Hello -

I am working on an Excel chart with both a primary and secondary y-axis and
only one x-axis. The primary has positive and negative values. The
secondary has all positive values. I am using the secondary as a rank (by
selecting the box to invert values so the highest rank has a value of 1 and
appears at the top of the secondary y-axis, where rank 25 is the lowest
possible rank and appears at the bottom of the secondary y-axis), in theory
where the x and y axes meet. The x-axis is different points in time. So
this chart shows trends over time.

The issue I am having is the primary x-axis crosses the primary y-axis at 0
(y-axis value), which is what I want. However, the primary x-axis crosses
the secondary y-axis at a value that is not the lowest value on the secondary
y-axis. In this case, since I am using it as a rank, it is not crossing at
the lowest rank. I am not showing the secondary x-axis associated with rank.

I don't have this issue if all of the values on the primary y-axis are
positive. In other words, the primary x-axis crosses at 0 on the primary
y-axis and at the lowest rank on the secondary axis.

My question is, is there a way to fix my problem? Is there an option where
I can set the value where the primary x-axis crosses a value on the secondary
y-axis? I know I can set the value for Primary x-axis to primary y-axis -
and do the same for the secondary x and y axes, but I'm not aware of a way to
cross this primary - secondary boundary.

I imagine the graph's axes looking like a backwards 4 - the primary y-axis
goes above and below the primary x-axis. The primary x-axis is approximately
in the middle. The secondary y-axis is as high as the primary y-axis but
only goes down to the x-axis (i.e., it does not extend below the x-axis). Is
this possible?

Something like this:

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|_______|
|
|

Thanks!

- Derek

You have to fix the secondary axis so it goes as far negative as a
proportion of its full scale as the primary axis does. You can do it
manually or using a VBA procedu

http://peltiertech.com/Excel/Charts/AlignXon2Ys.html

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
Peltier Technical Services, Inc. - http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"Derek" wrote in message
...
Hello -

I am working on an Excel chart with both a primary and secondary y-axis
and
only one x-axis. The primary has positive and negative values. The
secondary has all positive values. I am using the secondary as a rank (by
selecting the box to invert values so the highest rank has a value of 1
and
appears at the top of the secondary y-axis, where rank 25 is the lowest
possible rank and appears at the bottom of the secondary y-axis), in
theory
where the x and y axes meet. The x-axis is different points in time. So
this chart shows trends over time.

The issue I am having is the primary x-axis crosses the primary y-axis at
0
(y-axis value), which is what I want. However, the primary x-axis crosses
the secondary y-axis at a value that is not the lowest value on the
secondary
y-axis. In this case, since I am using it as a rank, it is not crossing
at
the lowest rank. I am not showing the secondary x-axis associated with
rank.

I don't have this issue if all of the values on the primary y-axis are
positive. In other words, the primary x-axis crosses at 0 on the primary
y-axis and at the lowest rank on the secondary axis.

My question is, is there a way to fix my problem? Is there an option
where
I can set the value where the primary x-axis crosses a value on the
secondary
y-axis? I know I can set the value for Primary x-axis to primary y-axis -
and do the same for the secondary x and y axes, but I'm not aware of a way
to
cross this primary - secondary boundary.

I imagine the graph's axes looking like a backwards 4 - the primary y-axis
goes above and below the primary x-axis. The primary x-axis is
approximately
in the middle. The secondary y-axis is as high as the primary y-axis but
only goes down to the x-axis (i.e., it does not extend below the x-axis).
Is
this possible?

Something like this:

| |
|_______|
|
|

Thanks!

- Derek

Hi Jon -

Thanks for the quick response.

I understand what you are saying in terms of having the primary and
secondary y-axes in proportion to each other, but I think the wrinkle in my
chart is I am using the secondary y-axis as a rank with the lowest rank at
the bottom where the y-axis meets the x-axis.

I completely agree with your suggestion if I were dealing with numbers going
in the same direction on both y-axes, but that is not the case here, since
you can't have a negative rank and I have rank in descending order with $
values in ascending order.

So my envisioned chart looks like this with $ as a bar graph (primary axis)
and rank as a line graph (secondary axis). I want the secondary y-axis to
cross / stop at the primary x-axis at x-axis value $0. If I have the rank
proportions to the $ amounts, it implies a $0 is not the bottom rank, which
is not always the case in my data set. I don't want the primary x-axis to
imply $0 is not ranked the lowest.

$100 | | Rank 1
| |
| |
$0 |_________|Rank 25
|
|
($100)|
Q1 Q2 Q3

- Derek

-----------------------


"Jon Peltier" wrote:

You have to fix the secondary axis so it goes as far negative as a
proportion of its full scale as the primary axis does. You can do it
manually or using a VBA procedu

http://peltiertech.com/Excel/Charts/AlignXon2Ys.html

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
Peltier Technical Services, Inc. - http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"Derek" wrote in message
...
Hello -

I am working on an Excel chart with both a primary and secondary y-axis
and
only one x-axis. The primary has positive and negative values. The
secondary has all positive values. I am using the secondary as a rank (by
selecting the box to invert values so the highest rank has a value of 1
and
appears at the top of the secondary y-axis, where rank 25 is the lowest
possible rank and appears at the bottom of the secondary y-axis), in
theory
where the x and y axes meet. The x-axis is different points in time. So
this chart shows trends over time.

The issue I am having is the primary x-axis crosses the primary y-axis at
0
(y-axis value), which is what I want. However, the primary x-axis crosses
the secondary y-axis at a value that is not the lowest value on the
secondary
y-axis. In this case, since I am using it as a rank, it is not crossing
at
the lowest rank. I am not showing the secondary x-axis associated with
rank.

I don't have this issue if all of the values on the primary y-axis are
positive. In other words, the primary x-axis crosses at 0 on the primary
y-axis and at the lowest rank on the secondary axis.

My question is, is there a way to fix my problem? Is there an option
where
I can set the value where the primary x-axis crosses a value on the
secondary
y-axis? I know I can set the value for Primary x-axis to primary y-axis -
and do the same for the secondary x and y axes, but I'm not aware of a way
to
cross this primary - secondary boundary.

I imagine the graph's axes looking like a backwards 4 - the primary y-axis
goes above and below the primary x-axis. The primary x-axis is
approximately
in the middle. The secondary y-axis is as high as the primary y-axis but
only goes down to the x-axis (i.e., it does not extend below the x-axis).
Is
this possible?

Something like this:

| |
|_______|
|
|

Thanks!

- Derek

I didn't say plot numbers along the negative secondary Y axis, I was telling
you how to align the 0 point of each Y axis. If you don't want the negative
part of the axis to show, don't display any part of the axis (format: no
line), and add an XY series to the chart to serve as a fake axis:

http://peltiertech.com/Excel/Charts/ArbitraryAxis.html

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
Peltier Technical Services, Inc. - http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"Derek" wrote in message
...
Hi Jon -

Thanks for the quick response.

I understand what you are saying in terms of having the primary and
secondary y-axes in proportion to each other, but I think the wrinkle in
my
chart is I am using the secondary y-axis as a rank with the lowest rank at
the bottom where the y-axis meets the x-axis.

I completely agree with your suggestion if I were dealing with numbers
going
in the same direction on both y-axes, but that is not the case here, since
you can't have a negative rank and I have rank in descending order with $
values in ascending order.

So my envisioned chart looks like this with $ as a bar graph (primary
axis)
and rank as a line graph (secondary axis). I want the secondary y-axis to
cross / stop at the primary x-axis at x-axis value $0. If I have the rank
proportions to the $ amounts, it implies a $0 is not the bottom rank,
which
is not always the case in my data set. I don't want the primary x-axis to
imply $0 is not ranked the lowest.

$100 | | Rank 1
| |
| |
$0 |_________|Rank 25
|
|
($100)|
Q1 Q2 Q3

- Derek

-----------------------


"Jon Peltier" wrote:

You have to fix the secondary axis so it goes as far negative as a
proportion of its full scale as the primary axis does. You can do it
manually or using a VBA procedu

http://peltiertech.com/Excel/Charts/AlignXon2Ys.html

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
Peltier Technical Services, Inc. - http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"Derek" wrote in message
...
Hello -

I am working on an Excel chart with both a primary and secondary y-axis
and
only one x-axis. The primary has positive and negative values. The
secondary has all positive values. I am using the secondary as a rank
(by
selecting the box to invert values so the highest rank has a value of 1
and
appears at the top of the secondary y-axis, where rank 25 is the lowest
possible rank and appears at the bottom of the secondary y-axis), in
theory
where the x and y axes meet. The x-axis is different points in time.
So
this chart shows trends over time.

The issue I am having is the primary x-axis crosses the primary y-axis
at
0
(y-axis value), which is what I want. However, the primary x-axis
crosses
the secondary y-axis at a value that is not the lowest value on the
secondary
y-axis. In this case, since I am using it as a rank, it is not
crossing
at
the lowest rank. I am not showing the secondary x-axis associated with
rank.

I don't have this issue if all of the values on the primary y-axis are
positive. In other words, the primary x-axis crosses at 0 on the
primary
y-axis and at the lowest rank on the secondary axis.

My question is, is there a way to fix my problem? Is there an option
where
I can set the value where the primary x-axis crosses a value on the
secondary
y-axis? I know I can set the value for Primary x-axis to primary
y-axis -
and do the same for the secondary x and y axes, but I'm not aware of a
way
to
cross this primary - secondary boundary.

I imagine the graph's axes looking like a backwards 4 - the primary
y-axis
goes above and below the primary x-axis. The primary x-axis is
approximately
in the middle. The secondary y-axis is as high as the primary y-axis
but
only goes down to the x-axis (i.e., it does not extend below the
x-axis).
Is
this possible?

Something like this:

| |
|_______|
|
|

Thanks!

- Derek