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Default excel positioning in points for autoshapes

i want to know how to determine where (in Points) to position an autoshape
using vba (without recording a macro).
aparently shapes lines etc use a point system to position themselves using
start x axis, start y axis, end x asis and end y axis.

1. is it possible to view how many point there in in relation to a cell
reference, and
2. is it even possible to figure out the point system without recording a
macro???

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