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Default Coordinates of a grouped line

In code I draw 2 identical vertical lines (the end of one line is the start of the next). The lines are then grouped to form a grouped shape that is twice the length of the individual lines. I then rotate the shape a set number of degrees. How do I determine the new coordinates of the bottom end of the rotated shape. Using .left and .top etc. all give me the position of the shape before rotation. Is there a parameter which describes the new position?

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