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Date fomula not working
I have use this last year, it's fine until now. the formula is now new to Ron,
=DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)) That is, I enter a month and day in A2 and it will appear as last year's date, but now nothing changes, still in default year 2009. Please advise. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia |
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.. I enter a month and day in A2
I'm not sure what your expression computes but A2 must contain a real date, not just any sort of number. A real date is a full valid, unambiguous date (day-month-year) recognized by Excel, eg: 01-Jan-2009. Try re-entering a real date into A2. -- Max Singapore http://savefile.com/projects/236895 Downloads:23,000 Files:370 Subscribers:66 xdemechanik --- "FangYR" wrote: I have use this last year, it's fine until now. the formula is now new to Ron, =DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)) That is, I enter a month and day in A2 and it will appear as last year's date, but now nothing changes, still in default year 2009. Please advise |
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Your formula works for me. I entered 3/1 (March 1st) in to A2, and got
2008-03-01 in my target cell. So your problem must be you are not entering the date correctly. Regards, Fred. "FangYR" wrote in message ... I have use this last year, it's fine until now. the formula is now new to Ron, =DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)) That is, I enter a month and day in A2 and it will appear as last year's date, but now nothing changes, still in default year 2009. Please advise. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia |
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Hi,
The function is calculating the date one year prior with and adjustment for leap years. It works as written. However you might consider using the following which does exactly the same thing: =EDATE(A2,-12) In Excel 2003 or earlier you will need to attach the ATP - Tools, Add-Ins, and check Analysis ToolPak. In 2007 nothing to do. -- If this helps, please click the Yes button Cheers, Shane Devenshire "FangYR" wrote: I have use this last year, it's fine until now. the formula is now new to Ron, =DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)) That is, I enter a month and day in A2 and it will appear as last year's date, but now nothing changes, still in default year 2009. Please advise. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia |
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I'm pretty sure this simpler (than the original) non-ATP formula will also
work... =A2-365-(DAY(A2)<DAY(A2-365)) -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "Shane Devenshire" wrote in message ... Hi, The function is calculating the date one year prior with and adjustment for leap years. It works as written. However you might consider using the following which does exactly the same thing: =EDATE(A2,-12) In Excel 2003 or earlier you will need to attach the ATP - Tools, Add-Ins, and check Analysis ToolPak. In 2007 nothing to do. -- If this helps, please click the Yes button Cheers, Shane Devenshire "FangYR" wrote: I have use this last year, it's fine until now. the formula is now new to Ron, =DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)) That is, I enter a month and day in A2 and it will appear as last year's date, but now nothing changes, still in default year 2009. Please advise. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia |
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Good one, Rick.
Regards, Fred. "Rick Rothstein" wrote in message ... I'm pretty sure this simpler (than the original) non-ATP formula will also work... =A2-365-(DAY(A2)<DAY(A2-365)) -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "Shane Devenshire" wrote in message ... Hi, The function is calculating the date one year prior with and adjustment for leap years. It works as written. However you might consider using the following which does exactly the same thing: =EDATE(A2,-12) In Excel 2003 or earlier you will need to attach the ATP - Tools, Add-Ins, and check Analysis ToolPak. In 2007 nothing to do. -- If this helps, please click the Yes button Cheers, Shane Devenshire "FangYR" wrote: I have use this last year, it's fine until now. the formula is now new to Ron, =DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)) That is, I enter a month and day in A2 and it will appear as last year's date, but now nothing changes, still in default year 2009. Please advise. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia |
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I am back again.
Thanks to all of you. I tried according to all your advices but it did'nt work as it did before, even when trying on in older worksheets which worked fine, then. I thing somthing "add-ons" sre missing. Let me try on that, then come back to you all. Thanks again -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Fred Smith" wrote: Good one, Rick. Regards, Fred. "Rick Rothstein" wrote in message ... I'm pretty sure this simpler (than the original) non-ATP formula will also work... =A2-365-(DAY(A2)<DAY(A2-365)) -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "Shane Devenshire" wrote in message ... Hi, The function is calculating the date one year prior with and adjustment for leap years. It works as written. However you might consider using the following which does exactly the same thing: =EDATE(A2,-12) In Excel 2003 or earlier you will need to attach the ATP - Tools, Add-Ins, and check Analysis ToolPak. In 2007 nothing to do. -- If this helps, please click the Yes button Cheers, Shane Devenshire "FangYR" wrote: I have use this last year, it's fine until now. the formula is now new to Ron, =DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)) That is, I enter a month and day in A2 and it will appear as last year's date, but now nothing changes, still in default year 2009. Please advise. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia |
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Hi All,
I have checked "Add-ons", install all, yet same result. to be specific, cell G2, the formula, in A2, I enter "1/3" (ie 3th Jan) and I expect A2 to read "3 Jan 2008", but "3 Jan 2009" appeared. Driving me cracy. Any thing I might have miss out? -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Fred Smith" wrote: Your formula works for me. I entered 3/1 (March 1st) in to A2, and got 2008-03-01 in my target cell. So your problem must be you are not entering the date correctly. Regards, Fred. "FangYR" wrote in message ... I have use this last year, it's fine until now. the formula is now new to Ron, =DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)) That is, I enter a month and day in A2 and it will appear as last year's date, but now nothing changes, still in default year 2009. Please advise. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia |
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Did you try this formula (which I posted earlier)?
=A2-365-(DAY(A2)<DAY(A2-365)) I cannot find a way to not make it work, although you may want to use the formula set up this way... =IF(A2="","",A2-365-(DAY(A2)<DAY(A2-365))) so that it won't error out for empty cells (if you decide to copy it down in anticipation of future date entries). Give it a try. -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... I am back again. Thanks to all of you. I tried according to all your advices but it did'nt work as it did before, even when trying on in older worksheets which worked fine, then. I thing somthing "add-ons" sre missing. Let me try on that, then come back to you all. Thanks again -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Fred Smith" wrote: Good one, Rick. Regards, Fred. "Rick Rothstein" wrote in message ... I'm pretty sure this simpler (than the original) non-ATP formula will also work... =A2-365-(DAY(A2)<DAY(A2-365)) -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "Shane Devenshire" wrote in message ... Hi, The function is calculating the date one year prior with and adjustment for leap years. It works as written. However you might consider using the following which does exactly the same thing: =EDATE(A2,-12) In Excel 2003 or earlier you will need to attach the ATP - Tools, Add-Ins, and check Analysis ToolPak. In 2007 nothing to do. -- If this helps, please click the Yes button Cheers, Shane Devenshire "FangYR" wrote: I have use this last year, it's fine until now. the formula is now new to Ron, =DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)) That is, I enter a month and day in A2 and it will appear as last year's date, but now nothing changes, still in default year 2009. Please advise. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia |
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Hi All,
I have checked "Add-ons", install all, yet same result. to be specific, cell G2, the formula, in A2, I enter "1/3" (ie 3th Jan) and I expect A2 to read "3 Jan 2008", but "3 Jan 2009" appeared. Driving me cracy. Any thing I might have miss out? -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "FangYR" wrote: I am back again. Thanks to all of you. I tried according to all your advices but it did'nt work as it did before, even when trying on in older worksheets which worked fine, then. I thing somthing "add-ons" sre missing. Let me try on that, then come back to you all. Thanks again -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Fred Smith" wrote: Good one, Rick. Regards, Fred. "Rick Rothstein" wrote in message ... I'm pretty sure this simpler (than the original) non-ATP formula will also work... =A2-365-(DAY(A2)<DAY(A2-365)) -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "Shane Devenshire" wrote in message ... Hi, The function is calculating the date one year prior with and adjustment for leap years. It works as written. However you might consider using the following which does exactly the same thing: =EDATE(A2,-12) In Excel 2003 or earlier you will need to attach the ATP - Tools, Add-Ins, and check Analysis ToolPak. In 2007 nothing to do. -- If this helps, please click the Yes button Cheers, Shane Devenshire "FangYR" wrote: I have use this last year, it's fine until now. the formula is now new to Ron, =DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)) That is, I enter a month and day in A2 and it will appear as last year's date, but now nothing changes, still in default year 2009. Please advise. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia |
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.. in A2, I enter "1/3" (ie 3th Jan) and I expect A2 to
read "3 Jan 2008", but "3 Jan 2009" appeared. well, that was precisely my point/sugegstion to you in my earlier response, A real date is a full valid, unambiguous date (day-month-year) recognized by Excel, eg: 01-Jan-2009. If you always practice entering dates as full dates, you won't get caught out with ambiguities such as what happened as you described. If you don't enter the date with the year in it - that's what you did, Excel will then assume the year is the current year (from the PC's clock), hence you get: "3 Jan 2009". You got "3 Jan 2008" previously because you entered it sometime last year (in 2008). Take my suggestion, never skimp on the data entry step when it comes to dates. Always enter it unambiguously in full, inclusive of the year, and use "mmm" format to denote the month as well in the date entry. -- Max Singapore http://savefile.com/projects/236895 Downloads:23,000 Files:370 Subscribers:66 xdemechanik --- |
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On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:46:01 -0800, FangYR
wrote: Hi All, I have checked "Add-ons", install all, yet same result. to be specific, cell G2, the formula, in A2, I enter "1/3" (ie 3th Jan) and I expect A2 to read "3 Jan 2008", but "3 Jan 2009" appeared. Driving me cracy. Any thing I might have miss out? -- Regards FangYR Malaysia If you enter 1/3 in A2, Excel will append the current year so you will see 3 Jan 2009 in A2. This is normal behavior. However, your formula result will be 3 Jan 2008 --ron |
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I place the formula in G2, format cell A2 as dd-mmm-yyyy. whatever date style
I enter, the year is still "2009". It refuse to compute! Ai!!! -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Max" wrote: .. in A2, I enter "1/3" (ie 3th Jan) and I expect A2 to read "3 Jan 2008", but "3 Jan 2009" appeared. well, that was precisely my point/sugegstion to you in my earlier response, A real date is a full valid, unambiguous date (day-month-year) recognized by Excel, eg: 01-Jan-2009. If you always practice entering dates as full dates, you won't get caught out with ambiguities such as what happened as you described. If you don't enter the date with the year in it - that's what you did, Excel will then assume the year is the current year (from the PC's clock), hence you get: "3 Jan 2009". You got "3 Jan 2008" previously because you entered it sometime last year (in 2008). Take my suggestion, never skimp on the data entry step when it comes to dates. Always enter it unambiguously in full, inclusive of the year, and use "mmm" format to denote the month as well in the date entry. -- Max Singapore http://savefile.com/projects/236895 Downloads:23,000 Files:370 Subscribers:66 xdemechanik --- |
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Fang,
If you meant to enter the date: 3 Jan 2008 into A2, Don't enter the date like this: 1/3 << no good, ambiguous Always enter dates in FULL like this: 3 Jan 2008 -- Max Singapore http://savefile.com/projects/236895 Downloads:23,000 Files:370 Subscribers:66 xdemechanik --- "FangYR" wrote in message ... I place the formula in G2, format cell A2 as dd-mmm-yyyy. whatever date style I enter, the year is still "2009". It refuse to compute! Ai!!! |
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You'll need to tell us precisely what values you've got in which cells.
If you use the formula =A2 and format as General, what number do you have? If you use the formula =G2 and format as General, what number do you have? -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... I place the formula in G2, format cell A2 as dd-mmm-yyyy. whatever date style I enter, the year is still "2009". It refuse to compute! Ai!!! -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Max" wrote: .. in A2, I enter "1/3" (ie 3th Jan) and I expect A2 to read "3 Jan 2008", but "3 Jan 2009" appeared. well, that was precisely my point/sugegstion to you in my earlier response, A real date is a full valid, unambiguous date (day-month-year) recognized by Excel, eg: 01-Jan-2009. If you always practice entering dates as full dates, you won't get caught out with ambiguities such as what happened as you described. If you don't enter the date with the year in it - that's what you did, Excel will then assume the year is the current year (from the PC's clock), hence you get: "3 Jan 2009". You got "3 Jan 2008" previously because you entered it sometime last year (in 2008). Take my suggestion, never skimp on the data entry step when it comes to dates. Always enter it unambiguously in full, inclusive of the year, and use "mmm" format to denote the month as well in the date entry. -- Max Singapore http://savefile.com/projects/236895 Downloads:23,000 Files:370 Subscribers:66 xdemechanik --- |
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Now, what I have done last year was, type
=DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)) in G2("a dummy cell"), in order that my date entry in A2 will be as last year, eg. enter 1/3 in A2, it will appear as 3 Jan 2008, not the default current year. This was ok in my last year workbook, ie, the date appear as 2007. Now it's not working. Help! -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: You'll need to tell us precisely what values you've got in which cells. If you use the formula =A2 and format as General, what number do you have? If you use the formula =G2 and format as General, what number do you have? -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... I place the formula in G2, format cell A2 as dd-mmm-yyyy. whatever date style I enter, the year is still "2009". It refuse to compute! Ai!!! -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Max" wrote: .. in A2, I enter "1/3" (ie 3th Jan) and I expect A2 to read "3 Jan 2008", but "3 Jan 2009" appeared. well, that was precisely my point/sugegstion to you in my earlier response, A real date is a full valid, unambiguous date (day-month-year) recognized by Excel, eg: 01-Jan-2009. If you always practice entering dates as full dates, you won't get caught out with ambiguities such as what happened as you described. If you don't enter the date with the year in it - that's what you did, Excel will then assume the year is the current year (from the PC's clock), hence you get: "3 Jan 2009". You got "3 Jan 2008" previously because you entered it sometime last year (in 2008). Take my suggestion, never skimp on the data entry step when it comes to dates. Always enter it unambiguously in full, inclusive of the year, and use "mmm" format to denote the month as well in the date entry. -- Max Singapore http://savefile.com/projects/236895 Downloads:23,000 Files:370 Subscribers:66 xdemechanik --- |
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In G2 ,
=DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)), number appeared, 693231. any idea? -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: You'll need to tell us precisely what values you've got in which cells. If you use the formula =A2 and format as General, what number do you have? If you use the formula =G2 and format as General, what number do you have? -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... I place the formula in G2, format cell A2 as dd-mmm-yyyy. whatever date style I enter, the year is still "2009". It refuse to compute! Ai!!! -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Max" wrote: .. in A2, I enter "1/3" (ie 3th Jan) and I expect A2 to read "3 Jan 2008", but "3 Jan 2009" appeared. well, that was precisely my point/sugegstion to you in my earlier response, A real date is a full valid, unambiguous date (day-month-year) recognized by Excel, eg: 01-Jan-2009. If you always practice entering dates as full dates, you won't get caught out with ambiguities such as what happened as you described. If you don't enter the date with the year in it - that's what you did, Excel will then assume the year is the current year (from the PC's clock), hence you get: "3 Jan 2009". You got "3 Jan 2008" previously because you entered it sometime last year (in 2008). Take my suggestion, never skimp on the data entry step when it comes to dates. Always enter it unambiguously in full, inclusive of the year, and use "mmm" format to denote the month as well in the date entry. -- Max Singapore http://savefile.com/projects/236895 Downloads:23,000 Files:370 Subscribers:66 xdemechanik --- |
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As you didn't answer my questions, I assume that you don't want any further
help. -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... Now, what I have done last year was, type =DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)) in G2("a dummy cell"), in order that my date entry in A2 will be as last year, eg. enter 1/3 in A2, it will appear as 3 Jan 2008, not the default current year. This was ok in my last year workbook, ie, the date appear as 2007. Now it's not working. Help! -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: You'll need to tell us precisely what values you've got in which cells. If you use the formula =A2 and format as General, what number do you have? If you use the formula =G2 and format as General, what number do you have? -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... I place the formula in G2, format cell A2 as dd-mmm-yyyy. whatever date style I enter, the year is still "2009". It refuse to compute! Ai!!! -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Max" wrote: .. in A2, I enter "1/3" (ie 3th Jan) and I expect A2 to read "3 Jan 2008", but "3 Jan 2009" appeared. well, that was precisely my point/sugegstion to you in my earlier response, A real date is a full valid, unambiguous date (day-month-year) recognized by Excel, eg: 01-Jan-2009. If you always practice entering dates as full dates, you won't get caught out with ambiguities such as what happened as you described. If you don't enter the date with the year in it - that's what you did, Excel will then assume the year is the current year (from the PC's clock), hence you get: "3 Jan 2009". You got "3 Jan 2008" previously because you entered it sometime last year (in 2008). Take my suggestion, never skimp on the data entry step when it comes to dates. Always enter it unambiguously in full, inclusive of the year, and use "mmm" format to denote the month as well in the date entry. -- Max Singapore http://savefile.com/projects/236895 Downloads:23,000 Files:370 Subscribers:66 xdemechanik --- |
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Telling us a result without telling us your input is meaningless... exactly
what did you type into A2 to get that 693231 value? -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... In G2 , =DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)), number appeared, 693231. any idea? -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: You'll need to tell us precisely what values you've got in which cells. If you use the formula =A2 and format as General, what number do you have? If you use the formula =G2 and format as General, what number do you have? -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... I place the formula in G2, format cell A2 as dd-mmm-yyyy. whatever date style I enter, the year is still "2009". It refuse to compute! Ai!!! -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Max" wrote: .. in A2, I enter "1/3" (ie 3th Jan) and I expect A2 to read "3 Jan 2008", but "3 Jan 2009" appeared. well, that was precisely my point/sugegstion to you in my earlier response, A real date is a full valid, unambiguous date (day-month-year) recognized by Excel, eg: 01-Jan-2009. If you always practice entering dates as full dates, you won't get caught out with ambiguities such as what happened as you described. If you don't enter the date with the year in it - that's what you did, Excel will then assume the year is the current year (from the PC's clock), hence you get: "3 Jan 2009". You got "3 Jan 2008" previously because you entered it sometime last year (in 2008). Take my suggestion, never skimp on the data entry step when it comes to dates. Always enter it unambiguously in full, inclusive of the year, and use "mmm" format to denote the month as well in the date entry. -- Max Singapore http://savefile.com/projects/236895 Downloads:23,000 Files:370 Subscribers:66 xdemechanik --- |
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A2, 1/3. G2, 693231.
-- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: Telling us a result without telling us your input is meaningless... exactly what did you type into A2 to get that 693231 value? -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... In G2 , =DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)), number appeared, 693231. any idea? -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: You'll need to tell us precisely what values you've got in which cells. If you use the formula =A2 and format as General, what number do you have? If you use the formula =G2 and format as General, what number do you have? -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... I place the formula in G2, format cell A2 as dd-mmm-yyyy. whatever date style I enter, the year is still "2009". It refuse to compute! Ai!!! -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Max" wrote: .. in A2, I enter "1/3" (ie 3th Jan) and I expect A2 to read "3 Jan 2008", but "3 Jan 2009" appeared. well, that was precisely my point/sugegstion to you in my earlier response, A real date is a full valid, unambiguous date (day-month-year) recognized by Excel, eg: 01-Jan-2009. If you always practice entering dates as full dates, you won't get caught out with ambiguities such as what happened as you described. If you don't enter the date with the year in it - that's what you did, Excel will then assume the year is the current year (from the PC's clock), hence you get: "3 Jan 2009". You got "3 Jan 2008" previously because you entered it sometime last year (in 2008). Take my suggestion, never skimp on the data entry step when it comes to dates. Always enter it unambiguously in full, inclusive of the year, and use "mmm" format to denote the month as well in the date entry. -- Max Singapore http://savefile.com/projects/236895 Downloads:23,000 Files:370 Subscribers:66 xdemechanik --- |
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Sorry, this one is correct
type 1/3 in A2. 39085 appeared in G2. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: Telling us a result without telling us your input is meaningless... exactly what did you type into A2 to get that 693231 value? -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... In G2 , =DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)), number appeared, 693231. any idea? -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: You'll need to tell us precisely what values you've got in which cells. If you use the formula =A2 and format as General, what number do you have? If you use the formula =G2 and format as General, what number do you have? -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... I place the formula in G2, format cell A2 as dd-mmm-yyyy. whatever date style I enter, the year is still "2009". It refuse to compute! Ai!!! -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Max" wrote: .. in A2, I enter "1/3" (ie 3th Jan) and I expect A2 to read "3 Jan 2008", but "3 Jan 2009" appeared. well, that was precisely my point/sugegstion to you in my earlier response, A real date is a full valid, unambiguous date (day-month-year) recognized by Excel, eg: 01-Jan-2009. If you always practice entering dates as full dates, you won't get caught out with ambiguities such as what happened as you described. If you don't enter the date with the year in it - that's what you did, Excel will then assume the year is the current year (from the PC's clock), hence you get: "3 Jan 2009". You got "3 Jan 2008" previously because you entered it sometime last year (in 2008). Take my suggestion, never skimp on the data entry step when it comes to dates. Always enter it unambiguously in full, inclusive of the year, and use "mmm" format to denote the month as well in the date entry. -- Max Singapore http://savefile.com/projects/236895 Downloads:23,000 Files:370 Subscribers:66 xdemechanik --- |
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FangYR wrote:
A2, 1/3. G2, 693231. Your entry of 1/3 in A2 is being evaluated as .3333333 (1 divided by 3). Either enter an apostrophe in front ('1/3) or pre-format the cell as date. |
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column A was format as "date"
-- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Glenn" wrote: FangYR wrote: A2, 1/3. G2, 693231. Your entry of 1/3 in A2 is being evaluated as .3333333 (1 divided by 3). Either enter an apostrophe in front ('1/3) or pre-format the cell as date. |
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That number makes more sense. 39085 is a "date" to Excel... it is the number
of days since January 1, 1900. Format that cell as Date and the 39045 will change to 1/3/2007. Now, the reason for the 2007 instead of 2008 is because you are subtracting 2 from the YEAR(A2) value (hence 2 years prior) instead of subtracting 1 (to get last year). By the way, if you only want last years date (the formula I'm about to give you will only work to give last year's date), then give this much simpler (and more efficient) formula a try... =A2-365-(DAY(A2)<DAY(A2-365)) It subtracts the 365 days in a normal year and if the day values between the date in A2 and the date 365 days earlier don't match, then a leap year was present, so it subtracts an additional day to skip over it. Note, you will probably still have to reformat the cell to Date after entering this formula as well. -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... Sorry, this one is correct type 1/3 in A2. 39085 appeared in G2. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: Telling us a result without telling us your input is meaningless... exactly what did you type into A2 to get that 693231 value? -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... In G2 , =DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)), number appeared, 693231. any idea? -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: You'll need to tell us precisely what values you've got in which cells. If you use the formula =A2 and format as General, what number do you have? If you use the formula =G2 and format as General, what number do you have? -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... I place the formula in G2, format cell A2 as dd-mmm-yyyy. whatever date style I enter, the year is still "2009". It refuse to compute! Ai!!! -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Max" wrote: .. in A2, I enter "1/3" (ie 3th Jan) and I expect A2 to read "3 Jan 2008", but "3 Jan 2009" appeared. well, that was precisely my point/sugegstion to you in my earlier response, A real date is a full valid, unambiguous date (day-month-year) recognized by Excel, eg: 01-Jan-2009. If you always practice entering dates as full dates, you won't get caught out with ambiguities such as what happened as you described. If you don't enter the date with the year in it - that's what you did, Excel will then assume the year is the current year (from the PC's clock), hence you get: "3 Jan 2009". You got "3 Jan 2008" previously because you entered it sometime last year (in 2008). Take my suggestion, never skimp on the data entry step when it comes to dates. Always enter it unambiguously in full, inclusive of the year, and use "mmm" format to denote the month as well in the date entry. -- Max Singapore http://savefile.com/projects/236895 Downloads:23,000 Files:370 Subscribers:66 xdemechanik --- |
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column A was format as "date"
Formatting only affects the display of the data that you enter, it doesn't change the underlying data that is entered. Like I said earlier / right at the onset in this thread: --------------------------------- If you meant to enter the date: 3 Jan 2008 into A2, Don't enter the date like this: 1/3 << no good, ambiguous Always enter dates in FULL like this: 3 Jan 2008 Hope the message above percolates through ... eventually -- Max Singapore http://savefile.com/projects/236895 Downloads:23,000 Files:370 Subscribers:66 xdemechanik --- |
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Thanks all of you for the effort.
As I have stated in the beginning, that formula works before. I am entering last year's bills as a record. So, I would like to type in A2 a date (ie 1/3) that will automatically appear as dd/mmm/2008 (in cell A2, B2, C2, etc.), instead of the current year. If I have to type the full date in column A (eg. 3/1/2008), then putting a formula in column G serves no purpose. Hope I am making it clearer this time. column A =date column G =formula Going to work now, see you all later. Cheers. - - Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: That number makes more sense. 39085 is a "date" to Excel... it is the number of days since January 1, 1900. Format that cell as Date and the 39045 will change to 1/3/2007. Now, the reason for the 2007 instead of 2008 is because you are subtracting 2 from the YEAR(A2) value (hence 2 years prior) instead of subtracting 1 (to get last year). By the way, if you only want last years date (the formula I'm about to give you will only work to give last year's date), then give this much simpler (and more efficient) formula a try... =A2-365-(DAY(A2)<DAY(A2-365)) It subtracts the 365 days in a normal year and if the day values between the date in A2 and the date 365 days earlier don't match, then a leap year was present, so it subtracts an additional day to skip over it. Note, you will probably still have to reformat the cell to Date after entering this formula as well. -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... Sorry, this one is correct type 1/3 in A2. 39085 appeared in G2. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: Telling us a result without telling us your input is meaningless... exactly what did you type into A2 to get that 693231 value? -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... In G2 , =DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)), number appeared, 693231. any idea? -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: You'll need to tell us precisely what values you've got in which cells. If you use the formula =A2 and format as General, what number do you have? If you use the formula =G2 and format as General, what number do you have? -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... I place the formula in G2, format cell A2 as dd-mmm-yyyy. whatever date style I enter, the year is still "2009". It refuse to compute! Ai!!! -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Max" wrote: .. in A2, I enter "1/3" (ie 3th Jan) and I expect A2 to read "3 Jan 2008", but "3 Jan 2009" appeared. well, that was precisely my point/sugegstion to you in my earlier response, A real date is a full valid, unambiguous date (day-month-year) recognized by Excel, eg: 01-Jan-2009. If you always practice entering dates as full dates, you won't get caught out with ambiguities such as what happened as you described. If you don't enter the date with the year in it - that's what you did, Excel will then assume the year is the current year (from the PC's clock), hence you get: "3 Jan 2009". You got "3 Jan 2008" previously because you entered it sometime last year (in 2008). Take my suggestion, never skimp on the data entry step when it comes to dates. Always enter it unambiguously in full, inclusive of the year, and use "mmm" format to denote the month as well in the date entry. -- Max Singapore http://savefile.com/projects/236895 Downloads:23,000 Files:370 Subscribers:66 xdemechanik --- |
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If all you're entering is 1/3, Excel assumes the current year. How would
Excel to know that you want last year, unless you told it? Defaulting to the current year is a very reasonable assumption on Excel's part, one that most people would want. If you want something different, your choices a 1. Change your computer clock to 2008. 2. Enter the extra digits for the year (ie 1/3/8) -- it's only two characters. 3. Enter all your dates in d/m format, to which Excel will add 2009. Add another column which subtracts one year. Use that column for your purposes. 4. Write a macro to capture your entered date (1/3), and change it to 2008. All in all, I think option 2 is the best, but it's up to you. Regards, Fred. "FangYR" wrote in message ... Thanks all of you for the effort. As I have stated in the beginning, that formula works before. I am entering last year's bills as a record. So, I would like to type in A2 a date (ie 1/3) that will automatically appear as dd/mmm/2008 (in cell A2, B2, C2, etc.), instead of the current year. If I have to type the full date in column A (eg. 3/1/2008), then putting a formula in column G serves no purpose. Hope I am making it clearer this time. column A =date column G =formula Going to work now, see you all later. Cheers. - - Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: That number makes more sense. 39085 is a "date" to Excel... it is the number of days since January 1, 1900. Format that cell as Date and the 39045 will change to 1/3/2007. Now, the reason for the 2007 instead of 2008 is because you are subtracting 2 from the YEAR(A2) value (hence 2 years prior) instead of subtracting 1 (to get last year). By the way, if you only want last years date (the formula I'm about to give you will only work to give last year's date), then give this much simpler (and more efficient) formula a try... =A2-365-(DAY(A2)<DAY(A2-365)) It subtracts the 365 days in a normal year and if the day values between the date in A2 and the date 365 days earlier don't match, then a leap year was present, so it subtracts an additional day to skip over it. Note, you will probably still have to reformat the cell to Date after entering this formula as well. -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... Sorry, this one is correct type 1/3 in A2. 39085 appeared in G2. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: Telling us a result without telling us your input is meaningless... exactly what did you type into A2 to get that 693231 value? -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... In G2 , =DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)), number appeared, 693231. any idea? -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: You'll need to tell us precisely what values you've got in which cells. If you use the formula =A2 and format as General, what number do you have? If you use the formula =G2 and format as General, what number do you have? -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... I place the formula in G2, format cell A2 as dd-mmm-yyyy. whatever date style I enter, the year is still "2009". It refuse to compute! Ai!!! -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Max" wrote: .. in A2, I enter "1/3" (ie 3th Jan) and I expect A2 to read "3 Jan 2008", but "3 Jan 2009" appeared. well, that was precisely my point/sugegstion to you in my earlier response, A real date is a full valid, unambiguous date (day-month-year) recognized by Excel, eg: 01-Jan-2009. If you always practice entering dates as full dates, you won't get caught out with ambiguities such as what happened as you described. If you don't enter the date with the year in it - that's what you did, Excel will then assume the year is the current year (from the PC's clock), hence you get: "3 Jan 2009". You got "3 Jan 2008" previously because you entered it sometime last year (in 2008). Take my suggestion, never skimp on the data entry step when it comes to dates. Always enter it unambiguously in full, inclusive of the year, and use "mmm" format to denote the month as well in the date entry. -- Max Singapore http://savefile.com/projects/236895 Downloads:23,000 Files:370 Subscribers:66 xdemechanik --- |
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If you want all your dates to be shifted to a specific year, put that year
in G1, for example, and make your G2 formula =DATE(YEAR(G$1),MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)) -- David Biddulph FangYR wrote: Thanks all of you for the effort. As I have stated in the beginning, that formula works before. I am entering last year's bills as a record. So, I would like to type in A2 a date (ie 1/3) that will automatically appear as dd/mmm/2008 (in cell A2, B2, C2, etc.), instead of the current year. If I have to type the full date in column A (eg. 3/1/2008), then putting a formula in column G serves no purpose. Hope I am making it clearer this time. column A =date column G =formula Going to work now, see you all later. Cheers. - - Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: That number makes more sense. 39085 is a "date" to Excel... it is the number of days since January 1, 1900. Format that cell as Date and the 39045 will change to 1/3/2007. Now, the reason for the 2007 instead of 2008 is because you are subtracting 2 from the YEAR(A2) value (hence 2 years prior) instead of subtracting 1 (to get last year). By the way, if you only want last years date (the formula I'm about to give you will only work to give last year's date), then give this much simpler (and more efficient) formula a try... =A2-365-(DAY(A2)<DAY(A2-365)) It subtracts the 365 days in a normal year and if the day values between the date in A2 and the date 365 days earlier don't match, then a leap year was present, so it subtracts an additional day to skip over it. Note, you will probably still have to reformat the cell to Date after entering this formula as well. -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... Sorry, this one is correct type 1/3 in A2. 39085 appeared in G2. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: Telling us a result without telling us your input is meaningless... exactly what did you type into A2 to get that 693231 value? -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... In G2 , =DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)), number appeared, 693231. any idea? -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: You'll need to tell us precisely what values you've got in which cells. If you use the formula =A2 and format as General, what number do you have? If you use the formula =G2 and format as General, what number do you have? -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... I place the formula in G2, format cell A2 as dd-mmm-yyyy. whatever date style I enter, the year is still "2009". It refuse to compute! Ai!!! -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Max" wrote: .. in A2, I enter "1/3" (ie 3th Jan) and I expect A2 to read "3 Jan 2008", but "3 Jan 2009" appeared. well, that was precisely my point/sugegstion to you in my earlier response, A real date is a full valid, unambiguous date (day-month-year) recognized by Excel, eg: 01-Jan-2009. If you always practice entering dates as full dates, you won't get caught out with ambiguities such as what happened as you described. If you don't enter the date with the year in it - that's what you did, Excel will then assume the year is the current year (from the PC's clock), hence you get: "3 Jan 2009". You got "3 Jan 2008" previously because you entered it sometime last year (in 2008). Take my suggestion, never skimp on the data entry step when it comes to dates. Always enter it unambiguously in full, inclusive of the year, and use "mmm" format to denote the month as well in the date entry. -- Max Singapore http://savefile.com/projects/236895 Downloads:23,000 Files:370 Subscribers:66 xdemechanik --- |
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Correction:
=DATE(G$1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)) -- David Biddulph David Biddulph wrote: If you want all your dates to be shifted to a specific year, put that year in G1, for example, and make your G2 formula =DATE(YEAR(G$1),MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)) FangYR wrote: Thanks all of you for the effort. As I have stated in the beginning, that formula works before. I am entering last year's bills as a record. So, I would like to type in A2 a date (ie 1/3) that will automatically appear as dd/mmm/2008 (in cell A2, B2, C2, etc.), instead of the current year. If I have to type the full date in column A (eg. 3/1/2008), then putting a formula in column G serves no purpose. Hope I am making it clearer this time. column A =date column G =formula Going to work now, see you all later. Cheers. - - Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: That number makes more sense. 39085 is a "date" to Excel... it is the number of days since January 1, 1900. Format that cell as Date and the 39045 will change to 1/3/2007. Now, the reason for the 2007 instead of 2008 is because you are subtracting 2 from the YEAR(A2) value (hence 2 years prior) instead of subtracting 1 (to get last year). By the way, if you only want last years date (the formula I'm about to give you will only work to give last year's date), then give this much simpler (and more efficient) formula a try... =A2-365-(DAY(A2)<DAY(A2-365)) It subtracts the 365 days in a normal year and if the day values between the date in A2 and the date 365 days earlier don't match, then a leap year was present, so it subtracts an additional day to skip over it. Note, you will probably still have to reformat the cell to Date after entering this formula as well. -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... Sorry, this one is correct type 1/3 in A2. 39085 appeared in G2. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: Telling us a result without telling us your input is meaningless... exactly what did you type into A2 to get that 693231 value? -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... In G2 , =DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)), number appeared, 693231. any idea? -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: You'll need to tell us precisely what values you've got in which cells. If you use the formula =A2 and format as General, what number do you have? If you use the formula =G2 and format as General, what number do you have? -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... I place the formula in G2, format cell A2 as dd-mmm-yyyy. whatever date style I enter, the year is still "2009". It refuse to compute! Ai!!! -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Max" wrote: .. in A2, I enter "1/3" (ie 3th Jan) and I expect A2 to read "3 Jan 2008", but "3 Jan 2009" appeared. well, that was precisely my point/sugegstion to you in my earlier response, A real date is a full valid, unambiguous date (day-month-year) recognized by Excel, eg: 01-Jan-2009. If you always practice entering dates as full dates, you won't get caught out with ambiguities such as what happened as you described. If you don't enter the date with the year in it - that's what you did, Excel will then assume the year is the current year (from the PC's clock), hence you get: "3 Jan 2009". You got "3 Jan 2008" previously because you entered it sometime last year (in 2008). Take my suggestion, never skimp on the data entry step when it comes to dates. Always enter it unambiguously in full, inclusive of the year, and use "mmm" format to denote the month as well in the date entry. -- Max Singapore http://savefile.com/projects/236895 Downloads:23,000 Files:370 Subscribers:66 xdemechanik --- |
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Fred wrote:
" Enter all your dates in d/m format, to which Excel will add 2009. Add another column which subtracts one year. Use that column for your purposes." This is what I have been stressing all the while. In G2 this formula was inserted:=DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)), and i expext Excel to make changes in A2 to give this "3-Jan-2008" reading. This worked last year, but not any more. Need a solution, that's all. If this formula works with your computer and not mine, I like to know where went wrong. Thanks for all your patience. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Fred Smith" wrote: If all you're entering is 1/3, Excel assumes the current year. How would Excel to know that you want last year, unless you told it? Defaulting to the current year is a very reasonable assumption on Excel's part, one that most people would want. If you want something different, your choices a 1. Change your computer clock to 2008. 2. Enter the extra digits for the year (ie 1/3/8) -- it's only two characters. 3. Enter all your dates in d/m format, to which Excel will add 2009. Add another column which subtracts one year. Use that column for your purposes. 4. Write a macro to capture your entered date (1/3), and change it to 2008. All in all, I think option 2 is the best, but it's up to you. Regards, Fred. "FangYR" wrote in message ... Thanks all of you for the effort. As I have stated in the beginning, that formula works before. I am entering last year's bills as a record. So, I would like to type in A2 a date (ie 1/3) that will automatically appear as dd/mmm/2008 (in cell A2, B2, C2, etc.), instead of the current year. If I have to type the full date in column A (eg. 3/1/2008), then putting a formula in column G serves no purpose. Hope I am making it clearer this time. column A =date column G =formula Going to work now, see you all later. Cheers. - - Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: That number makes more sense. 39085 is a "date" to Excel... it is the number of days since January 1, 1900. Format that cell as Date and the 39045 will change to 1/3/2007. Now, the reason for the 2007 instead of 2008 is because you are subtracting 2 from the YEAR(A2) value (hence 2 years prior) instead of subtracting 1 (to get last year). By the way, if you only want last years date (the formula I'm about to give you will only work to give last year's date), then give this much simpler (and more efficient) formula a try... =A2-365-(DAY(A2)<DAY(A2-365)) It subtracts the 365 days in a normal year and if the day values between the date in A2 and the date 365 days earlier don't match, then a leap year was present, so it subtracts an additional day to skip over it. Note, you will probably still have to reformat the cell to Date after entering this formula as well. -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... Sorry, this one is correct type 1/3 in A2. 39085 appeared in G2. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: Telling us a result without telling us your input is meaningless... exactly what did you type into A2 to get that 693231 value? -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... In G2 , =DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)), number appeared, 693231. any idea? -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: You'll need to tell us precisely what values you've got in which cells. If you use the formula =A2 and format as General, what number do you have? If you use the formula =G2 and format as General, what number do you have? -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... I place the formula in G2, format cell A2 as dd-mmm-yyyy. whatever date style I enter, the year is still "2009". It refuse to compute! Ai!!! -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Max" wrote: .. in A2, I enter "1/3" (ie 3th Jan) and I expect A2 to read "3 Jan 2008", but "3 Jan 2009" appeared. well, that was precisely my point/sugegstion to you in my earlier response, A real date is a full valid, unambiguous date (day-month-year) recognized by Excel, eg: 01-Jan-2009. If you always practice entering dates as full dates, you won't get caught out with ambiguities such as what happened as you described. If you don't enter the date with the year in it - that's what you did, Excel will then assume the year is the current year (from the PC's clock), hence you get: "3 Jan 2009". You got "3 Jan 2008" previously because you entered it sometime last year (in 2008). Take my suggestion, never skimp on the data entry step when it comes to dates. Always enter it unambiguously in full, inclusive of the year, and use "mmm" format to denote the month as well in the date entry. -- Max Singapore http://savefile.com/projects/236895 Downloads:23,000 Files:370 Subscribers:66 xdemechanik --- |
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Hi David,
Sorry to say, your last formula didnt work either. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: Correction: =DATE(G$1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)) -- David Biddulph David Biddulph wrote: If you want all your dates to be shifted to a specific year, put that year in G1, for example, and make your G2 formula =DATE(YEAR(G$1),MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)) FangYR wrote: Thanks all of you for the effort. As I have stated in the beginning, that formula works before. I am entering last year's bills as a record. So, I would like to type in A2 a date (ie 1/3) that will automatically appear as dd/mmm/2008 (in cell A2, B2, C2, etc.), instead of the current year. If I have to type the full date in column A (eg. 3/1/2008), then putting a formula in column G serves no purpose. Hope I am making it clearer this time. column A =date column G =formula Going to work now, see you all later. Cheers. - - Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: That number makes more sense. 39085 is a "date" to Excel... it is the number of days since January 1, 1900. Format that cell as Date and the 39045 will change to 1/3/2007. Now, the reason for the 2007 instead of 2008 is because you are subtracting 2 from the YEAR(A2) value (hence 2 years prior) instead of subtracting 1 (to get last year). By the way, if you only want last years date (the formula I'm about to give you will only work to give last year's date), then give this much simpler (and more efficient) formula a try... =A2-365-(DAY(A2)<DAY(A2-365)) It subtracts the 365 days in a normal year and if the day values between the date in A2 and the date 365 days earlier don't match, then a leap year was present, so it subtracts an additional day to skip over it. Note, you will probably still have to reformat the cell to Date after entering this formula as well. -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... Sorry, this one is correct type 1/3 in A2. 39085 appeared in G2. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: Telling us a result without telling us your input is meaningless... exactly what did you type into A2 to get that 693231 value? -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... In G2 , =DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)), number appeared, 693231. any idea? -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: You'll need to tell us precisely what values you've got in which cells. If you use the formula =A2 and format as General, what number do you have? If you use the formula =G2 and format as General, what number do you have? -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... I place the formula in G2, format cell A2 as dd-mmm-yyyy. whatever date style I enter, the year is still "2009". It refuse to compute! Ai!!! -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Max" wrote: .. in A2, I enter "1/3" (ie 3th Jan) and I expect A2 to read "3 Jan 2008", but "3 Jan 2009" appeared. well, that was precisely my point/sugegstion to you in my earlier response, A real date is a full valid, unambiguous date (day-month-year) recognized by Excel, eg: 01-Jan-2009. If you always practice entering dates as full dates, you won't get caught out with ambiguities such as what happened as you described. If you don't enter the date with the year in it - that's what you did, Excel will then assume the year is the current year (from the PC's clock), hence you get: "3 Jan 2009". You got "3 Jan 2008" previously because you entered it sometime last year (in 2008). Take my suggestion, never skimp on the data entry step when it comes to dates. Always enter it unambiguously in full, inclusive of the year, and use "mmm" format to denote the month as well in the date entry. -- Max Singapore http://savefile.com/projects/236895 Downloads:23,000 Files:370 Subscribers:66 xdemechanik --- |
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At one stage you told us that G2 contained 39508.
If you format that cell as date you will get 3-Jan-2008, as required. Also, Rick Rothstein suggested a much simpler formula giving the same result: =A2-365-(DAY(A2)<DAY(A2-365)) -- Kind regards, Niek Otten Microsoft MVP - Excel "FangYR" wrote in message ... Fred wrote: " Enter all your dates in d/m format, to which Excel will add 2009. Add another column which subtracts one year. Use that column for your purposes." This is what I have been stressing all the while. In G2 this formula was inserted:=DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)), and i expext Excel to make changes in A2 to give this "3-Jan-2008" reading. This worked last year, but not any more. Need a solution, that's all. If this formula works with your computer and not mine, I like to know where went wrong. Thanks for all your patience. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Fred Smith" wrote: If all you're entering is 1/3, Excel assumes the current year. How would Excel to know that you want last year, unless you told it? Defaulting to the current year is a very reasonable assumption on Excel's part, one that most people would want. If you want something different, your choices a 1. Change your computer clock to 2008. 2. Enter the extra digits for the year (ie 1/3/8) -- it's only two characters. 3. Enter all your dates in d/m format, to which Excel will add 2009. Add another column which subtracts one year. Use that column for your purposes. 4. Write a macro to capture your entered date (1/3), and change it to 2008. All in all, I think option 2 is the best, but it's up to you. Regards, Fred. "FangYR" wrote in message ... Thanks all of you for the effort. As I have stated in the beginning, that formula works before. I am entering last year's bills as a record. So, I would like to type in A2 a date (ie 1/3) that will automatically appear as dd/mmm/2008 (in cell A2, B2, C2, etc.), instead of the current year. If I have to type the full date in column A (eg. 3/1/2008), then putting a formula in column G serves no purpose. Hope I am making it clearer this time. column A =date column G =formula Going to work now, see you all later. Cheers. - - Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: That number makes more sense. 39085 is a "date" to Excel... it is the number of days since January 1, 1900. Format that cell as Date and the 39045 will change to 1/3/2007. Now, the reason for the 2007 instead of 2008 is because you are subtracting 2 from the YEAR(A2) value (hence 2 years prior) instead of subtracting 1 (to get last year). By the way, if you only want last years date (the formula I'm about to give you will only work to give last year's date), then give this much simpler (and more efficient) formula a try... =A2-365-(DAY(A2)<DAY(A2-365)) It subtracts the 365 days in a normal year and if the day values between the date in A2 and the date 365 days earlier don't match, then a leap year was present, so it subtracts an additional day to skip over it. Note, you will probably still have to reformat the cell to Date after entering this formula as well. -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... Sorry, this one is correct type 1/3 in A2. 39085 appeared in G2. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: Telling us a result without telling us your input is meaningless... exactly what did you type into A2 to get that 693231 value? -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... In G2 , =DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)), number appeared, 693231. any idea? -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: You'll need to tell us precisely what values you've got in which cells. If you use the formula =A2 and format as General, what number do you have? If you use the formula =G2 and format as General, what number do you have? -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... I place the formula in G2, format cell A2 as dd-mmm-yyyy. whatever date style I enter, the year is still "2009". It refuse to compute! Ai!!! -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Max" wrote: .. in A2, I enter "1/3" (ie 3th Jan) and I expect A2 to read "3 Jan 2008", but "3 Jan 2009" appeared. well, that was precisely my point/sugegstion to you in my earlier response, A real date is a full valid, unambiguous date (day-month-year) recognized by Excel, eg: 01-Jan-2009. If you always practice entering dates as full dates, you won't get caught out with ambiguities such as what happened as you described. If you don't enter the date with the year in it - that's what you did, Excel will then assume the year is the current year (from the PC's clock), hence you get: "3 Jan 2009". You got "3 Jan 2008" previously because you entered it sometime last year (in 2008). Take my suggestion, never skimp on the data entry step when it comes to dates. Always enter it unambiguously in full, inclusive of the year, and use "mmm" format to denote the month as well in the date entry. -- Max Singapore http://savefile.com/projects/236895 Downloads:23,000 Files:370 Subscribers:66 xdemechanik --- |
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A formula in G2 will not change the value in A2.
-- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... Fred wrote: " Enter all your dates in d/m format, to which Excel will add 2009. Add another column which subtracts one year. Use that column for your purposes." This is what I have been stressing all the while. In G2 this formula was inserted:=DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)), and i expext Excel to make changes in A2 to give this "3-Jan-2008" reading. This worked last year, but not any more. Need a solution, that's all. If this formula works with your computer and not mine, I like to know where went wrong. Thanks for all your patience. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Fred Smith" wrote: If all you're entering is 1/3, Excel assumes the current year. How would Excel to know that you want last year, unless you told it? Defaulting to the current year is a very reasonable assumption on Excel's part, one that most people would want. If you want something different, your choices a 1. Change your computer clock to 2008. 2. Enter the extra digits for the year (ie 1/3/8) -- it's only two characters. 3. Enter all your dates in d/m format, to which Excel will add 2009. Add another column which subtracts one year. Use that column for your purposes. 4. Write a macro to capture your entered date (1/3), and change it to 2008. All in all, I think option 2 is the best, but it's up to you. Regards, Fred. "FangYR" wrote in message ... Thanks all of you for the effort. As I have stated in the beginning, that formula works before. I am entering last year's bills as a record. So, I would like to type in A2 a date (ie 1/3) that will automatically appear as dd/mmm/2008 (in cell A2, B2, C2, etc.), instead of the current year. If I have to type the full date in column A (eg. 3/1/2008), then putting a formula in column G serves no purpose. Hope I am making it clearer this time. column A =date column G =formula Going to work now, see you all later. Cheers. - - Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: That number makes more sense. 39085 is a "date" to Excel... it is the number of days since January 1, 1900. Format that cell as Date and the 39045 will change to 1/3/2007. Now, the reason for the 2007 instead of 2008 is because you are subtracting 2 from the YEAR(A2) value (hence 2 years prior) instead of subtracting 1 (to get last year). By the way, if you only want last years date (the formula I'm about to give you will only work to give last year's date), then give this much simpler (and more efficient) formula a try... =A2-365-(DAY(A2)<DAY(A2-365)) It subtracts the 365 days in a normal year and if the day values between the date in A2 and the date 365 days earlier don't match, then a leap year was present, so it subtracts an additional day to skip over it. Note, you will probably still have to reformat the cell to Date after entering this formula as well. -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... Sorry, this one is correct type 1/3 in A2. 39085 appeared in G2. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: Telling us a result without telling us your input is meaningless... exactly what did you type into A2 to get that 693231 value? -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... In G2 , =DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)), number appeared, 693231. any idea? -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: You'll need to tell us precisely what values you've got in which cells. If you use the formula =A2 and format as General, what number do you have? If you use the formula =G2 and format as General, what number do you have? -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... I place the formula in G2, format cell A2 as dd-mmm-yyyy. whatever date style I enter, the year is still "2009". It refuse to compute! Ai!!! -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Max" wrote: .. in A2, I enter "1/3" (ie 3th Jan) and I expect A2 to read "3 Jan 2008", but "3 Jan 2009" appeared. well, that was precisely my point/sugegstion to you in my earlier response, A real date is a full valid, unambiguous date (day-month-year) recognized by Excel, eg: 01-Jan-2009. If you always practice entering dates as full dates, you won't get caught out with ambiguities such as what happened as you described. If you don't enter the date with the year in it - that's what you did, Excel will then assume the year is the current year (from the PC's clock), hence you get: "3 Jan 2009". You got "3 Jan 2008" previously because you entered it sometime last year (in 2008). Take my suggestion, never skimp on the data entry step when it comes to dates. Always enter it unambiguously in full, inclusive of the year, and use "mmm" format to denote the month as well in the date entry. -- Max Singapore http://savefile.com/projects/236895 Downloads:23,000 Files:370 Subscribers:66 xdemechanik --- |
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You have been told more than once that if you want our help you need to tell
us specific values. "didnt work" is not a sufficiently specific problem description to enable anyone other than a clairvoyant to tell you what you did wrong. You steadfastly refuse to provide the information which has been requested, so none of us can help you. We know that the formulae which we provide will work (and we have tested them), but you won't tell us what you have done, so we can't help you to sort out what mistake you have made. I'm sorry if I sound short-tempered, but this thread has been going on for a number of days with many people trying to help you, but getting nowhere because you will not provide the detailed diagnostic information which they would need if they were to help you. -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... Hi David, Sorry to say, your last formula didnt work either. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: Correction: =DATE(G$1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)) -- David Biddulph David Biddulph wrote: If you want all your dates to be shifted to a specific year, put that year in G1, for example, and make your G2 formula =DATE(YEAR(G$1),MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)) FangYR wrote: Thanks all of you for the effort. As I have stated in the beginning, that formula works before. I am entering last year's bills as a record. So, I would like to type in A2 a date (ie 1/3) that will automatically appear as dd/mmm/2008 (in cell A2, B2, C2, etc.), instead of the current year. If I have to type the full date in column A (eg. 3/1/2008), then putting a formula in column G serves no purpose. Hope I am making it clearer this time. column A =date column G =formula Going to work now, see you all later. Cheers. - - Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: That number makes more sense. 39085 is a "date" to Excel... it is the number of days since January 1, 1900. Format that cell as Date and the 39045 will change to 1/3/2007. Now, the reason for the 2007 instead of 2008 is because you are subtracting 2 from the YEAR(A2) value (hence 2 years prior) instead of subtracting 1 (to get last year). By the way, if you only want last years date (the formula I'm about to give you will only work to give last year's date), then give this much simpler (and more efficient) formula a try... =A2-365-(DAY(A2)<DAY(A2-365)) It subtracts the 365 days in a normal year and if the day values between the date in A2 and the date 365 days earlier don't match, then a leap year was present, so it subtracts an additional day to skip over it. Note, you will probably still have to reformat the cell to Date after entering this formula as well. -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... Sorry, this one is correct type 1/3 in A2. 39085 appeared in G2. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: Telling us a result without telling us your input is meaningless... exactly what did you type into A2 to get that 693231 value? -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... In G2 , =DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)), number appeared, 693231. any idea? -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: You'll need to tell us precisely what values you've got in which cells. If you use the formula =A2 and format as General, what number do you have? If you use the formula =G2 and format as General, what number do you have? -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... I place the formula in G2, format cell A2 as dd-mmm-yyyy. whatever date style I enter, the year is still "2009". It refuse to compute! Ai!!! -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Max" wrote: .. in A2, I enter "1/3" (ie 3th Jan) and I expect A2 to read "3 Jan 2008", but "3 Jan 2009" appeared. well, that was precisely my point/sugegstion to you in my earlier response, A real date is a full valid, unambiguous date (day-month-year) recognized by Excel, eg: 01-Jan-2009. If you always practice entering dates as full dates, you won't get caught out with ambiguities such as what happened as you described. If you don't enter the date with the year in it - that's what you did, Excel will then assume the year is the current year (from the PC's clock), hence you get: "3 Jan 2009". You got "3 Jan 2008" previously because you entered it sometime last year (in 2008). Take my suggestion, never skimp on the data entry step when it comes to dates. Always enter it unambiguously in full, inclusive of the year, and use "mmm" format to denote the month as well in the date entry. -- Max Singapore http://savefile.com/projects/236895 Downloads:23,000 Files:370 Subscribers:66 xdemechanik --- |
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On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 02:15:01 -0800, FangYR
wrote: In G2 this formula was inserted:=DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)), and i expext Excel to make changes in A2 to give this "3-Jan-2008" reading. A formula in G2 cannot change the value in A2. --ron |
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Ok David,
I open a new workbook. 1) Format A2 as Date (14-Mar-01, as in dialogue box). 2) Insert formula in G2 which gives a number 693596 (A2 no data yet). 3) Type 1/3 in A2 and it reads 3-Jan-09. The above is the simpliest way to state my case. As I said earlier, it worked last year when I got this formula from Ron. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: You have been told more than once that if you want our help you need to tell us specific values. "didnt work" is not a sufficiently specific problem description to enable anyone other than a clairvoyant to tell you what you did wrong. You steadfastly refuse to provide the information which has been requested, so none of us can help you. We know that the formulae which we provide will work (and we have tested them), but you won't tell us what you have done, so we can't help you to sort out what mistake you have made. I'm sorry if I sound short-tempered, but this thread has been going on for a number of days with many people trying to help you, but getting nowhere because you will not provide the detailed diagnostic information which they would need if they were to help you. -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... Hi David, Sorry to say, your last formula didnt work either. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: Correction: =DATE(G$1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)) -- David Biddulph David Biddulph wrote: If you want all your dates to be shifted to a specific year, put that year in G1, for example, and make your G2 formula =DATE(YEAR(G$1),MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)) FangYR wrote: Thanks all of you for the effort. As I have stated in the beginning, that formula works before. I am entering last year's bills as a record. So, I would like to type in A2 a date (ie 1/3) that will automatically appear as dd/mmm/2008 (in cell A2, B2, C2, etc.), instead of the current year. If I have to type the full date in column A (eg. 3/1/2008), then putting a formula in column G serves no purpose. Hope I am making it clearer this time. column A =date column G =formula Going to work now, see you all later. Cheers. - - Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: That number makes more sense. 39085 is a "date" to Excel... it is the number of days since January 1, 1900. Format that cell as Date and the 39045 will change to 1/3/2007. Now, the reason for the 2007 instead of 2008 is because you are subtracting 2 from the YEAR(A2) value (hence 2 years prior) instead of subtracting 1 (to get last year). By the way, if you only want last years date (the formula I'm about to give you will only work to give last year's date), then give this much simpler (and more efficient) formula a try... =A2-365-(DAY(A2)<DAY(A2-365)) It subtracts the 365 days in a normal year and if the day values between the date in A2 and the date 365 days earlier don't match, then a leap year was present, so it subtracts an additional day to skip over it. Note, you will probably still have to reformat the cell to Date after entering this formula as well. -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... Sorry, this one is correct type 1/3 in A2. 39085 appeared in G2. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: Telling us a result without telling us your input is meaningless... exactly what did you type into A2 to get that 693231 value? -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... In G2 , =DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)), number appeared, 693231. any idea? -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: You'll need to tell us precisely what values you've got in which cells. If you use the formula =A2 and format as General, what number do you have? If you use the formula =G2 and format as General, what number do you have? -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... I place the formula in G2, format cell A2 as dd-mmm-yyyy. whatever date style I enter, the year is still "2009". It refuse to compute! Ai!!! -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Max" wrote: .. in A2, I enter "1/3" (ie 3th Jan) and I expect A2 to read "3 Jan 2008", but "3 Jan 2009" appeared. well, that was precisely my point/sugegstion to you in my earlier response, A real date is a full valid, unambiguous date (day-month-year) recognized by Excel, eg: 01-Jan-2009. If you always practice entering dates as full dates, you won't get caught out with ambiguities such as what happened as you described. If you don't enter the date with the year in it - that's what you did, Excel will then assume the year is the current year (from the PC's clock), hence you get: "3 Jan 2009". You got "3 Jan 2008" previously because you entered it sometime last year (in 2008). Take my suggestion, never skimp on the data entry step when it comes to dates. Always enter it unambiguously in full, inclusive of the year, and use "mmm" format to denote the month as well in the date entry. -- Max Singapore http://savefile.com/projects/236895 Downloads:23,000 Files:370 Subscribers:66 xdemechanik --- |
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one more thing.
4) G2 reads 39450 -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: You have been told more than once that if you want our help you need to tell us specific values. "didnt work" is not a sufficiently specific problem description to enable anyone other than a clairvoyant to tell you what you did wrong. You steadfastly refuse to provide the information which has been requested, so none of us can help you. We know that the formulae which we provide will work (and we have tested them), but you won't tell us what you have done, so we can't help you to sort out what mistake you have made. I'm sorry if I sound short-tempered, but this thread has been going on for a number of days with many people trying to help you, but getting nowhere because you will not provide the detailed diagnostic information which they would need if they were to help you. -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... Hi David, Sorry to say, your last formula didnt work either. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: Correction: =DATE(G$1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)) -- David Biddulph David Biddulph wrote: If you want all your dates to be shifted to a specific year, put that year in G1, for example, and make your G2 formula =DATE(YEAR(G$1),MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)) FangYR wrote: Thanks all of you for the effort. As I have stated in the beginning, that formula works before. I am entering last year's bills as a record. So, I would like to type in A2 a date (ie 1/3) that will automatically appear as dd/mmm/2008 (in cell A2, B2, C2, etc.), instead of the current year. If I have to type the full date in column A (eg. 3/1/2008), then putting a formula in column G serves no purpose. Hope I am making it clearer this time. column A =date column G =formula Going to work now, see you all later. Cheers. - - Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: That number makes more sense. 39085 is a "date" to Excel... it is the number of days since January 1, 1900. Format that cell as Date and the 39045 will change to 1/3/2007. Now, the reason for the 2007 instead of 2008 is because you are subtracting 2 from the YEAR(A2) value (hence 2 years prior) instead of subtracting 1 (to get last year). By the way, if you only want last years date (the formula I'm about to give you will only work to give last year's date), then give this much simpler (and more efficient) formula a try... =A2-365-(DAY(A2)<DAY(A2-365)) It subtracts the 365 days in a normal year and if the day values between the date in A2 and the date 365 days earlier don't match, then a leap year was present, so it subtracts an additional day to skip over it. Note, you will probably still have to reformat the cell to Date after entering this formula as well. -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... Sorry, this one is correct type 1/3 in A2. 39085 appeared in G2. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: Telling us a result without telling us your input is meaningless... exactly what did you type into A2 to get that 693231 value? -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... In G2 , =DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)), number appeared, 693231. any idea? -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: You'll need to tell us precisely what values you've got in which cells. If you use the formula =A2 and format as General, what number do you have? If you use the formula =G2 and format as General, what number do you have? -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... I place the formula in G2, format cell A2 as dd-mmm-yyyy. whatever date style I enter, the year is still "2009". It refuse to compute! Ai!!! -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Max" wrote: .. in A2, I enter "1/3" (ie 3th Jan) and I expect A2 to read "3 Jan 2008", but "3 Jan 2009" appeared. well, that was precisely my point/sugegstion to you in my earlier response, A real date is a full valid, unambiguous date (day-month-year) recognized by Excel, eg: 01-Jan-2009. If you always practice entering dates as full dates, you won't get caught out with ambiguities such as what happened as you described. If you don't enter the date with the year in it - that's what you did, Excel will then assume the year is the current year (from the PC's clock), hence you get: "3 Jan 2009". You got "3 Jan 2008" previously because you entered it sometime last year (in 2008). Take my suggestion, never skimp on the data entry step when it comes to dates. Always enter it unambiguously in full, inclusive of the year, and use "mmm" format to denote the month as well in the date entry. -- Max Singapore http://savefile.com/projects/236895 Downloads:23,000 Files:370 Subscribers:66 xdemechanik --- |
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Date fomula not working
Thta is March 1 2008, so you probably typed 3/1 in A2 instead of 1/3.
Anyway, both result in a date in 2008, not 2009 -- Kind regards, Niek Otten Microsoft MVP - Excel "FangYR" wrote in message ... one more thing. 4) G2 reads 39450 -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: You have been told more than once that if you want our help you need to tell us specific values. "didnt work" is not a sufficiently specific problem description to enable anyone other than a clairvoyant to tell you what you did wrong. You steadfastly refuse to provide the information which has been requested, so none of us can help you. We know that the formulae which we provide will work (and we have tested them), but you won't tell us what you have done, so we can't help you to sort out what mistake you have made. I'm sorry if I sound short-tempered, but this thread has been going on for a number of days with many people trying to help you, but getting nowhere because you will not provide the detailed diagnostic information which they would need if they were to help you. -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... Hi David, Sorry to say, your last formula didnt work either. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: Correction: =DATE(G$1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)) -- David Biddulph David Biddulph wrote: If you want all your dates to be shifted to a specific year, put that year in G1, for example, and make your G2 formula =DATE(YEAR(G$1),MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)) FangYR wrote: Thanks all of you for the effort. As I have stated in the beginning, that formula works before. I am entering last year's bills as a record. So, I would like to type in A2 a date (ie 1/3) that will automatically appear as dd/mmm/2008 (in cell A2, B2, C2, etc.), instead of the current year. If I have to type the full date in column A (eg. 3/1/2008), then putting a formula in column G serves no purpose. Hope I am making it clearer this time. column A =date column G =formula Going to work now, see you all later. Cheers. - - Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: That number makes more sense. 39085 is a "date" to Excel... it is the number of days since January 1, 1900. Format that cell as Date and the 39045 will change to 1/3/2007. Now, the reason for the 2007 instead of 2008 is because you are subtracting 2 from the YEAR(A2) value (hence 2 years prior) instead of subtracting 1 (to get last year). By the way, if you only want last years date (the formula I'm about to give you will only work to give last year's date), then give this much simpler (and more efficient) formula a try... =A2-365-(DAY(A2)<DAY(A2-365)) It subtracts the 365 days in a normal year and if the day values between the date in A2 and the date 365 days earlier don't match, then a leap year was present, so it subtracts an additional day to skip over it. Note, you will probably still have to reformat the cell to Date after entering this formula as well. -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... Sorry, this one is correct type 1/3 in A2. 39085 appeared in G2. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: Telling us a result without telling us your input is meaningless... exactly what did you type into A2 to get that 693231 value? -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... In G2 , =DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)), number appeared, 693231. any idea? -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: You'll need to tell us precisely what values you've got in which cells. If you use the formula =A2 and format as General, what number do you have? If you use the formula =G2 and format as General, what number do you have? -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... I place the formula in G2, format cell A2 as dd-mmm-yyyy. whatever date style I enter, the year is still "2009". It refuse to compute! Ai!!! -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Max" wrote: .. in A2, I enter "1/3" (ie 3th Jan) and I expect A2 to read "3 Jan 2008", but "3 Jan 2009" appeared. well, that was precisely my point/sugegstion to you in my earlier response, A real date is a full valid, unambiguous date (day-month-year) recognized by Excel, eg: 01-Jan-2009. If you always practice entering dates as full dates, you won't get caught out with ambiguities such as what happened as you described. If you don't enter the date with the year in it - that's what you did, Excel will then assume the year is the current year (from the PC's clock), hence you get: "3 Jan 2009". You got "3 Jan 2008" previously because you entered it sometime last year (in 2008). Take my suggestion, never skimp on the data entry step when it comes to dates. Always enter it unambiguously in full, inclusive of the year, and use "mmm" format to denote the month as well in the date entry. -- Max Singapore http://savefile.com/projects/236895 Downloads:23,000 Files:370 Subscribers:66 xdemechanik --- |
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I think you'll find that 39450 is 3 Jan 2008, not 1 Mar 2008, Niek, but yes,
you are right, the formula in G2 is returning the value that the OP wanted, in 2008, so hopefully this saga is over. -- David Biddulph "Niek Otten" wrote in message ... Thta is March 1 2008, so you probably typed 3/1 in A2 instead of 1/3. Anyway, both result in a date in 2008, not 2009 -- Kind regards, Niek Otten Microsoft MVP - Excel "FangYR" wrote in message ... one more thing. 4) G2 reads 39450 -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: You have been told more than once that if you want our help you need to tell us specific values. "didnt work" is not a sufficiently specific problem description to enable anyone other than a clairvoyant to tell you what you did wrong. You steadfastly refuse to provide the information which has been requested, so none of us can help you. We know that the formulae which we provide will work (and we have tested them), but you won't tell us what you have done, so we can't help you to sort out what mistake you have made. I'm sorry if I sound short-tempered, but this thread has been going on for a number of days with many people trying to help you, but getting nowhere because you will not provide the detailed diagnostic information which they would need if they were to help you. -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... Hi David, Sorry to say, your last formula didnt work either. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: Correction: =DATE(G$1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)) -- David Biddulph David Biddulph wrote: If you want all your dates to be shifted to a specific year, put that year in G1, for example, and make your G2 formula =DATE(YEAR(G$1),MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)) FangYR wrote: Thanks all of you for the effort. As I have stated in the beginning, that formula works before. I am entering last year's bills as a record. So, I would like to type in A2 a date (ie 1/3) that will automatically appear as dd/mmm/2008 (in cell A2, B2, C2, etc.), instead of the current year. If I have to type the full date in column A (eg. 3/1/2008), then putting a formula in column G serves no purpose. Hope I am making it clearer this time. column A =date column G =formula Going to work now, see you all later. Cheers. - - Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: That number makes more sense. 39085 is a "date" to Excel... it is the number of days since January 1, 1900. Format that cell as Date and the 39045 will change to 1/3/2007. Now, the reason for the 2007 instead of 2008 is because you are subtracting 2 from the YEAR(A2) value (hence 2 years prior) instead of subtracting 1 (to get last year). By the way, if you only want last years date (the formula I'm about to give you will only work to give last year's date), then give this much simpler (and more efficient) formula a try... =A2-365-(DAY(A2)<DAY(A2-365)) It subtracts the 365 days in a normal year and if the day values between the date in A2 and the date 365 days earlier don't match, then a leap year was present, so it subtracts an additional day to skip over it. Note, you will probably still have to reformat the cell to Date after entering this formula as well. -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... Sorry, this one is correct type 1/3 in A2. 39085 appeared in G2. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: Telling us a result without telling us your input is meaningless... exactly what did you type into A2 to get that 693231 value? -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... In G2 , =DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)), number appeared, 693231. any idea? -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: You'll need to tell us precisely what values you've got in which cells. If you use the formula =A2 and format as General, what number do you have? If you use the formula =G2 and format as General, what number do you have? -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... I place the formula in G2, format cell A2 as dd-mmm-yyyy. whatever date style I enter, the year is still "2009". It refuse to compute! Ai!!! -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Max" wrote: .. in A2, I enter "1/3" (ie 3th Jan) and I expect A2 to read "3 Jan 2008", but "3 Jan 2009" appeared. well, that was precisely my point/sugegstion to you in my earlier response, A real date is a full valid, unambiguous date (day-month-year) recognized by Excel, eg: 01-Jan-2009. If you always practice entering dates as full dates, you won't get caught out with ambiguities such as what happened as you described. If you don't enter the date with the year in it - that's what you did, Excel will then assume the year is the current year (from the PC's clock), hence you get: "3 Jan 2009". You got "3 Jan 2008" previously because you entered it sometime last year (in 2008). Take my suggestion, never skimp on the data entry step when it comes to dates. Always enter it unambiguously in full, inclusive of the year, and use "mmm" format to denote the month as well in the date entry. -- Max Singapore http://savefile.com/projects/236895 Downloads:23,000 Files:370 Subscribers:66 xdemechanik --- |
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Thanks David,
This thread seems to attract many errors! -- Kind regards, Niek Otten Microsoft MVP - Excel "David Biddulph" <groups [at] biddulph.org.uk wrote in message ... I think you'll find that 39450 is 3 Jan 2008, not 1 Mar 2008, Niek, but yes, you are right, the formula in G2 is returning the value that the OP wanted, in 2008, so hopefully this saga is over. -- David Biddulph "Niek Otten" wrote in message ... Thta is March 1 2008, so you probably typed 3/1 in A2 instead of 1/3. Anyway, both result in a date in 2008, not 2009 -- Kind regards, Niek Otten Microsoft MVP - Excel "FangYR" wrote in message ... one more thing. 4) G2 reads 39450 -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: You have been told more than once that if you want our help you need to tell us specific values. "didnt work" is not a sufficiently specific problem description to enable anyone other than a clairvoyant to tell you what you did wrong. You steadfastly refuse to provide the information which has been requested, so none of us can help you. We know that the formulae which we provide will work (and we have tested them), but you won't tell us what you have done, so we can't help you to sort out what mistake you have made. I'm sorry if I sound short-tempered, but this thread has been going on for a number of days with many people trying to help you, but getting nowhere because you will not provide the detailed diagnostic information which they would need if they were to help you. -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... Hi David, Sorry to say, your last formula didnt work either. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: Correction: =DATE(G$1,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)) -- David Biddulph David Biddulph wrote: If you want all your dates to be shifted to a specific year, put that year in G1, for example, and make your G2 formula =DATE(YEAR(G$1),MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)) FangYR wrote: Thanks all of you for the effort. As I have stated in the beginning, that formula works before. I am entering last year's bills as a record. So, I would like to type in A2 a date (ie 1/3) that will automatically appear as dd/mmm/2008 (in cell A2, B2, C2, etc.), instead of the current year. If I have to type the full date in column A (eg. 3/1/2008), then putting a formula in column G serves no purpose. Hope I am making it clearer this time. column A =date column G =formula Going to work now, see you all later. Cheers. - - Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: That number makes more sense. 39085 is a "date" to Excel... it is the number of days since January 1, 1900. Format that cell as Date and the 39045 will change to 1/3/2007. Now, the reason for the 2007 instead of 2008 is because you are subtracting 2 from the YEAR(A2) value (hence 2 years prior) instead of subtracting 1 (to get last year). By the way, if you only want last years date (the formula I'm about to give you will only work to give last year's date), then give this much simpler (and more efficient) formula a try... =A2-365-(DAY(A2)<DAY(A2-365)) It subtracts the 365 days in a normal year and if the day values between the date in A2 and the date 365 days earlier don't match, then a leap year was present, so it subtracts an additional day to skip over it. Note, you will probably still have to reformat the cell to Date after entering this formula as well. -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... Sorry, this one is correct type 1/3 in A2. 39085 appeared in G2. -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Rick Rothstein" wrote: Telling us a result without telling us your input is meaningless... exactly what did you type into A2 to get that 693231 value? -- Rick (MVP - Excel) "FangYR" wrote in message ... In G2 , =DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2))-(MONTH(DATE(YEAR(A2)-2,MONTH(A2),DAY(A2)))<MONTH(A2)), number appeared, 693231. any idea? -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "David Biddulph" wrote: You'll need to tell us precisely what values you've got in which cells. If you use the formula =A2 and format as General, what number do you have? If you use the formula =G2 and format as General, what number do you have? -- David Biddulph "FangYR" wrote in message ... I place the formula in G2, format cell A2 as dd-mmm-yyyy. whatever date style I enter, the year is still "2009". It refuse to compute! Ai!!! -- Regards FangYR Malaysia "Max" wrote: .. in A2, I enter "1/3" (ie 3th Jan) and I expect A2 to read "3 Jan 2008", but "3 Jan 2009" appeared. well, that was precisely my point/sugegstion to you in my earlier response, A real date is a full valid, unambiguous date (day-month-year) recognized by Excel, eg: 01-Jan-2009. If you always practice entering dates as full dates, you won't get caught out with ambiguities such as what happened as you described. If you don't enter the date with the year in it - that's what you did, Excel will then assume the year is the current year (from the PC's clock), hence you get: "3 Jan 2009". You got "3 Jan 2008" previously because you entered it sometime last year (in 2008). Take my suggestion, never skimp on the data entry step when it comes to dates. Always enter it unambiguously in full, inclusive of the year, and use "mmm" format to denote the month as well in the date entry. -- Max Singapore http://savefile.com/projects/236895 Downloads:23,000 Files:370 Subscribers:66 xdemechanik --- |
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