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Flow chart of code? Is there a way to produce a graphical flow chart?
Is there a way to get a flow chart of the code? I remember flo charting back in school and it was a big help. Is there a module or something I can load to get a graphical flo chart -- Craig ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Craigm's Profile: http://www.excelforum.com/member.php...fo&userid=2438 View this thread: http://www.excelforum.com/showthread.php?threadid=39782 |
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Flow chart of code? Is there a way to produce a graphical flow chart?
I think you're supposed to create the flow chart before you write the code
;-) Regards Trevor "Craigm" wrote in message ... Is there a way to get a flow chart of the code? I remember flow charting back in school and it was a big help. Is there a module or something I can load to get a graphical flow chart? -- Craigm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Craigm's Profile: http://www.excelforum.com/member.php...o&userid=24381 View this thread: http://www.excelforum.com/showthread...hreadid=397821 |
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Flow chart of code? Is there a way to produce a graphical flow chart?
Do flowcharts work so well in an OO world?
-- HTH RP (remove nothere from the email address if mailing direct) "Trevor Shuttleworth" wrote in message ... I think you're supposed to create the flow chart before you write the code ;-) Regards Trevor "Craigm" wrote in message ... Is there a way to get a flow chart of the code? I remember flow charting back in school and it was a big help. Is there a module or something I can load to get a graphical flow chart? -- Craigm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Craigm's Profile: http://www.excelforum.com/member.php...o&userid=24381 View this thread: http://www.excelforum.com/showthread...hreadid=397821 |
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Flow chart of code? Is there a way to produce a graphical flow ch
There is no tool for createing a flow chart from existing code that I know
of. As Trevor aludes to that would be kind of backwards. Bob aludes to the fact that Flow charts are superceded by UML (univeral modeling language) for object oriented code. But it seems to me that VBA is not true object oriented and most of the code I see is more procedural than OO. So Flow charts might help a bit (but will probably get kind of confusing when you start dealing with sheet objects, range objects, the active cell and the like...). -- HTH... Jim Thomlinson "Craigm" wrote: Is there a way to get a flow chart of the code? I remember flow charting back in school and it was a big help. Is there a module or something I can load to get a graphical flow chart? -- Craigm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Craigm's Profile: http://www.excelforum.com/member.php...o&userid=24381 View this thread: http://www.excelforum.com/showthread...hreadid=397821 |
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Flow chart of code? Is there a way to produce a graphical flow chart?
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you still have to decide what you want/need to do with the object and under what circumstances. I don't think it hurts to have an outline of the process you want to implement ... but I must admit that more often these days I work it out as I go along. I still try to structure my code from the top down and use lots of comments which, in my view, is often better than a free standing flow chart that will likely never be referred to. Anyway, getting hypothetical now ... seems the answer to the OP is "no, no tool" Regards Trevor "Bob Phillips" wrote in message ... Do flowcharts work so well in an OO world? -- HTH RP (remove nothere from the email address if mailing direct) "Trevor Shuttleworth" wrote in message ... I think you're supposed to create the flow chart before you write the code ;-) Regards Trevor "Craigm" wrote in message ... Is there a way to get a flow chart of the code? I remember flow charting back in school and it was a big help. Is there a module or something I can load to get a graphical flow chart? -- Craigm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Craigm's Profile: http://www.excelforum.com/member.php...o&userid=24381 View this thread: http://www.excelforum.com/showthread...hreadid=397821 |
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Flow chart of code? Is there a way to produce a graphical flow chart?
My point Trevor is that OO is event driven, more interested in inputs and
outputs, there is not a flow in that sense. Design is important clearly, but we have a different design paradigm. Bob "Trevor Shuttleworth" wrote in message ... Bob you still have to decide what you want/need to do with the object and under what circumstances. I don't think it hurts to have an outline of the process you want to implement ... but I must admit that more often these days I work it out as I go along. I still try to structure my code from the top down and use lots of comments which, in my view, is often better than a free standing flow chart that will likely never be referred to. Anyway, getting hypothetical now ... seems the answer to the OP is "no, no tool" Regards Trevor "Bob Phillips" wrote in message ... Do flowcharts work so well in an OO world? -- HTH RP (remove nothere from the email address if mailing direct) "Trevor Shuttleworth" wrote in message ... I think you're supposed to create the flow chart before you write the code ;-) Regards Trevor "Craigm" wrote in message ... Is there a way to get a flow chart of the code? I remember flow charting back in school and it was a big help. Is there a module or something I can load to get a graphical flow chart? -- Craigm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Craigm's Profile: http://www.excelforum.com/member.php...o&userid=24381 View this thread: http://www.excelforum.com/showthread...hreadid=397821 |
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Flow chart of code? Is there a way to produce a graphical flo
But VB is not strictly OO. It is in fact very far from it. Try to use UML and
you will run into a pile of problems because most of the code is not OO but rather procedural. Of course who am I to talk I don't do either. I go with Trevor and I just comment the heck out of things... -- HTH... Jim Thomlinson "Bob Phillips" wrote: My point Trevor is that OO is event driven, more interested in inputs and outputs, there is not a flow in that sense. Design is important clearly, but we have a different design paradigm. Bob "Trevor Shuttleworth" wrote in message ... Bob you still have to decide what you want/need to do with the object and under what circumstances. I don't think it hurts to have an outline of the process you want to implement ... but I must admit that more often these days I work it out as I go along. I still try to structure my code from the top down and use lots of comments which, in my view, is often better than a free standing flow chart that will likely never be referred to. Anyway, getting hypothetical now ... seems the answer to the OP is "no, no tool" Regards Trevor "Bob Phillips" wrote in message ... Do flowcharts work so well in an OO world? -- HTH RP (remove nothere from the email address if mailing direct) "Trevor Shuttleworth" wrote in message ... I think you're supposed to create the flow chart before you write the code ;-) Regards Trevor "Craigm" wrote in message ... Is there a way to get a flow chart of the code? I remember flow charting back in school and it was a big help. Is there a module or something I can load to get a graphical flow chart? -- Craigm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Craigm's Profile: http://www.excelforum.com/member.php...o&userid=24381 View this thread: http://www.excelforum.com/showthread...hreadid=397821 |
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Flow chart of code? Is there a way to produce a graphical flowch
A flow chart can still be a useful tool. When the program responds to an event, it
follows a sequence of steps, and the flow chart can help the programmer navigate these steps. A node in the flow chart may denote a certain condition, where the program is awaiting an event, and during which only some events are possible. The node may have several branches, corresponding to the possible reactions to events. I often draw a quick flow chart, not for documentation as much as to work out a tough patch of code. - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Peltier Technical Services Tutorials and Custom Solutions http://PeltierTech.com/ _______ Jim Thomlinson wrote: There is no tool for createing a flow chart from existing code that I know of. As Trevor aludes to that would be kind of backwards. Bob aludes to the fact that Flow charts are superceded by UML (univeral modeling language) for object oriented code. But it seems to me that VBA is not true object oriented and most of the code I see is more procedural than OO. So Flow charts might help a bit (but will probably get kind of confusing when you start dealing with sheet objects, range objects, the active cell and the like...). |
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Flow chart of code? Is there a way to produce a graphical flo
I don't think I am arguing with either Trevor's or your approach Jim. I am
just saying that a flowchart in a real Excel app would be about as useful a documentation tool as ... well you can find an appropriate phrase. VBA is not object orientation, but it is object oriented IMO, especially when you use classes extensively. In such an app, the design is not procedural, it is event driven as I said before. I agree with Jon (Peltier) in believing that flowcharts might be useful as a transient aid in working through a particular logic flow (responding to one particular event say), but to document the app, forget it. -- HTH RP (remove nothere from the email address if mailing direct) "Jim Thomlinson" wrote in message ... But VB is not strictly OO. It is in fact very far from it. Try to use UML and you will run into a pile of problems because most of the code is not OO but rather procedural. Of course who am I to talk I don't do either. I go with Trevor and I just comment the heck out of things... -- HTH... Jim Thomlinson "Bob Phillips" wrote: My point Trevor is that OO is event driven, more interested in inputs and outputs, there is not a flow in that sense. Design is important clearly, but we have a different design paradigm. Bob "Trevor Shuttleworth" wrote in message ... Bob you still have to decide what you want/need to do with the object and under what circumstances. I don't think it hurts to have an outline of the process you want to implement ... but I must admit that more often these days I work it out as I go along. I still try to structure my code from the top down and use lots of comments which, in my view, is often better than a free standing flow chart that will likely never be referred to. Anyway, getting hypothetical now ... seems the answer to the OP is "no, no tool" Regards Trevor "Bob Phillips" wrote in message ... Do flowcharts work so well in an OO world? -- HTH RP (remove nothere from the email address if mailing direct) "Trevor Shuttleworth" wrote in message ... I think you're supposed to create the flow chart before you write the code ;-) Regards Trevor "Craigm" wrote in message ... Is there a way to get a flow chart of the code? I remember flow charting back in school and it was a big help. Is there a module or something I can load to get a graphical flow chart? -- Craigm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Craigm's Profile: http://www.excelforum.com/member.php...o&userid=24381 View this thread: http://www.excelforum.com/showthread...hreadid=397821 |
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