Hi, I am posting this again in a hope to get attention to my tricky problem
Bob
_________

Thanks Jon,

Some consolotion, but no solution...
:-)

I am not doing any progress at all with this problem. Really need help!(Saw
that Steve had beed in similar thread 1,5 yr ago)

Regarding resulting EMF/WMF shapes, there seems to be a big difference
between seeting the Shape Border to Solid manually compared to doing it
through VBA or through a Chart Style ( I took a standard one).
This is bizarre!

Is there some way to emulate the manual action in the menu?
i.e. something like: Application.Commandbars.Execute ("SolidBorder").

Any other idea?
I have considered parsing the OpenXMLfiles to see what the difference is
between
the files....
How is this done?

Bob


"Jon Peltier" wrote in message
...
Bob -

I suspect that the conversion from Excel 2003 shapes to Excel 2007 shapes
was incomplete. I have had a number of headaches when trying to ungroup
charts in this way. Some chart elements which were once distinct objects
are now no longer divisible into constituent elements. For example,
gridlines. Also, while most Excel 2007 VBA is consistent with prior
versions, when it comes to Excel 2007 shapes, and dealing with the shapes
that comprise Excel 007 chart elements, the VBA is just not smooth. I know
of no reliable workarounds that don't involve upgrading to Excel 2003.

You have gone to a greater depth than I have, meaning you have endured
greater frustration. You have also uncovered more freakish behavior, which
unfortunately brings you no closer to a useful understanding.

I suspect this is not the kind of thing that SP2's improved VBA support
will address.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
Peltier Technical Services, Inc. - http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"Bob" <bobone a pointer.se wrote in message
...
Hi again,

I have come a little closer to the mystery, but the drama tightens...
ACTUALLY,
Manually setting the Column Borders (not the Fills) to Solid from
Automatic, makes the corresponding EMF/WMF objects become distinct
Rectangles and not Freeforms.

BUT,
Doing the same thing with VBA, (by setting Color =0), creates solid
borders in the chart, but does not affect the "EMFprocess" and results in
Freeform objects in PPT!

Furthermore,
Doing it with VBA actually "destroys" other manually set borders to Solid
(that previously worked) and these thereafter become Freeform instead of
Rectangle.

Finally
To reset the VBA damage, I need to reset to automatic, save and then
reset the border manually.


This is WEIRD!
Help really needed

Thanks,

Bob

"Bob" <bobone a pointer.se wrote in message
...
Hi,

A "Marimekko/Lasagne chart" is a valuable format that MS does not
support.
Although several excellent solutions have been developed (S Bullen, etc),
they have their flaws.

For 2003 I have some great code that disassembles a Stacked Column chart,
scales the Category-axis and puts it back together again. This is done in
PPT with VBA.
There is actually an order for breaking up a chart that I have parsed (in
object order: Points, Value axis,Category axis, Point Labels, Value Axis
delimiters, Category names and finally the Legend (any comment to this?)

2007 creates problems! (the OLE disconnection is a pain, but I understand
SP2 (Q12009) will adress this)

My largest concerns a
- new objects (freeform) are created that tend to group other objects
(rectangles). These cannot be broken up.
- inconsistancy. Some charts (that look identical) create the distinct
Rectangles (that I want) others Freeforms that lock in "my" rectangles.

Question:
- how can I control what is being created in the "save as EMF/WMF
process.
I.e. don't want freeforms!!!

I have tried fooling around with the Forecolors and Borders of the
Columns.
At first I thought that explicitelt defining a solid color would help.
I have two test charts looking identical, as far as I can tell, one with
solid fill one with automatic fills. The first one creates rectangles,
the
latter grouped freeforms. Unfortunately, changing the automatic coloring
to
solid does not help... there must be something else that differs...

What?

Really need help...
(Steve and Ben wer involved in a thread a year ago regarding "Excel 2007
line-chart pasted as an enhanced metafile - editing")

Thanks,

Bob

Is this about charts (chartobjects), or about pictures (EMF/WMF inserted
images), or about Freeforms, or all of these.

Is it about ungrouping or is it about changing border styles, or both

Does this concern Excel or Powerpoint or both.

Regards,
Peter T



"Bob" <bobone a pointer.se wrote in message
...
Hi, I am posting this again in a hope to get attention to my tricky
problem
Bob
_________

Thanks Jon,

Some consolotion, but no solution...
:-)

I am not doing any progress at all with this problem. Really need
help!(Saw
that Steve had beed in similar thread 1,5 yr ago)

Regarding resulting EMF/WMF shapes, there seems to be a big difference
between seeting the Shape Border to Solid manually compared to doing it
through VBA or through a Chart Style ( I took a standard one).
This is bizarre!

Is there some way to emulate the manual action in the menu?
i.e. something like: Application.Commandbars.Execute ("SolidBorder").

Any other idea?
I have considered parsing the OpenXMLfiles to see what the difference is
between
the files....
How is this done?

Bob


"Jon Peltier" wrote in message
...
Bob -

I suspect that the conversion from Excel 2003 shapes to Excel 2007 shapes
was incomplete. I have had a number of headaches when trying to ungroup
charts in this way. Some chart elements which were once distinct objects
are now no longer divisible into constituent elements. For example,
gridlines. Also, while most Excel 2007 VBA is consistent with prior
versions, when it comes to Excel 2007 shapes, and dealing with the shapes
that comprise Excel 007 chart elements, the VBA is just not smooth. I
know
of no reliable workarounds that don't involve upgrading to Excel 2003.

You have gone to a greater depth than I have, meaning you have endured
greater frustration. You have also uncovered more freakish behavior,
which
unfortunately brings you no closer to a useful understanding.

I suspect this is not the kind of thing that SP2's improved VBA support
will address.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
Peltier Technical Services, Inc. - http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"Bob" <bobone a pointer.se wrote in message
...
Hi again,

I have come a little closer to the mystery, but the drama tightens...
ACTUALLY,
Manually setting the Column Borders (not the Fills) to Solid from
Automatic, makes the corresponding EMF/WMF objects become distinct
Rectangles and not Freeforms.

BUT,
Doing the same thing with VBA, (by setting Color =0), creates solid
borders in the chart, but does not affect the "EMFprocess" and results
in
Freeform objects in PPT!

Furthermore,
Doing it with VBA actually "destroys" other manually set borders to
Solid
(that previously worked) and these thereafter become Freeform instead of
Rectangle.

Finally
To reset the VBA damage, I need to reset to automatic, save and then
reset the border manually.


This is WEIRD!
Help really needed

Thanks,

Bob

"Bob" <bobone a pointer.se wrote in message
...
Hi,

A "Marimekko/Lasagne chart" is a valuable format that MS does not
support.
Although several excellent solutions have been developed (S Bullen,
etc),
they have their flaws.

For 2003 I have some great code that disassembles a Stacked Column
chart,
scales the Category-axis and puts it back together again. This is done
in
PPT with VBA.
There is actually an order for breaking up a chart that I have parsed
(in
object order: Points, Value axis,Category axis, Point Labels, Value Axis
delimiters, Category names and finally the Legend (any comment to this?)

2007 creates problems! (the OLE disconnection is a pain, but I
understand
SP2 (Q12009) will adress this)

My largest concerns a
- new objects (freeform) are created that tend to group other objects
(rectangles). These cannot be broken up.
- inconsistancy. Some charts (that look identical) create the distinct
Rectangles (that I want) others Freeforms that lock in "my" rectangles.

Question:
- how can I control what is being created in the "save as EMF/WMF
process.
I.e. don't want freeforms!!!

I have tried fooling around with the Forecolors and Borders of the
Columns.
At first I thought that explicitelt defining a solid color would help.
I have two test charts looking identical, as far as I can tell, one with
solid fill one with automatic fills. The first one creates rectangles,
the
latter grouped freeforms. Unfortunately, changing the automatic coloring
to
solid does not help... there must be something else that differs...

What?

Really need help...
(Steve and Ben wer involved in a thread a year ago regarding "Excel 2007
line-chart pasted as an enhanced metafile - editing")

Thanks,

Bob

Hi,

This is about disassembling Excel Charts into EMF/WMF objects. Usually done
through the Ungroup command.
It applies to Office 2007. For further understanding, the complete thread is
enclosed.

I have some news!

Previously I discovered that:
- a solid border color is necessary to ungroup the chart shapes into
distinct objects (e.g. rectangles) and not gouped Freeforms
- this works when it is done manually
- making the border solid through VBA ( .border.color = 0) makes the border
appear as solid, but renders Freeforms in the EMF/WMF process! Arghh!!!
- applying styles that have a solid border, doesn't work either...

But,
- If I use a saved template with manually set borders, It works!!!!!!

Isn't this weird!
What is the difference?!

Bob

"Peter T" <peter_t@discussions wrote in message
...
Is this about charts (chartobjects), or about pictures (EMF/WMF inserted
images), or about Freeforms, or all of these.

Is it about ungrouping or is it about changing border styles, or both

Does this concern Excel or Powerpoint or both.

Regards,
Peter T



"Bob" <bobone a pointer.se wrote in message
...
Hi, I am posting this again in a hope to get attention to my tricky
problem
Bob
_________

Thanks Jon,

Some consolotion, but no solution...
:-)

I am not doing any progress at all with this problem. Really need
help!(Saw
that Steve had beed in similar thread 1,5 yr ago)

Regarding resulting EMF/WMF shapes, there seems to be a big difference
between seeting the Shape Border to Solid manually compared to doing it
through VBA or through a Chart Style ( I took a standard one).
This is bizarre!

Is there some way to emulate the manual action in the menu?
i.e. something like: Application.Commandbars.Execute ("SolidBorder").

Any other idea?
I have considered parsing the OpenXMLfiles to see what the difference is
between
the files....
How is this done?

Bob


"Jon Peltier" wrote in message
...
Bob -

I suspect that the conversion from Excel 2003 shapes to Excel 2007
shapes
was incomplete. I have had a number of headaches when trying to ungroup
charts in this way. Some chart elements which were once distinct objects
are now no longer divisible into constituent elements. For example,
gridlines. Also, while most Excel 2007 VBA is consistent with prior
versions, when it comes to Excel 2007 shapes, and dealing with the
shapes
that comprise Excel 007 chart elements, the VBA is just not smooth. I
know
of no reliable workarounds that don't involve upgrading to Excel 2003.

You have gone to a greater depth than I have, meaning you have endured
greater frustration. You have also uncovered more freakish behavior,
which
unfortunately brings you no closer to a useful understanding.

I suspect this is not the kind of thing that SP2's improved VBA support
will address.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
Peltier Technical Services, Inc. - http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"Bob" <bobone a pointer.se wrote in message
...
Hi again,

I have come a little closer to the mystery, but the drama tightens...
ACTUALLY,
Manually setting the Column Borders (not the Fills) to Solid from
Automatic, makes the corresponding EMF/WMF objects become distinct
Rectangles and not Freeforms.

BUT,
Doing the same thing with VBA, (by setting Color =0), creates solid
borders in the chart, but does not affect the "EMFprocess" and results
in
Freeform objects in PPT!

Furthermore,
Doing it with VBA actually "destroys" other manually set borders to
Solid
(that previously worked) and these thereafter become Freeform instead
of
Rectangle.

Finally
To reset the VBA damage, I need to reset to automatic, save and then
reset the border manually.


This is WEIRD!
Help really needed

Thanks,

Bob

"Bob" <bobone a pointer.se wrote in message
...
Hi,

A "Marimekko/Lasagne chart" is a valuable format that MS does not
support.
Although several excellent solutions have been developed (S Bullen,
etc),
they have their flaws.

For 2003 I have some great code that disassembles a Stacked Column
chart,
scales the Category-axis and puts it back together again. This is done
in
PPT with VBA.
There is actually an order for breaking up a chart that I have parsed
(in
object order: Points, Value axis,Category axis, Point Labels, Value
Axis
delimiters, Category names and finally the Legend (any comment to
this?)

2007 creates problems! (the OLE disconnection is a pain, but I
understand
SP2 (Q12009) will adress this)

My largest concerns a
- new objects (freeform) are created that tend to group other objects
(rectangles). These cannot be broken up.
- inconsistancy. Some charts (that look identical) create the distinct
Rectangles (that I want) others Freeforms that lock in "my" rectangles.

Question:
- how can I control what is being created in the "save as EMF/WMF
process.
I.e. don't want freeforms!!!

I have tried fooling around with the Forecolors and Borders of the
Columns.
At first I thought that explicitelt defining a solid color would help.
I have two test charts looking identical, as far as I can tell, one
with
solid fill one with automatic fills. The first one creates rectangles,
the
latter grouped freeforms. Unfortunately, changing the automatic
coloring
to
solid does not help... there must be something else that differs...

What?

Really need help...
(Steve and Ben wer involved in a thread a year ago regarding "Excel
2007
line-chart pasted as an enhanced metafile - editing")

Thanks,

Bob