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I often find symbols in MS documents I'd like to remove or replace with
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Jeff wrote on Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:10:05 -0700:
JI I often find symbols in MS documents I'd like to remove or JI replace with something else. JI Is there a way to detect the underlying code of a symbol or JI special character to use for "Search and Replace"? Can't you copy the character into the Find box? James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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there are methods for detecting special characters and symbols. when I
perform cut and pastes I sometimes find it is necessary to first paste the data into notepad. then copy again from Notepad to final location. I use this when copying within Word as well as between many applications (not only MS). it is a good way of filtering data. There are lots of special character that can be in the data. Probably too many to be detected in a worksheet function. This task would be bettter writing in VBA macro. "Jeff Ingman" wrote: I often find symbols in MS documents I'd like to remove or replace with something else. Is there a way to detect the underlying code of a symbol or special character to use for "Search and Replace"? |
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If you put the particular character in a cell then use a formula like
=CODE(A1) you will get the number for the character set for your computer, so if you have a space it will return 32 =CHAR(32) will return a space so if you want to replace CHAR(32) do ctrl + h, then in the find what box hold down the alt key while typing 032 on the numpad and the leave replace with blank the space(s) should be gone -- Regards, Peo Sjoblom "Jeff Ingman" wrote in message ... I often find symbols in MS documents I'd like to remove or replace with something else. Is there a way to detect the underlying code of a symbol or special character to use for "Search and Replace"? |
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Yes you can put the character into a find. I also do this a lot and replace
with nothing. There are lot of different special characters and rather than search and replace I start with going to notepad because it will get rid of multiple different types of special character in one step. You asked if it can be detected. "James Silverton" wrote: Jeff wrote on Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:10:05 -0700: JI I often find symbols in MS documents I'd like to remove or JI replace with something else. JI Is there a way to detect the underlying code of a symbol or JI special character to use for "Search and Replace"? Can't you copy the character into the Find box? James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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=CODE(MID(A1,n,1)) where you are trying to find the code for the nth
character in cell A1. -- David Biddulph "Jeff Ingman" wrote in message ... I often find symbols in MS documents I'd like to remove or replace with something else. Is there a way to detect the underlying code of a symbol or special character to use for "Search and Replace"? |
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You're referring to *MS* documents in your post.
Since this is an XL group, this is what I do to find the code in XL sheets: =Code(A1) Will return the code for the *first* character in the cell A1, whether visible or invisible. If you know, or suspect a character (invisible) is elsewhere in the cell, you can use something like this: =CODE(MID(A1,2,1)) Where you're referencing the *second* character, or =CODE(MID(A1,3,1)) Where you're referencing the *third* character, And so on ... ! -- HTH, RD --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please keep all correspondence within the NewsGroup, so all may benefit ! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Jeff Ingman" wrote in message ... I often find symbols in MS documents I'd like to remove or replace with something else. Is there a way to detect the underlying code of a symbol or special character to use for "Search and Replace"? |
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Thank you for your post Peo.
I tried your suggestion and got "13" as the code for the symbol I wanted to remove. I opened the search/replace box and typed Alt 013 and hit Replace All. I got an error message saying "Microsoft Office Excel could not find any data to replace...." "Peo Sjoblom" wrote: If you put the particular character in a cell then use a formula like =CODE(A1) you will get the number for the character set for your computer, so if you have a space it will return 32 =CHAR(32) will return a space so if you want to replace CHAR(32) do ctrl + h, then in the find what box hold down the alt key while typing 032 on the numpad and the leave replace with blank the space(s) should be gone -- Regards, Peo Sjoblom "Jeff Ingman" wrote in message ... I often find symbols in MS documents I'd like to remove or replace with something else. Is there a way to detect the underlying code of a symbol or special character to use for "Search and Replace"? |
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Interesting, it works for any other characters like char(10) (carriage
return) Anyway if you do this on a regular basis you'd be better of using code, Sub RemoveChr13() Application.ScreenUpdating = False Application.Calculation = xlCalculationManual Selection.SpecialCells(xlConstants).Replace What:=Chr(13), _ Replacement:="", _ LookAt:=xlPart, SearchOrder:=xlByColumns, MatchCase:=True Application.Calculation = xlCalculationAutomatic Application.ScreenUpdating = True End Sub Instructions on how to install macros http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/install.htm -- Regards, Peo Sjoblom "Jeff Ingman" wrote in message ... Thank you for your post Peo. I tried your suggestion and got "13" as the code for the symbol I wanted to remove. I opened the search/replace box and typed Alt 013 and hit Replace All. I got an error message saying "Microsoft Office Excel could not find any data to replace...." "Peo Sjoblom" wrote: If you put the particular character in a cell then use a formula like =CODE(A1) you will get the number for the character set for your computer, so if you have a space it will return 32 =CHAR(32) will return a space so if you want to replace CHAR(32) do ctrl + h, then in the find what box hold down the alt key while typing 032 on the numpad and the leave replace with blank the space(s) should be gone -- Regards, Peo Sjoblom "Jeff Ingman" wrote in message ... I often find symbols in MS documents I'd like to remove or replace with something else. Is there a way to detect the underlying code of a symbol or special character to use for "Search and Replace"? |
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David wrote on Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:15:09 +0100:
DB =CODE(MID(A1,n,1)) where you are trying to find the code DB for the nth character in cell A1. DB -- DB David Biddulph DB "Jeff Ingman" wrote DB in message ... ?? I often find symbols in MS documents I'd like to remove or ?? replace with something else. ?? ?? Is there a way to detect the underlying code of a symbol ?? or special character to use for "Search and Replace"? My earlier answer was to the question of *replacing* an unknown character. If you want to know what actually was the unknown, I don't know an answer offhand. CODE(MID(A1,1,1), say, in Excel 2002 will not always work. To take a simple example, I inserted the Russian character "yah" (R written backwards), 042F in Word, copied it and pasted it into Excel. CODE(MID(A1,1,1)) gave 63. I'm not sure what that means since it's not even MOD(HEX2DEC("042F"),256) as I might have suspected. James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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Also
=CLEAN(A1) removes those characters, so you can use that formula then paste special as values over the old data -- Regards, Peo Sjoblom "Peo Sjoblom" wrote in message ... Interesting, it works for any other characters like char(10) (carriage return) Anyway if you do this on a regular basis you'd be better of using code, Sub RemoveChr13() Application.ScreenUpdating = False Application.Calculation = xlCalculationManual Selection.SpecialCells(xlConstants).Replace What:=Chr(13), _ Replacement:="", _ LookAt:=xlPart, SearchOrder:=xlByColumns, MatchCase:=True Application.Calculation = xlCalculationAutomatic Application.ScreenUpdating = True End Sub Instructions on how to install macros http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/install.htm -- Regards, Peo Sjoblom "Jeff Ingman" wrote in message ... Thank you for your post Peo. I tried your suggestion and got "13" as the code for the symbol I wanted to remove. I opened the search/replace box and typed Alt 013 and hit Replace All. I got an error message saying "Microsoft Office Excel could not find any data to replace...." "Peo Sjoblom" wrote: If you put the particular character in a cell then use a formula like =CODE(A1) you will get the number for the character set for your computer, so if you have a space it will return 32 =CHAR(32) will return a space so if you want to replace CHAR(32) do ctrl + h, then in the find what box hold down the alt key while typing 032 on the numpad and the leave replace with blank the space(s) should be gone -- Regards, Peo Sjoblom "Jeff Ingman" wrote in message ... I often find symbols in MS documents I'd like to remove or replace with something else. Is there a way to detect the underlying code of a symbol or special character to use for "Search and Replace"? |
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13 is a carriage return.
-- David Biddulph "Jeff Ingman" wrote in message ... Thank you for your post Peo. I tried your suggestion and got "13" as the code for the symbol I wanted to remove. I opened the search/replace box and typed Alt 013 and hit Replace All. I got an error message saying "Microsoft Office Excel could not find any data to replace...." "Peo Sjoblom" wrote: If you put the particular character in a cell then use a formula like =CODE(A1) you will get the number for the character set for your computer, so if you have a space it will return 32 =CHAR(32) will return a space so if you want to replace CHAR(32) do ctrl + h, then in the find what box hold down the alt key while typing 032 on the numpad and the leave replace with blank the space(s) should be gone -- Regards, Peo Sjoblom "Jeff Ingman" wrote in message ... I often find symbols in MS documents I'd like to remove or replace with something else. Is there a way to detect the underlying code of a symbol or special character to use for "Search and Replace"? |
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James...
No this particular character will not copy/paste. "James Silverton" wrote: Jeff wrote on Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:10:05 -0700: JI I often find symbols in MS documents I'd like to remove or JI replace with something else. JI Is there a way to detect the underlying code of a symbol or JI special character to use for "Search and Replace"? Can't you copy the character into the Find box? James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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Jeff wrote on Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:10:05 -0700:
JI No this particular character will not copy/paste. JI "James Silverton" wrote: ?? Jeff wrote on Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:10:05 -0700: ?? JI I often find symbols in MS documents I'd like to remove JI or replace with something else. ?? JI Is there a way to detect the underlying code of a symbol JI or special character to use for "Search and Replace"? ?? ?? Can't you copy the character into the Find box? If you can't copy or paste it, you've got me beat :-) I think of a way to set up an example to experiment on. Good luck! James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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One of the other posters here indicated that "013" is a carrige return. Now I
don't know why it is displaying in a cell as a symbol. I can create carrige returns in cells by typing "Alt/Enter" and the symbol does not appear when I click inside a cell. Why does the symbol appear visibly sometimes but not others? And why can't I loose it by typing "^013" in the replace box? jeff "RagDyer" wrote: You're referring to *MS* documents in your post. Since this is an XL group, this is what I do to find the code in XL sheets: =Code(A1) Will return the code for the *first* character in the cell A1, whether visible or invisible. If you know, or suspect a character (invisible) is elsewhere in the cell, you can use something like this: =CODE(MID(A1,2,1)) Where you're referencing the *second* character, or =CODE(MID(A1,3,1)) Where you're referencing the *third* character, And so on ... ! -- HTH, RD --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please keep all correspondence within the NewsGroup, so all may benefit ! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Jeff Ingman" wrote in message ... I often find symbols in MS documents I'd like to remove or replace with something else. Is there a way to detect the underlying code of a symbol or special character to use for "Search and Replace"? |
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Because alt-enter is actually 010.
Jeff Ingman wrote: One of the other posters here indicated that "013" is a carrige return. Now I don't know why it is displaying in a cell as a symbol. I can create carrige returns in cells by typing "Alt/Enter" and the symbol does not appear when I click inside a cell. Why does the symbol appear visibly sometimes but not others? And why can't I loose it by typing "^013" in the replace box? jeff "RagDyer" wrote: You're referring to *MS* documents in your post. Since this is an XL group, this is what I do to find the code in XL sheets: =Code(A1) Will return the code for the *first* character in the cell A1, whether visible or invisible. If you know, or suspect a character (invisible) is elsewhere in the cell, you can use something like this: =CODE(MID(A1,2,1)) Where you're referencing the *second* character, or =CODE(MID(A1,3,1)) Where you're referencing the *third* character, And so on ... ! -- HTH, RD --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please keep all correspondence within the NewsGroup, so all may benefit ! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Jeff Ingman" wrote in message ... I often find symbols in MS documents I'd like to remove or replace with something else. Is there a way to detect the underlying code of a symbol or special character to use for "Search and Replace"? |
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If you're only looking at excel...
Chip Pearson has a very nice addin that will help determine what that character(s) is: http://www.cpearson.com/excel/CellView.htm You may be able to use Edit|Replace to change the character--Some characters can be entered by holding the alt-key and typing the hex number on the numeric keypad. For example, alt-0010 can be used for linefeeds. But I've never been able to get alt-0013 to work for carriage returns. Another alternative is to fix it via a formula: =substitute(a1,char(##),"") or =substitute(a1,char(##)," ") Replace ## with the ASCII value you see in Chip's addin. Or you could use a macro (after using Chip's CellView addin): Option Explicit Sub cleanEmUp() Dim myBadChars As Variant Dim myGoodChars As Variant Dim iCtr As Long myBadChars = Array(Chr(##), Chr(##)) '<--What showed up in CellView? myGoodChars = Array(" ","") '<--what's the new character, "" for nothing? If UBound(myGoodChars) < UBound(myBadChars) Then MsgBox "Design error!" Exit Sub End If For iCtr = LBound(myBadChars) To UBound(myBadChars) ActiveSheet.Cells.Replace What:=myBadChars(iCtr), _ Replacement:=myGoodChars(iCtr), _ LookAt:=xlPart, SearchOrder:=xlByRows, _ MatchCase:=False Next iCtr End Sub If you're new to macros, you may want to read David McRitchie's intro at: http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/getstarted.htm Jeff Ingman wrote: I often find symbols in MS documents I'd like to remove or replace with something else. Is there a way to detect the underlying code of a symbol or special character to use for "Search and Replace"? -- Dave Peterson |
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And if you're really trying to replace alt-enters in the edit|replace dialog,
you can type alt-0010 (from the numeric keypad) or you can use ctrl-j. Jeff Ingman wrote: One of the other posters here indicated that "013" is a carrige return. Now I don't know why it is displaying in a cell as a symbol. I can create carrige returns in cells by typing "Alt/Enter" and the symbol does not appear when I click inside a cell. Why does the symbol appear visibly sometimes but not others? And why can't I loose it by typing "^013" in the replace box? jeff "RagDyer" wrote: You're referring to *MS* documents in your post. Since this is an XL group, this is what I do to find the code in XL sheets: =Code(A1) Will return the code for the *first* character in the cell A1, whether visible or invisible. If you know, or suspect a character (invisible) is elsewhere in the cell, you can use something like this: =CODE(MID(A1,2,1)) Where you're referencing the *second* character, or =CODE(MID(A1,3,1)) Where you're referencing the *third* character, And so on ... ! -- HTH, RD --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please keep all correspondence within the NewsGroup, so all may benefit ! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Jeff Ingman" wrote in message ... I often find symbols in MS documents I'd like to remove or replace with something else. Is there a way to detect the underlying code of a symbol or special character to use for "Search and Replace"? -- Dave Peterson |
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When using Alt + Enter, the linefeed is the 0010 character, not the 0013.
0013 is very hard to get rid of except through VBA or the CLEAN function. Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:56:13 -0700, Jeff Ingman wrote: One of the other posters here indicated that "013" is a carrige return. Now I don't know why it is displaying in a cell as a symbol. I can create carrige returns in cells by typing "Alt/Enter" and the symbol does not appear when I click inside a cell. Why does the symbol appear visibly sometimes but not others? And why can't I loose it by typing "^013" in the replace box? jeff "RagDyer" wrote: You're referring to *MS* documents in your post. Since this is an XL group, this is what I do to find the code in XL sheets: =Code(A1) Will return the code for the *first* character in the cell A1, whether visible or invisible. If you know, or suspect a character (invisible) is elsewhere in the cell, you can use something like this: =CODE(MID(A1,2,1)) Where you're referencing the *second* character, or =CODE(MID(A1,3,1)) Where you're referencing the *third* character, And so on ... ! -- HTH, RD --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please keep all correspondence within the NewsGroup, so all may benefit ! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Jeff Ingman" wrote in message ... I often find symbols in MS documents I'd like to remove or replace with something else. Is there a way to detect the underlying code of a symbol or special character to use for "Search and Replace"? |
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Dave...
Thanks a bunch to you... and the other responders to this string. As practical matter... this problem proved more complicated than I originally imagined. It took me about 3 minutes to manually remove the offending symbols... and I may not run into this particular problem again. I've done a few macros in Excel... and could probably follow your instructions... but it would take more time than it is worth to me. But thanks a bunch regardless. jeff "Dave Peterson" wrote: If you're only looking at excel... Chip Pearson has a very nice addin that will help determine what that character(s) is: http://www.cpearson.com/excel/CellView.htm You may be able to use Edit|Replace to change the character--Some characters can be entered by holding the alt-key and typing the hex number on the numeric keypad. For example, alt-0010 can be used for linefeeds. But I've never been able to get alt-0013 to work for carriage returns. Another alternative is to fix it via a formula: =substitute(a1,char(##),"") or =substitute(a1,char(##)," ") Replace ## with the ASCII value you see in Chip's addin. Or you could use a macro (after using Chip's CellView addin): Option Explicit Sub cleanEmUp() Dim myBadChars As Variant Dim myGoodChars As Variant Dim iCtr As Long myBadChars = Array(Chr(##), Chr(##)) '<--What showed up in CellView? myGoodChars = Array(" ","") '<--what's the new character, "" for nothing? If UBound(myGoodChars) < UBound(myBadChars) Then MsgBox "Design error!" Exit Sub End If For iCtr = LBound(myBadChars) To UBound(myBadChars) ActiveSheet.Cells.Replace What:=myBadChars(iCtr), _ Replacement:=myGoodChars(iCtr), _ LookAt:=xlPart, SearchOrder:=xlByRows, _ MatchCase:=False Next iCtr End Sub If you're new to macros, you may want to read David McRitchie's intro at: http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/getstarted.htm Jeff Ingman wrote: I often find symbols in MS documents I'd like to remove or replace with something else. Is there a way to detect the underlying code of a symbol or special character to use for "Search and Replace"? -- Dave Peterson |
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