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Excel 2003. Windows XP Professional. Bank reconciliations. How is it
possible in an unprotected worksheet to hide additional data input in formulas so that visible invalid numbers produce accurate results? Displaying hidden formulas in formula bar reveals nothing. Blank cells have been included in formula, but searches for hidden numbers and links in these cells produced nothing. I'm at my wit's end to correct this misuse of Excel in my office. Any suggestions? |
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Maybe the empty cells aren't really hidden? Perhaps they have text color set
to background color, making them appear empty unless you select them at which time their contents will be revealed. "catlover1946" wrote: Excel 2003. Windows XP Professional. Bank reconciliations. How is it possible in an unprotected worksheet to hide additional data input in formulas so that visible invalid numbers produce accurate results? Displaying hidden formulas in formula bar reveals nothing. Blank cells have been included in formula, but searches for hidden numbers and links in these cells produced nothing. I'm at my wit's end to correct this misuse of Excel in my office. Any suggestions? |
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Another trick is using a font size of 1.
Biff "JLatham" wrote in message ... Maybe the empty cells aren't really hidden? Perhaps they have text color set to background color, making them appear empty unless you select them at which time their contents will be revealed. "catlover1946" wrote: Excel 2003. Windows XP Professional. Bank reconciliations. How is it possible in an unprotected worksheet to hide additional data input in formulas so that visible invalid numbers produce accurate results? Displaying hidden formulas in formula bar reveals nothing. Blank cells have been included in formula, but searches for hidden numbers and links in these cells produced nothing. I'm at my wit's end to correct this misuse of Excel in my office. Any suggestions? |
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Or FormatCellsNumberCustom;;; (3 semicolons)
-- Regards Roger Govier "Biff" wrote in message ... Another trick is using a font size of 1. Biff "JLatham" wrote in message ... Maybe the empty cells aren't really hidden? Perhaps they have text color set to background color, making them appear empty unless you select them at which time their contents will be revealed. "catlover1946" wrote: Excel 2003. Windows XP Professional. Bank reconciliations. How is it possible in an unprotected worksheet to hide additional data input in formulas so that visible invalid numbers produce accurate results? Displaying hidden formulas in formula bar reveals nothing. Blank cells have been included in formula, but searches for hidden numbers and links in these cells produced nothing. I'm at my wit's end to correct this misuse of Excel in my office. Any suggestions? |
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I first checked to see what text color was used, and converted the entire
worksheet to black type face. All cells have only white background. None are filled with colored background. Even if text and background color are the same, the formula should be displayed in the formula bar when the cell is selected. Since formulas in the formula bar can be hidden, I re-displayed formula bar contents for the entire workbook. "JLatham" wrote: Maybe the empty cells aren't really hidden? Perhaps they have text color set to background color, making them appear empty unless you select them at which time their contents will be revealed. "catlover1946" wrote: Excel 2003. Windows XP Professional. Bank reconciliations. How is it possible in an unprotected worksheet to hide additional data input in formulas so that visible invalid numbers produce accurate results? Displaying hidden formulas in formula bar reveals nothing. Blank cells have been included in formula, but searches for hidden numbers and links in these cells produced nothing. I'm at my wit's end to correct this misuse of Excel in my office. Any suggestions? |
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Biff --what a great idea, and probably the only thing I have overlooked in
searching cells. "Biff" wrote: Another trick is using a font size of 1. Biff "JLatham" wrote in message ... Maybe the empty cells aren't really hidden? Perhaps they have text color set to background color, making them appear empty unless you select them at which time their contents will be revealed. "catlover1946" wrote: Excel 2003. Windows XP Professional. Bank reconciliations. How is it possible in an unprotected worksheet to hide additional data input in formulas so that visible invalid numbers produce accurate results? Displaying hidden formulas in formula bar reveals nothing. Blank cells have been included in formula, but searches for hidden numbers and links in these cells produced nothing. I'm at my wit's end to correct this misuse of Excel in my office. Any suggestions? |
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Using font size 1 still leaves a tell-tale data mark in the cell. I can't
seem to find a way of using a smaller font. Also, the formula is still displayed in the formula bar. Un-hiding the contents of the formula bar revealed an empty cell. In order to reconcile a bank statement, all numbers must be correct. The weird thing is that the numbers displayed add up to the exact number needed to make the bank statement balance. But I know for a fact the numbers used are incorrect. Is there any way to "overwrite" a cell, but use the number underneath? "Biff" wrote: Another trick is using a font size of 1. Biff "JLatham" wrote in message ... Maybe the empty cells aren't really hidden? Perhaps they have text color set to background color, making them appear empty unless you select them at which time their contents will be revealed. "catlover1946" wrote: Excel 2003. Windows XP Professional. Bank reconciliations. How is it possible in an unprotected worksheet to hide additional data input in formulas so that visible invalid numbers produce accurate results? Displaying hidden formulas in formula bar reveals nothing. Blank cells have been included in formula, but searches for hidden numbers and links in these cells produced nothing. I'm at my wit's end to correct this misuse of Excel in my office. Any suggestions? |
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Thanks for the input. It is good to know. Doing this hides the cell
contents, but the formula bar still displays contents of the cell, unless you hide the information displayed in the formula bar, and this trick is easy to reverse, which I did. Nothing. "Roger Govier" wrote: Or FormatCellsNumberCustom;;; (3 semicolons) -- Regards Roger Govier "Biff" wrote in message ... Another trick is using a font size of 1. Biff "JLatham" wrote in message ... Maybe the empty cells aren't really hidden? Perhaps they have text color set to background color, making them appear empty unless you select them at which time their contents will be revealed. "catlover1946" wrote: Excel 2003. Windows XP Professional. Bank reconciliations. How is it possible in an unprotected worksheet to hide additional data input in formulas so that visible invalid numbers produce accurate results? Displaying hidden formulas in formula bar reveals nothing. Blank cells have been included in formula, but searches for hidden numbers and links in these cells produced nothing. I'm at my wit's end to correct this misuse of Excel in my office. Any suggestions? |
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I am confused
You say the worksheet is unprotected yet you claim to be able to unhide contents in the formula bar. If the sheet is unprotected, the formula bar contents WILL NOT be hidden. Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 15:59:01 -0700, catlover1946 wrote: Using font size 1 still leaves a tell-tale data mark in the cell. I can't seem to find a way of using a smaller font. Also, the formula is still displayed in the formula bar. Un-hiding the contents of the formula bar revealed an empty cell. In order to reconcile a bank statement, all numbers must be correct. The weird thing is that the numbers displayed add up to the exact number needed to make the bank statement balance. But I know for a fact the numbers used are incorrect. Is there any way to "overwrite" a cell, but use the number underneath? "Biff" wrote: Another trick is using a font size of 1. Biff "JLatham" wrote in message ... Maybe the empty cells aren't really hidden? Perhaps they have text color set to background color, making them appear empty unless you select them at which time their contents will be revealed. "catlover1946" wrote: Excel 2003. Windows XP Professional. Bank reconciliations. How is it possible in an unprotected worksheet to hide additional data input in formulas so that visible invalid numbers produce accurate results? Displaying hidden formulas in formula bar reveals nothing. Blank cells have been included in formula, but searches for hidden numbers and links in these cells produced nothing. I'm at my wit's end to correct this misuse of Excel in my office. Any suggestions? |
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Of course you're correct. Thanks for pointing out this discrepancy. I hid
and unhid the formula display repeatedly in the desparate hope something would click, since nothing else had worked. Protection is absolutely necessary to complete this process. It was not my intent to put forth any incorrect or misleading information. I'm an accountant, so financial programs are my forte. In the "use it or lose it" watchlist, I apparently lose it. I obiously remain a novice since Excel is not the primary software I use. I've tried so many things I've confused myself, and forget where I've been. I appreciate any input of whatever type. I'm amazed at the helpful suggestions I've recieved so far. Thanks for your insight, Catlover1946 "Gord Dibben" wrote: I am confused You say the worksheet is unprotected yet you claim to be able to unhide contents in the formula bar. If the sheet is unprotected, the formula bar contents WILL NOT be hidden. Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 15:59:01 -0700, catlover1946 wrote: Using font size 1 still leaves a tell-tale data mark in the cell. I can't seem to find a way of using a smaller font. Also, the formula is still displayed in the formula bar. Un-hiding the contents of the formula bar revealed an empty cell. In order to reconcile a bank statement, all numbers must be correct. The weird thing is that the numbers displayed add up to the exact number needed to make the bank statement balance. But I know for a fact the numbers used are incorrect. Is there any way to "overwrite" a cell, but use the number underneath? "Biff" wrote: Another trick is using a font size of 1. Biff "JLatham" wrote in message ... Maybe the empty cells aren't really hidden? Perhaps they have text color set to background color, making them appear empty unless you select them at which time their contents will be revealed. "catlover1946" wrote: Excel 2003. Windows XP Professional. Bank reconciliations. How is it possible in an unprotected worksheet to hide additional data input in formulas so that visible invalid numbers produce accurate results? Displaying hidden formulas in formula bar reveals nothing. Blank cells have been included in formula, but searches for hidden numbers and links in these cells produced nothing. I'm at my wit's end to correct this misuse of Excel in my office. Any suggestions? |
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Hi
OK, then for something really bizarre, are any of the cells being added Merged cells? Try the following. Put values in a set of adjacent cells down 2 columns. Now, merge two empty horizontal cells in the same 2 columns and then use the Format Painter to change the formats of the cells with your pairs of data. Only the left set of numbers in the newly merged cells will show up, but if you highlight the cells and look at the sum in the calculation bar at the bottom of the sheet, it will show the total of not just the visible values on the screen, but also the "invisible" values in the merged cells. I remembered seeing a reference to this in the NG's before, and David McRitchie uncovered the reason why in the thread as shown below. http://snipurl.com/swz8 (thanks Gord!!) It can also be "used" to hide formulae, so maybe there is a hidden formula that "adjusts" the reconciled figure. Could be a good way of "fiddling the books" and hiding the discrepancy!!!! -- Regards Roger Govier "catlover1946" wrote in message ... Thanks for the input. It is good to know. Doing this hides the cell contents, but the formula bar still displays contents of the cell, unless you hide the information displayed in the formula bar, and this trick is easy to reverse, which I did. Nothing. "Roger Govier" wrote: Or FormatCellsNumberCustom;;; (3 semicolons) -- Regards Roger Govier "Biff" wrote in message ... Another trick is using a font size of 1. Biff "JLatham" wrote in message ... Maybe the empty cells aren't really hidden? Perhaps they have text color set to background color, making them appear empty unless you select them at which time their contents will be revealed. "catlover1946" wrote: Excel 2003. Windows XP Professional. Bank reconciliations. How is it possible in an unprotected worksheet to hide additional data input in formulas so that visible invalid numbers produce accurate results? Displaying hidden formulas in formula bar reveals nothing. Blank cells have been included in formula, but searches for hidden numbers and links in these cells produced nothing. I'm at my wit's end to correct this misuse of Excel in my office. Any suggestions? |
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Roger--what wonderful suggestions. I tried this "merged cells" with no luck,
and also the borders diagonally. Neither turned up anything. I did, however, find in the computer files that for several months, there are two bank reconciliations. One set has incorrect file names, so that there is an unofficial reconciliation under a non-identifying file name, and an official "balanced" reconciliation under a file name in which the contents are easily recognizable. There is no reason for two reconciliations. It either balances or it doesn't. Last year I did a reconciliation behind this person and found completely made-up check amounts which didn't exist any where. Subsequently this person stopped listing outstanding checks and just put in totals of outstanding checks, making them impossible to trace. They did include a calculator tape which supported the amount of O/S checks. The tape is impossible to verify since it refers to nothing except amounts. I'm wondering with two sets of working papers if there is a hiddden link or reference. I only discovered this today, so have not had a chance to pursue this. Thanks so much for your input. This information may very well help uncover future problems. This is all fascinating, and again I thank you for this information. "Roger Govier" wrote: Hi OK, then for something really bizarre, are any of the cells being added Merged cells? Try the following. Put values in a set of adjacent cells down 2 columns. Now, merge two empty horizontal cells in the same 2 columns and then use the Format Painter to change the formats of the cells with your pairs of data. Only the left set of numbers in the newly merged cells will show up, but if you highlight the cells and look at the sum in the calculation bar at the bottom of the sheet, it will show the total of not just the visible values on the screen, but also the "invisible" values in the merged cells. I remembered seeing a reference to this in the NG's before, and David McRitchie uncovered the reason why in the thread as shown below. http://snipurl.com/swz8 (thanks Gord!!) It can also be "used" to hide formulae, so maybe there is a hidden formula that "adjusts" the reconciled figure. Could be a good way of "fiddling the books" and hiding the discrepancy!!!! -- Regards Roger Govier "catlover1946" wrote in message ... Thanks for the input. It is good to know. Doing this hides the cell contents, but the formula bar still displays contents of the cell, unless you hide the information displayed in the formula bar, and this trick is easy to reverse, which I did. Nothing. "Roger Govier" wrote: Or FormatCellsNumberCustom;;; (3 semicolons) -- Regards Roger Govier "Biff" wrote in message ... Another trick is using a font size of 1. Biff "JLatham" wrote in message ... Maybe the empty cells aren't really hidden? Perhaps they have text color set to background color, making them appear empty unless you select them at which time their contents will be revealed. "catlover1946" wrote: Excel 2003. Windows XP Professional. Bank reconciliations. How is it possible in an unprotected worksheet to hide additional data input in formulas so that visible invalid numbers produce accurate results? Displaying hidden formulas in formula bar reveals nothing. Blank cells have been included in formula, but searches for hidden numbers and links in these cells produced nothing. I'm at my wit's end to correct this misuse of Excel in my office. Any suggestions? |
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Well, good luck with your searching.
Sorry we haven't been able to throw any light on the discrepancy, but when you do uncover it, be sure to post back to the thread and let us know what the cause was. -- Regards Roger Govier "catlover1946" wrote in message ... Roger--what wonderful suggestions. I tried this "merged cells" with no luck, and also the borders diagonally. Neither turned up anything. I did, however, find in the computer files that for several months, there are two bank reconciliations. One set has incorrect file names, so that there is an unofficial reconciliation under a non-identifying file name, and an official "balanced" reconciliation under a file name in which the contents are easily recognizable. There is no reason for two reconciliations. It either balances or it doesn't. Last year I did a reconciliation behind this person and found completely made-up check amounts which didn't exist any where. Subsequently this person stopped listing outstanding checks and just put in totals of outstanding checks, making them impossible to trace. They did include a calculator tape which supported the amount of O/S checks. The tape is impossible to verify since it refers to nothing except amounts. I'm wondering with two sets of working papers if there is a hiddden link or reference. I only discovered this today, so have not had a chance to pursue this. Thanks so much for your input. This information may very well help uncover future problems. This is all fascinating, and again I thank you for this information. "Roger Govier" wrote: Hi OK, then for something really bizarre, are any of the cells being added Merged cells? Try the following. Put values in a set of adjacent cells down 2 columns. Now, merge two empty horizontal cells in the same 2 columns and then use the Format Painter to change the formats of the cells with your pairs of data. Only the left set of numbers in the newly merged cells will show up, but if you highlight the cells and look at the sum in the calculation bar at the bottom of the sheet, it will show the total of not just the visible values on the screen, but also the "invisible" values in the merged cells. I remembered seeing a reference to this in the NG's before, and David McRitchie uncovered the reason why in the thread as shown below. http://snipurl.com/swz8 (thanks Gord!!) It can also be "used" to hide formulae, so maybe there is a hidden formula that "adjusts" the reconciled figure. Could be a good way of "fiddling the books" and hiding the discrepancy!!!! -- Regards Roger Govier "catlover1946" wrote in message ... Thanks for the input. It is good to know. Doing this hides the cell contents, but the formula bar still displays contents of the cell, unless you hide the information displayed in the formula bar, and this trick is easy to reverse, which I did. Nothing. "Roger Govier" wrote: Or FormatCellsNumberCustom;;; (3 semicolons) -- Regards Roger Govier "Biff" wrote in message ... Another trick is using a font size of 1. Biff "JLatham" wrote in message ... Maybe the empty cells aren't really hidden? Perhaps they have text color set to background color, making them appear empty unless you select them at which time their contents will be revealed. "catlover1946" wrote: Excel 2003. Windows XP Professional. Bank reconciliations. How is it possible in an unprotected worksheet to hide additional data input in formulas so that visible invalid numbers produce accurate results? Displaying hidden formulas in formula bar reveals nothing. Blank cells have been included in formula, but searches for hidden numbers and links in these cells produced nothing. I'm at my wit's end to correct this misuse of Excel in my office. Any suggestions? |
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Roger--thanks!! your support is wonderful, and I love uncovering new
processes to try, and I know I will be able to use them in a future undertaking. "Roger Govier" wrote: Well, good luck with your searching. Sorry we haven't been able to throw any light on the discrepancy, but when you do uncover it, be sure to post back to the thread and let us know what the cause was. -- Regards Roger Govier "catlover1946" wrote in message ... Roger--what wonderful suggestions. I tried this "merged cells" with no luck, and also the borders diagonally. Neither turned up anything. I did, however, find in the computer files that for several months, there are two bank reconciliations. One set has incorrect file names, so that there is an unofficial reconciliation under a non-identifying file name, and an official "balanced" reconciliation under a file name in which the contents are easily recognizable. There is no reason for two reconciliations. It either balances or it doesn't. Last year I did a reconciliation behind this person and found completely made-up check amounts which didn't exist any where. Subsequently this person stopped listing outstanding checks and just put in totals of outstanding checks, making them impossible to trace. They did include a calculator tape which supported the amount of O/S checks. The tape is impossible to verify since it refers to nothing except amounts. I'm wondering with two sets of working papers if there is a hiddden link or reference. I only discovered this today, so have not had a chance to pursue this. Thanks so much for your input. This information may very well help uncover future problems. This is all fascinating, and again I thank you for this information. "Roger Govier" wrote: Hi OK, then for something really bizarre, are any of the cells being added Merged cells? Try the following. Put values in a set of adjacent cells down 2 columns. Now, merge two empty horizontal cells in the same 2 columns and then use the Format Painter to change the formats of the cells with your pairs of data. Only the left set of numbers in the newly merged cells will show up, but if you highlight the cells and look at the sum in the calculation bar at the bottom of the sheet, it will show the total of not just the visible values on the screen, but also the "invisible" values in the merged cells. I remembered seeing a reference to this in the NG's before, and David McRitchie uncovered the reason why in the thread as shown below. http://snipurl.com/swz8 (thanks Gord!!) It can also be "used" to hide formulae, so maybe there is a hidden formula that "adjusts" the reconciled figure. Could be a good way of "fiddling the books" and hiding the discrepancy!!!! -- Regards Roger Govier "catlover1946" wrote in message ... Thanks for the input. It is good to know. Doing this hides the cell contents, but the formula bar still displays contents of the cell, unless you hide the information displayed in the formula bar, and this trick is easy to reverse, which I did. Nothing. "Roger Govier" wrote: Or FormatCellsNumberCustom;;; (3 semicolons) -- Regards Roger Govier "Biff" wrote in message ... Another trick is using a font size of 1. Biff "JLatham" wrote in message ... Maybe the empty cells aren't really hidden? Perhaps they have text color set to background color, making them appear empty unless you select them at which time their contents will be revealed. "catlover1946" wrote: Excel 2003. Windows XP Professional. Bank reconciliations. How is it possible in an unprotected worksheet to hide additional data input in formulas so that visible invalid numbers produce accurate results? Displaying hidden formulas in formula bar reveals nothing. Blank cells have been included in formula, but searches for hidden numbers and links in these cells produced nothing. I'm at my wit's end to correct this misuse of Excel in my office. Any suggestions? |
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I've tried one more thing. Open worksheet. Toolsmacrovisual basic
editorviewproject explorerviewproperties window. on last row, check for level of visibility of worksheet. -1 is visible, 2 is very hidden. checking workbook, it shows password. checking viewcode for each sheet shows sub-folders. this is a VBA project and I'm in over my head. All I want to do is a bank reconciliation. Add and subtract. not rocket science. Why 16 worksheets for 12 months? duplicate months viewed side by side appear identical. Why sub-folders to add and subtract? Any way to access sub-folders? Thanks, MMO "Roger Govier" wrote: Well, good luck with your searching. Sorry we haven't been able to throw any light on the discrepancy, but when you do uncover it, be sure to post back to the thread and let us know what the cause was. -- Regards Roger Govier "catlover1946" wrote in message ... Roger--what wonderful suggestions. I tried this "merged cells" with no luck, and also the borders diagonally. Neither turned up anything. I did, however, find in the computer files that for several months, there are two bank reconciliations. One set has incorrect file names, so that there is an unofficial reconciliation under a non-identifying file name, and an official "balanced" reconciliation under a file name in which the contents are easily recognizable. There is no reason for two reconciliations. It either balances or it doesn't. Last year I did a reconciliation behind this person and found completely made-up check amounts which didn't exist any where. Subsequently this person stopped listing outstanding checks and just put in totals of outstanding checks, making them impossible to trace. They did include a calculator tape which supported the amount of O/S checks. The tape is impossible to verify since it refers to nothing except amounts. I'm wondering with two sets of working papers if there is a hiddden link or reference. I only discovered this today, so have not had a chance to pursue this. Thanks so much for your input. This information may very well help uncover future problems. This is all fascinating, and again I thank you for this information. "Roger Govier" wrote: Hi OK, then for something really bizarre, are any of the cells being added Merged cells? Try the following. Put values in a set of adjacent cells down 2 columns. Now, merge two empty horizontal cells in the same 2 columns and then use the Format Painter to change the formats of the cells with your pairs of data. Only the left set of numbers in the newly merged cells will show up, but if you highlight the cells and look at the sum in the calculation bar at the bottom of the sheet, it will show the total of not just the visible values on the screen, but also the "invisible" values in the merged cells. I remembered seeing a reference to this in the NG's before, and David McRitchie uncovered the reason why in the thread as shown below. http://snipurl.com/swz8 (thanks Gord!!) It can also be "used" to hide formulae, so maybe there is a hidden formula that "adjusts" the reconciled figure. Could be a good way of "fiddling the books" and hiding the discrepancy!!!! -- Regards Roger Govier "catlover1946" wrote in message ... Thanks for the input. It is good to know. Doing this hides the cell contents, but the formula bar still displays contents of the cell, unless you hide the information displayed in the formula bar, and this trick is easy to reverse, which I did. Nothing. "Roger Govier" wrote: Or FormatCellsNumberCustom;;; (3 semicolons) -- Regards Roger Govier "Biff" wrote in message ... Another trick is using a font size of 1. Biff "JLatham" wrote in message ... Maybe the empty cells aren't really hidden? Perhaps they have text color set to background color, making them appear empty unless you select them at which time their contents will be revealed. "catlover1946" wrote: Excel 2003. Windows XP Professional. Bank reconciliations. How is it possible in an unprotected worksheet to hide additional data input in formulas so that visible invalid numbers produce accurate results? Displaying hidden formulas in formula bar reveals nothing. Blank cells have been included in formula, but searches for hidden numbers and links in these cells produced nothing. I'm at my wit's end to correct this misuse of Excel in my office. Any suggestions? |
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Hi
I'm not sure what you mean by sub-folders. If you want to mail me a copy of the file direct, I will be happy to take a look and see if I can throw some light on the matter. To email me direct, remove NOSPAM from my email address -- Regards Roger Govier "catlover1946" wrote in message ... I've tried one more thing. Open worksheet. Toolsmacrovisual basic editorviewproject explorerviewproperties window. on last row, check for level of visibility of worksheet. -1 is visible, 2 is very hidden. checking workbook, it shows password. checking viewcode for each sheet shows sub-folders. this is a VBA project and I'm in over my head. All I want to do is a bank reconciliation. Add and subtract. not rocket science. Why 16 worksheets for 12 months? duplicate months viewed side by side appear identical. Why sub-folders to add and subtract? Any way to access sub-folders? Thanks, MMO "Roger Govier" wrote: Well, good luck with your searching. Sorry we haven't been able to throw any light on the discrepancy, but when you do uncover it, be sure to post back to the thread and let us know what the cause was. -- Regards Roger Govier "catlover1946" wrote in message ... Roger--what wonderful suggestions. I tried this "merged cells" with no luck, and also the borders diagonally. Neither turned up anything. I did, however, find in the computer files that for several months, there are two bank reconciliations. One set has incorrect file names, so that there is an unofficial reconciliation under a non-identifying file name, and an official "balanced" reconciliation under a file name in which the contents are easily recognizable. There is no reason for two reconciliations. It either balances or it doesn't. Last year I did a reconciliation behind this person and found completely made-up check amounts which didn't exist any where. Subsequently this person stopped listing outstanding checks and just put in totals of outstanding checks, making them impossible to trace. They did include a calculator tape which supported the amount of O/S checks. The tape is impossible to verify since it refers to nothing except amounts. I'm wondering with two sets of working papers if there is a hiddden link or reference. I only discovered this today, so have not had a chance to pursue this. Thanks so much for your input. This information may very well help uncover future problems. This is all fascinating, and again I thank you for this information. "Roger Govier" wrote: Hi OK, then for something really bizarre, are any of the cells being added Merged cells? Try the following. Put values in a set of adjacent cells down 2 columns. Now, merge two empty horizontal cells in the same 2 columns and then use the Format Painter to change the formats of the cells with your pairs of data. Only the left set of numbers in the newly merged cells will show up, but if you highlight the cells and look at the sum in the calculation bar at the bottom of the sheet, it will show the total of not just the visible values on the screen, but also the "invisible" values in the merged cells. I remembered seeing a reference to this in the NG's before, and David McRitchie uncovered the reason why in the thread as shown below. http://snipurl.com/swz8 (thanks Gord!!) It can also be "used" to hide formulae, so maybe there is a hidden formula that "adjusts" the reconciled figure. Could be a good way of "fiddling the books" and hiding the discrepancy!!!! -- Regards Roger Govier "catlover1946" wrote in message ... Thanks for the input. It is good to know. Doing this hides the cell contents, but the formula bar still displays contents of the cell, unless you hide the information displayed in the formula bar, and this trick is easy to reverse, which I did. Nothing. "Roger Govier" wrote: Or FormatCellsNumberCustom;;; (3 semicolons) -- Regards Roger Govier "Biff" wrote in message ... Another trick is using a font size of 1. Biff "JLatham" wrote in message ... Maybe the empty cells aren't really hidden? Perhaps they have text color set to background color, making them appear empty unless you select them at which time their contents will be revealed. "catlover1946" wrote: Excel 2003. Windows XP Professional. Bank reconciliations. How is it possible in an unprotected worksheet to hide additional data input in formulas so that visible invalid numbers produce accurate results? Displaying hidden formulas in formula bar reveals nothing. Blank cells have been included in formula, but searches for hidden numbers and links in these cells produced nothing. I'm at my wit's end to correct this misuse of Excel in my office. Any suggestions? |
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Roger--thanks for hanging in with a novice. I'm not sure what is meant by
subfolders, either. I checked the security settings on the office computer and found that in the folder "Treasurer's files" I have permission to view only that folder and no subfolders or files. When in VBE, I did viewcode and every worksheet had actions done through a sub-folder. I have no idea how or why this was set up. Reconciling a bank statemement is a straightforward process of adding and subtracting. on the June 2006 reconciliation I will make a note or two to point out why thebank statemetn couldn't possibly balance. I was unaware of the fact this is a VBA project until I went into VBE. There are a lot of duplicate files saved on the office computer, which makes for more confusion. There is a file for 2005, a file for 2006, but in the 2006 file the 2005 information is available because it is a VBA project. Then several months . One January reconciliation showed we were more than $7000 out of balance, then miraculously another reconciliation appeared which showed we balanced to the penny. While getting my MBA, I did some programming in BASIC, so with a little refreshment I may be able to unravel this. Properties show that a lot of these documents were created at Heifer International as opposed to St. Michael's. I imagine she took a process they used and just made a new VBA project from what template they used, which would explain the document being originated at Heifer. Sorry to ramble on. Will attach only the VBA file, so will not cause a lot of confusion with extra "stuff". Thanks for taking a look at this. mmo "Roger Govier" wrote: Hi I'm not sure what you mean by sub-folders. If you want to mail me a copy of the file direct, I will be happy to take a look and see if I can throw some light on the matter. To email me direct, remove NOSPAM from my email address -- Regards Roger Govier "catlover1946" wrote in message ... I've tried one more thing. Open worksheet. Toolsmacrovisual basic editorviewproject explorerviewproperties window. on last row, check for level of visibility of worksheet. -1 is visible, 2 is very hidden. checking workbook, it shows password. checking viewcode for each sheet shows sub-folders. this is a VBA project and I'm in over my head. All I want to do is a bank reconciliation. Add and subtract. not rocket science. Why 16 worksheets for 12 months? duplicate months viewed side by side appear identical. Why sub-folders to add and subtract? Any way to access sub-folders? Thanks, MMO "Roger Govier" wrote: Well, good luck with your searching. Sorry we haven't been able to throw any light on the discrepancy, but when you do uncover it, be sure to post back to the thread and let us know what the cause was. -- Regards Roger Govier "catlover1946" wrote in message ... Roger--what wonderful suggestions. I tried this "merged cells" with no luck, and also the borders diagonally. Neither turned up anything. I did, however, find in the computer files that for several months, there are two bank reconciliations. One set has incorrect file names, so that there is an unofficial reconciliation under a non-identifying file name, and an official "balanced" reconciliation under a file name in which the contents are easily recognizable. There is no reason for two reconciliations. It either balances or it doesn't. Last year I did a reconciliation behind this person and found completely made-up check amounts which didn't exist any where. Subsequently this person stopped listing outstanding checks and just put in totals of outstanding checks, making them impossible to trace. They did include a calculator tape which supported the amount of O/S checks. The tape is impossible to verify since it refers to nothing except amounts. I'm wondering with two sets of working papers if there is a hiddden link or reference. I only discovered this today, so have not had a chance to pursue this. Thanks so much for your input. This information may very well help uncover future problems. This is all fascinating, and again I thank you for this information. "Roger Govier" wrote: Hi OK, then for something really bizarre, are any of the cells being added Merged cells? Try the following. Put values in a set of adjacent cells down 2 columns. Now, merge two empty horizontal cells in the same 2 columns and then use the Format Painter to change the formats of the cells with your pairs of data. Only the left set of numbers in the newly merged cells will show up, but if you highlight the cells and look at the sum in the calculation bar at the bottom of the sheet, it will show the total of not just the visible values on the screen, but also the "invisible" values in the merged cells. I remembered seeing a reference to this in the NG's before, and David McRitchie uncovered the reason why in the thread as shown below. http://snipurl.com/swz8 (thanks Gord!!) It can also be "used" to hide formulae, so maybe there is a hidden formula that "adjusts" the reconciled figure. Could be a good way of "fiddling the books" and hiding the discrepancy!!!! -- Regards Roger Govier "catlover1946" wrote in message ... Thanks for the input. It is good to know. Doing this hides the cell contents, but the formula bar still displays contents of the cell, unless you hide the information displayed in the formula bar, and this trick is easy to reverse, which I did. Nothing. "Roger Govier" wrote: Or FormatCellsNumberCustom;;; (3 semicolons) -- Regards Roger Govier "Biff" wrote in message ... Another trick is using a font size of 1. Biff "JLatham" wrote in message ... Maybe the empty cells aren't really hidden? Perhaps they have text color set to background color, making them appear empty unless you select them at which time their contents will be revealed. "catlover1946" wrote: Excel 2003. Windows XP Professional. Bank reconciliations. How is it possible in an unprotected worksheet to hide additional data input in formulas so that visible invalid numbers produce accurate results? Displaying hidden formulas in formula bar reveals nothing. Blank cells have been included in formula, but searches for hidden numbers and links in these cells produced nothing. I'm at my wit's end to correct this misuse of Excel in my office. Any suggestions? |
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I think Roger is probably more than capable of analyzing the code, but if
either of you want's another hand at it, I've got reply notify set on this posting and I'd be glad to try to help. I kind of agree with the ??? about VB coding in a straight ledger type of setup - but they may have coded some stuff as 'helper' code, and like you say, trying to follow the model of the previous setup from HI may be the reason -- perhaps the skill didn't exist to modify it in some ways and they were forced into setting up the entire scheme as it was provided to them. The company work for is routinely audited by the DCAA and I guarantee if we 'hid' some calculations from them, there would be serious issues raised. I'm working now to create a middle-ware application to process corporate timesheet data for entry into the accounting system, and we're taking great precautions on it to make sure that nothing is hidden - and I have suggested to the corp sr management that they either get a consultant or other source within the company to review all code that I develop, just so they can rest assured that I haven't done something like "take $0.25 from all employees; add said $0.25 (* #ofEmployees) to programmer's Gross Pay" every payday or something like that. But the code project will be locked down with password, that will be stored in secure area so that only authorized individuals will have access to it. "catlover1946" wrote: Roger--thanks for hanging in with a novice. I'm not sure what is meant by subfolders, either. I checked the security settings on the office computer and found that in the folder "Treasurer's files" I have permission to view only that folder and no subfolders or files. When in VBE, I did viewcode and every worksheet had actions done through a sub-folder. I have no idea how or why this was set up. Reconciling a bank statemement is a straightforward process of adding and subtracting. on the June 2006 reconciliation I will make a note or two to point out why thebank statemetn couldn't possibly balance. I was unaware of the fact this is a VBA project until I went into VBE. There are a lot of duplicate files saved on the office computer, which makes for more confusion. There is a file for 2005, a file for 2006, but in the 2006 file the 2005 information is available because it is a VBA project. Then several months . One January reconciliation showed we were more than $7000 out of balance, then miraculously another reconciliation appeared which showed we balanced to the penny. While getting my MBA, I did some programming in BASIC, so with a little refreshment I may be able to unravel this. Properties show that a lot of these documents were created at Heifer International as opposed to St. Michael's. I imagine she took a process they used and just made a new VBA project from what template they used, which would explain the document being originated at Heifer. Sorry to ramble on. Will attach only the VBA file, so will not cause a lot of confusion with extra "stuff". Thanks for taking a look at this. mmo "Roger Govier" wrote: Hi I'm not sure what you mean by sub-folders. If you want to mail me a copy of the file direct, I will be happy to take a look and see if I can throw some light on the matter. To email me direct, remove NOSPAM from my email address -- Regards Roger Govier "catlover1946" wrote in message ... I've tried one more thing. Open worksheet. Toolsmacrovisual basic editorviewproject explorerviewproperties window. on last row, check for level of visibility of worksheet. -1 is visible, 2 is very hidden. checking workbook, it shows password. checking viewcode for each sheet shows sub-folders. this is a VBA project and I'm in over my head. All I want to do is a bank reconciliation. Add and subtract. not rocket science. Why 16 worksheets for 12 months? duplicate months viewed side by side appear identical. Why sub-folders to add and subtract? Any way to access sub-folders? Thanks, MMO "Roger Govier" wrote: Well, good luck with your searching. Sorry we haven't been able to throw any light on the discrepancy, but when you do uncover it, be sure to post back to the thread and let us know what the cause was. -- Regards Roger Govier "catlover1946" wrote in message ... Roger--what wonderful suggestions. I tried this "merged cells" with no luck, and also the borders diagonally. Neither turned up anything. I did, however, find in the computer files that for several months, there are two bank reconciliations. One set has incorrect file names, so that there is an unofficial reconciliation under a non-identifying file name, and an official "balanced" reconciliation under a file name in which the contents are easily recognizable. There is no reason for two reconciliations. It either balances or it doesn't. Last year I did a reconciliation behind this person and found completely made-up check amounts which didn't exist any where. Subsequently this person stopped listing outstanding checks and just put in totals of outstanding checks, making them impossible to trace. They did include a calculator tape which supported the amount of O/S checks. The tape is impossible to verify since it refers to nothing except amounts. I'm wondering with two sets of working papers if there is a hiddden link or reference. I only discovered this today, so have not had a chance to pursue this. Thanks so much for your input. This information may very well help uncover future problems. This is all fascinating, and again I thank you for this information. "Roger Govier" wrote: Hi OK, then for something really bizarre, are any of the cells being added Merged cells? Try the following. Put values in a set of adjacent cells down 2 columns. Now, merge two empty horizontal cells in the same 2 columns and then use the Format Painter to change the formats of the cells with your pairs of data. Only the left set of numbers in the newly merged cells will show up, but if you highlight the cells and look at the sum in the calculation bar at the bottom of the sheet, it will show the total of not just the visible values on the screen, but also the "invisible" values in the merged cells. I remembered seeing a reference to this in the NG's before, and David McRitchie uncovered the reason why in the thread as shown below. http://snipurl.com/swz8 (thanks Gord!!) It can also be "used" to hide formulae, so maybe there is a hidden formula that "adjusts" the reconciled figure. Could be a good way of "fiddling the books" and hiding the discrepancy!!!! -- Regards Roger Govier "catlover1946" wrote in message ... Thanks for the input. It is good to know. Doing this hides the cell contents, but the formula bar still displays contents of the cell, unless you hide the information displayed in the formula bar, and this trick is easy to reverse, which I did. Nothing. "Roger Govier" wrote: Or FormatCellsNumberCustom;;; (3 semicolons) -- Regards Roger Govier "Biff" wrote in message ... Another trick is using a font size of 1. Biff "JLatham" wrote in message ... Maybe the empty cells aren't really hidden? Perhaps they have text color set to background color, making them appear empty unless you select them at which time their contents will be revealed. "catlover1946" wrote: Excel 2003. Windows XP Professional. Bank reconciliations. How is it possible in an unprotected worksheet to hide additional data input in formulas so that visible invalid numbers produce accurate results? Displaying hidden formulas in formula bar reveals nothing. Blank cells have been included in formula, but searches for hidden numbers and links in these cells produced nothing. I'm at my wit's end to correct this misuse of Excel in my office. Any suggestions? |
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Hi
Maybe you sent me the wrong file. I cannot see a single line of code in any worksheet, nor This Workbook, nor is there any added module, user form or class module within the workbook. You must be looking at a different file to the one you mailed me. -- Regards Roger Govier "catlover1946" wrote in message ... Roger--thanks for hanging in with a novice. I'm not sure what is meant by subfolders, either. I checked the security settings on the office computer and found that in the folder "Treasurer's files" I have permission to view only that folder and no subfolders or files. When in VBE, I did viewcode and every worksheet had actions done through a sub-folder. I have no idea how or why this was set up. Reconciling a bank statemement is a straightforward process of adding and subtracting. on the June 2006 reconciliation I will make a note or two to point out why thebank statemetn couldn't possibly balance. I was unaware of the fact this is a VBA project until I went into VBE. There are a lot of duplicate files saved on the office computer, which makes for more confusion. There is a file for 2005, a file for 2006, but in the 2006 file the 2005 information is available because it is a VBA project. Then several months . One January reconciliation showed we were more than $7000 out of balance, then miraculously another reconciliation appeared which showed we balanced to the penny. While getting my MBA, I did some programming in BASIC, so with a little refreshment I may be able to unravel this. Properties show that a lot of these documents were created at Heifer International as opposed to St. Michael's. I imagine she took a process they used and just made a new VBA project from what template they used, which would explain the document being originated at Heifer. Sorry to ramble on. Will attach only the VBA file, so will not cause a lot of confusion with extra "stuff". Thanks for taking a look at this. mmo "Roger Govier" wrote: Hi I'm not sure what you mean by sub-folders. If you want to mail me a copy of the file direct, I will be happy to take a look and see if I can throw some light on the matter. To email me direct, remove NOSPAM from my email address -- Regards Roger Govier "catlover1946" wrote in message ... I've tried one more thing. Open worksheet. Toolsmacrovisual basic editorviewproject explorerviewproperties window. on last row, check for level of visibility of worksheet. -1 is visible, 2 is very hidden. checking workbook, it shows password. checking viewcode for each sheet shows sub-folders. this is a VBA project and I'm in over my head. All I want to do is a bank reconciliation. Add and subtract. not rocket science. Why 16 worksheets for 12 months? duplicate months viewed side by side appear identical. Why sub-folders to add and subtract? Any way to access sub-folders? Thanks, MMO "Roger Govier" wrote: Well, good luck with your searching. Sorry we haven't been able to throw any light on the discrepancy, but when you do uncover it, be sure to post back to the thread and let us know what the cause was. -- Regards Roger Govier "catlover1946" wrote in message ... Roger--what wonderful suggestions. I tried this "merged cells" with no luck, and also the borders diagonally. Neither turned up anything. I did, however, find in the computer files that for several months, there are two bank reconciliations. One set has incorrect file names, so that there is an unofficial reconciliation under a non-identifying file name, and an official "balanced" reconciliation under a file name in which the contents are easily recognizable. There is no reason for two reconciliations. It either balances or it doesn't. Last year I did a reconciliation behind this person and found completely made-up check amounts which didn't exist any where. Subsequently this person stopped listing outstanding checks and just put in totals of outstanding checks, making them impossible to trace. They did include a calculator tape which supported the amount of O/S checks. The tape is impossible to verify since it refers to nothing except amounts. I'm wondering with two sets of working papers if there is a hiddden link or reference. I only discovered this today, so have not had a chance to pursue this. Thanks so much for your input. This information may very well help uncover future problems. This is all fascinating, and again I thank you for this information. "Roger Govier" wrote: Hi OK, then for something really bizarre, are any of the cells being added Merged cells? Try the following. Put values in a set of adjacent cells down 2 columns. Now, merge two empty horizontal cells in the same 2 columns and then use the Format Painter to change the formats of the cells with your pairs of data. Only the left set of numbers in the newly merged cells will show up, but if you highlight the cells and look at the sum in the calculation bar at the bottom of the sheet, it will show the total of not just the visible values on the screen, but also the "invisible" values in the merged cells. I remembered seeing a reference to this in the NG's before, and David McRitchie uncovered the reason why in the thread as shown below. http://snipurl.com/swz8 (thanks Gord!!) It can also be "used" to hide formulae, so maybe there is a hidden formula that "adjusts" the reconciled figure. Could be a good way of "fiddling the books" and hiding the discrepancy!!!! -- Regards Roger Govier "catlover1946" wrote in message ... Thanks for the input. It is good to know. Doing this hides the cell contents, but the formula bar still displays contents of the cell, unless you hide the information displayed in the formula bar, and this trick is easy to reverse, which I did. Nothing. "Roger Govier" wrote: Or FormatCellsNumberCustom;;; (3 semicolons) -- Regards Roger Govier "Biff" wrote in message ... Another trick is using a font size of 1. Biff "JLatham" wrote in message ... Maybe the empty cells aren't really hidden? Perhaps they have text color set to background color, making them appear empty unless you select them at which time their contents will be revealed. "catlover1946" wrote: Excel 2003. Windows XP Professional. Bank reconciliations. How is it possible in an unprotected worksheet to hide additional data input in formulas so that visible invalid numbers produce accurate results? Displaying hidden formulas in formula bar reveals nothing. Blank cells have been included in formula, but searches for hidden numbers and links in these cells produced nothing. I'm at my wit's end to correct this misuse of Excel in my office. Any suggestions? |
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Roger has offered good insights. The major problem is that I really don't
know what I'm doing in Excel. I recently discovered that at one time when our bank statements were issued from the middle of one month to the other (1/18/05 thru 2/17/05) rather than one month from 1/1/05 thru 1/31/05, she was using the 1/31 date from the GL, and the 1/17 date from the bank statement. A first year accounting student would know this is like comparing apples and oranges. There is so much stuff to review, and I seem to have so little time to work on this. The problems seem endless. I have played with the worksheets so much, I forget what's on each one, although I try to save with a name to indicate what they are. I get macro warnings where no macros exist, even when workbook says "contains macros", with security lowered. I do not believe at this point that there is any hidden data, but I'm still having a hard time understanding what's going on."The best indicator of future behavior is past behavior." She previously "made up" amounts to enter in the reconciliation to force it to balance. It's just a matter of time until I find this problem. I will probably obtain new copies of workbooks which I have not "fiddled with" so I can take a fresh look with the original data. Thanks for the offer. I'll see what shows up with a fresh look at the material. mmo "JLatham" wrote: I think Roger is probably more than capable of analyzing the code, but if either of you want's another hand at it, I've got reply notify set on this posting and I'd be glad to try to help. I kind of agree with the ??? about VB coding in a straight ledger type of setup - but they may have coded some stuff as 'helper' code, and like you say, trying to follow the model of the previous setup from HI may be the reason -- perhaps the skill didn't exist to modify it in some ways and they were forced into setting up the entire scheme as it was provided to them. The company work for is routinely audited by the DCAA and I guarantee if we 'hid' some calculations from them, there would be serious issues raised. I'm working now to create a middle-ware application to process corporate timesheet data for entry into the accounting system, and we're taking great precautions on it to make sure that nothing is hidden - and I have suggested to the corp sr management that they either get a consultant or other source within the company to review all code that I develop, just so they can rest assured that I haven't done something like "take $0.25 from all employees; add said $0.25 (* #ofEmployees) to programmer's Gross Pay" every payday or something like that. But the code project will be locked down with password, that will be stored in secure area so that only authorized individuals will have access to it. "catlover1946" wrote: Roger--thanks for hanging in with a novice. I'm not sure what is meant by subfolders, either. I checked the security settings on the office computer and found that in the folder "Treasurer's files" I have permission to view only that folder and no subfolders or files. When in VBE, I did viewcode and every worksheet had actions done through a sub-folder. I have no idea how or why this was set up. Reconciling a bank statemement is a straightforward process of adding and subtracting. on the June 2006 reconciliation I will make a note or two to point out why thebank statemetn couldn't possibly balance. I was unaware of the fact this is a VBA project until I went into VBE. There are a lot of duplicate files saved on the office computer, which makes for more confusion. There is a file for 2005, a file for 2006, but in the 2006 file the 2005 information is available because it is a VBA project. Then several months . One January reconciliation showed we were more than $7000 out of balance, then miraculously another reconciliation appeared which showed we balanced to the penny. While getting my MBA, I did some programming in BASIC, so with a little refreshment I may be able to unravel this. Properties show that a lot of these documents were created at Heifer International as opposed to St. Michael's. I imagine she took a process they used and just made a new VBA project from what template they used, which would explain the document being originated at Heifer. Sorry to ramble on. Will attach only the VBA file, so will not cause a lot of confusion with extra "stuff". Thanks for taking a look at this. mmo "Roger Govier" wrote: Hi I'm not sure what you mean by sub-folders. If you want to mail me a copy of the file direct, I will be happy to take a look and see if I can throw some light on the matter. To email me direct, remove NOSPAM from my email address -- Regards Roger Govier "catlover1946" wrote in message ... I've tried one more thing. Open worksheet. Toolsmacrovisual basic editorviewproject explorerviewproperties window. on last row, check for level of visibility of worksheet. -1 is visible, 2 is very hidden. checking workbook, it shows password. checking viewcode for each sheet shows sub-folders. this is a VBA project and I'm in over my head. All I want to do is a bank reconciliation. Add and subtract. not rocket science. Why 16 worksheets for 12 months? duplicate months viewed side by side appear identical. Why sub-folders to add and subtract? Any way to access sub-folders? Thanks, MMO "Roger Govier" wrote: Well, good luck with your searching. Sorry we haven't been able to throw any light on the discrepancy, but when you do uncover it, be sure to post back to the thread and let us know what the cause was. -- Regards Roger Govier "catlover1946" wrote in message ... Roger--what wonderful suggestions. I tried this "merged cells" with no luck, and also the borders diagonally. Neither turned up anything. I did, however, find in the computer files that for several months, there are two bank reconciliations. One set has incorrect file names, so that there is an unofficial reconciliation under a non-identifying file name, and an official "balanced" reconciliation under a file name in which the contents are easily recognizable. There is no reason for two reconciliations. It either balances or it doesn't. Last year I did a reconciliation behind this person and found completely made-up check amounts which didn't exist any where. Subsequently this person stopped listing outstanding checks and just put in totals of outstanding checks, making them impossible to trace. They did include a calculator tape which supported the amount of O/S checks. The tape is impossible to verify since it refers to nothing except amounts. I'm wondering with two sets of working papers if there is a hiddden link or reference. I only discovered this today, so have not had a chance to pursue this. Thanks so much for your input. This information may very well help uncover future problems. This is all fascinating, and again I thank you for this information. "Roger Govier" wrote: Hi OK, then for something really bizarre, are any of the cells being added Merged cells? Try the following. Put values in a set of adjacent cells down 2 columns. Now, merge two empty horizontal cells in the same 2 columns and then use the Format Painter to change the formats of the cells with your pairs of data. Only the left set of numbers in the newly merged cells will show up, but if you highlight the cells and look at the sum in the calculation bar at the bottom of the sheet, it will show the total of not just the visible values on the screen, but also the "invisible" values in the merged cells. I remembered seeing a reference to this in the NG's before, and David McRitchie uncovered the reason why in the thread as shown below. http://snipurl.com/swz8 (thanks Gord!!) It can also be "used" to hide formulae, so maybe there is a hidden formula that "adjusts" the reconciled figure. Could be a good way of "fiddling the books" and hiding the discrepancy!!!! -- Regards Roger Govier "catlover1946" wrote in message ... Thanks for the input. It is good to know. Doing this hides the cell contents, but the formula bar still displays contents of the cell, unless you hide the information displayed in the formula bar, and this trick is easy to reverse, which I did. Nothing. "Roger Govier" wrote: Or FormatCellsNumberCustom;;; (3 semicolons) -- Regards Roger Govier "Biff" wrote in message ... Another trick is using a font size of 1. Biff "JLatham" wrote in message ... Maybe the empty cells aren't really hidden? Perhaps they have text color set to background color, making them appear empty unless you select them at which time their contents will be revealed. "catlover1946" wrote: Excel 2003. Windows XP Professional. Bank reconciliations. How is it possible in an unprotected worksheet to hide additional data input in formulas so that visible invalid numbers produce accurate results? Displaying hidden formulas in formula bar reveals nothing. Blank cells have been included in formula, but searches for hidden numbers and links in these cells produced nothing. I'm at my wit's end to correct this misuse of Excel in my office. Any suggestions? |
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