drawing toolbar - we're at a loss. Or when we try to remote into their PCs to help them with a chart and we find that we can't format it very easily, we end up looking like idiots. Actually I AM an idiot, but that's beside the point. Bottom line, the perception we're getting from our thousands of users on a daily basis is pretty negative. Sorry to be such a party pooper about it - I definitely appreciate your attempt to help. Thanks again! -Austin "BoniM" wrote: These will help: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/he...491511033.aspx online interactive 03 to 07 guide http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en download interactive 03 to 07 guide http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/ex...101030621033#3 07 ribbon mapping workbook I know it may not seem like it now, but it really is an improvement. Once you don't have to look for stuff, it's even more efficient. As for the drawing stuff... when you have a graphic selected (add anything from the illustrations group on the insert tab) the appropriate tabs will appear. "Austin" wrote: Where does one find the toolbars? I can't find the drawing toolbar or any of the others. I am a roughly 15 year user of Excel and I am completely lost on the 2007 version. My company recently forced everyone to have Office 2007 so none of us has a choice to go back to 2003. I just can't understand why did Microsoft have to "fix" Excel 2003 with 2007, when it wasn't "broken" in the first place. What is the point of this "ribbon" nonsense? AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!! |
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Hi Austin,
There is a simpler SOLUTION for less than $20 that fits everyone's needs! ToolbarToggle created an add-in for Word, Excel and PowerPoint that brings back the original Office 2003 menus and toolbars into Office 2007 for less than $20. Besides floating and docking the menus and toolbars anwhere, you can turn the Ribbon on or off, turn the commandbars and menus on or off as well REPLACE the Ribbon entirely. Please try the demo let us know if you feel this helps solve your problems. You can download ToolbarToggle from: http://www.toolbartoggle.com |
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