hello,

I have a simple table of data with 2 columns of numbers, which I'm trying to
build into a simple horizontal bar chart

Problem is that the 1 column's numbers are much greater than the other, so
this means that makes the smaller series' bars look very small. I would like
to see both displayed together however, but if I put it on a secondary axis
it overlays one on top of the other, rather than side-by-side

Is there an easy way to stop this happening? any help would be greatly
appreciated

cheers

griff

This link shows how to handle this with column charts. For bar charts the
approach is very similar.

http://peltiertech.com/Excel/Charts/...OnTwoAxes.html

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
Peltier Technical Services, Inc. - http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"griff" wrote in message
...
hello,

I have a simple table of data with 2 columns of numbers, which I'm trying
to
build into a simple horizontal bar chart

Problem is that the 1 column's numbers are much greater than the other, so
this means that makes the smaller series' bars look very small. I would
like
to see both displayed together however, but if I put it on a secondary
axis
it overlays one on top of the other, rather than side-by-side

Is there an easy way to stop this happening? any help would be greatly
appreciated

cheers

griff

thanks jon - was hoping there was an options button that i was missing, but i
should have known better!

cheers!

griff

"Jon Peltier" wrote:

This link shows how to handle this with column charts. For bar charts the
approach is very similar.

http://peltiertech.com/Excel/Charts/...OnTwoAxes.html

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
Peltier Technical Services, Inc. - http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"griff" wrote in message
...
hello,

I have a simple table of data with 2 columns of numbers, which I'm trying
to
build into a simple horizontal bar chart

Problem is that the 1 column's numbers are much greater than the other, so
this means that makes the smaller series' bars look very small. I would
like
to see both displayed together however, but if I put it on a secondary
axis
it overlays one on top of the other, rather than side-by-side

Is there an easy way to stop this happening? any help would be greatly
appreciated

cheers

griff

On Wed, 5 Dec 2007, in microsoft.public.excel.charting,
griff said:

I have a simple table of data with 2 columns of numbers, which I'm trying to
build into a simple horizontal bar chart

but if I put it on a secondary axis it overlays one on top of the
other, rather than side-by-side

Is there an easy way to stop this happening? any help would be greatly
appreciated

The best way is to create a pair of phantom bars, one on each axis.
They're both zero (or formatted to be invisible), and each one
"overlays" the bar that you want to display on the other axis. But
because they're zero or invisible, they're not overlaying or covering
anything, so you get the effect you want, which is your two actual bars
lying side-by-side.

Jon Peltier shows how to do it he

http://peltiertech.com/Excel/Charts/...OnTwoAxes.html

--
Del Cotter
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which goes to a spam folder-- please send your email to del3 instead.

forgot to mention that one of the sets of numbers has a couple of negative
values - had some great fun manually tweaking the scale to get them to match!


"Jon Peltier" wrote:

This link shows how to handle this with column charts. For bar charts the
approach is very similar.

http://peltiertech.com/Excel/Charts/...OnTwoAxes.html

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
Peltier Technical Services, Inc. - http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"griff" wrote in message
...
hello,

I have a simple table of data with 2 columns of numbers, which I'm trying
to
build into a simple horizontal bar chart

Problem is that the 1 column's numbers are much greater than the other, so
this means that makes the smaller series' bars look very small. I would
like
to see both displayed together however, but if I put it on a secondary
axis
it overlays one on top of the other, rather than side-by-side

Is there an easy way to stop this happening? any help would be greatly
appreciated

cheers

griff

thanks del, but i'm afraid jon p already beat you to the same answer!
if however you can find a way to avoid manually messing around with scales
to make the x axes align when you have negative values then that would be
even better!

cheers

griff

"Del Cotter" wrote:

On Wed, 5 Dec 2007, in microsoft.public.excel.charting,
griff said:

I have a simple table of data with 2 columns of numbers, which I'm trying to
build into a simple horizontal bar chart

but if I put it on a secondary axis it overlays one on top of the
other, rather than side-by-side

Is there an easy way to stop this happening? any help would be greatly
appreciated

The best way is to create a pair of phantom bars, one on each axis.
They're both zero (or formatted to be invisible), and each one
"overlays" the bar that you want to display on the other axis. But
because they're zero or invisible, they're not overlaying or covering
anything, so you get the effect you want, which is your two actual bars
lying side-by-side.

Jon Peltier shows how to do it he

http://peltiertech.com/Excel/Charts/...OnTwoAxes.html

--
Del Cotter
NB Personal replies to this post will send email to ,
which goes to a spam folder-- please send your email to del3 instead.

On Wed, 5 Dec 2007, in microsoft.public.excel.charting,
griff said:

thanks del, but i'm afraid jon p already beat you to the same answer!
if however you can find a way to avoid manually messing around with scales
to make the x axes align when you have negative values then that would be
even better!

Well, because you've created an invisible bar in each axis, you have a
way of making the two scales *automatically* match, no matter what data
you put in. Provided, that is, that you went the route of formatting
the bars to be "Border=None, Area=None" instead of having them contain
zero values.

Just have each invisible bar series be some scaled multiple (or
fraction) of the same values as its visible doppelganger, and the scales
will never mismatch, even when left on automatic.

PS this works if the multiple in question is a power of ten, or five
times a power of ten. For other scalings the zeroes sometimes end up
misaligned.

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Del Cotter
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Griff -

How's this:

http://peltiertech.com/Excel/Charts/AlignXon2Ys.html

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
Peltier Technical Services, Inc. - http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"griff" wrote in message
...
thanks del, but i'm afraid jon p already beat you to the same answer!
if however you can find a way to avoid manually messing around with scales
to make the x axes align when you have negative values then that would be
even better!

cheers

griff

"Del Cotter" wrote:

On Wed, 5 Dec 2007, in microsoft.public.excel.charting,
griff said:

I have a simple table of data with 2 columns of numbers, which I'm
trying to
build into a simple horizontal bar chart

but if I put it on a secondary axis it overlays one on top of the
other, rather than side-by-side

Is there an easy way to stop this happening? any help would be greatly
appreciated

The best way is to create a pair of phantom bars, one on each axis.
They're both zero (or formatted to be invisible), and each one
"overlays" the bar that you want to display on the other axis. But
because they're zero or invisible, they're not overlaying or covering
anything, so you get the effect you want, which is your two actual bars
lying side-by-side.

Jon Peltier shows how to do it he

http://peltiertech.com/Excel/Charts/...OnTwoAxes.html

--
Del Cotter
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,
which goes to a spam folder-- please send your email to del3 instead.

Thanks Jon & Del for your advice - most helpful!

cheers,

Griff

"Jon Peltier" wrote:

Griff -

How's this:

http://peltiertech.com/Excel/Charts/AlignXon2Ys.html

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
Peltier Technical Services, Inc. - http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"griff" wrote in message
...
thanks del, but i'm afraid jon p already beat you to the same answer!
if however you can find a way to avoid manually messing around with scales
to make the x axes align when you have negative values then that would be
even better!

cheers

griff

"Del Cotter" wrote:

On Wed, 5 Dec 2007, in microsoft.public.excel.charting,
griff said:

I have a simple table of data with 2 columns of numbers, which I'm
trying to
build into a simple horizontal bar chart

but if I put it on a secondary axis it overlays one on top of the
other, rather than side-by-side

Is there an easy way to stop this happening? any help would be greatly
appreciated

The best way is to create a pair of phantom bars, one on each axis.
They're both zero (or formatted to be invisible), and each one
"overlays" the bar that you want to display on the other axis. But
because they're zero or invisible, they're not overlaying or covering
anything, so you get the effect you want, which is your two actual bars
lying side-by-side.

Jon Peltier shows how to do it he

http://peltiertech.com/Excel/Charts/...OnTwoAxes.html

--
Del Cotter
NB Personal replies to this post will send email to
,
which goes to a spam folder-- please send your email to del3 instead.