Hi,

Got a bit of a problem with a protected worksheet. The person who created
the sheet has now left my company and we need to access it to update it with
new formulas. Is it possible to do this without a password e.g. saving the
sheet as a seperate name - or do we have to re-build the entire sheet from
scratch?

thanks,
Bryan

See

http://www.mcgimpsey.com/excel/removepwords.html

In article ,
Bryan wrote:

Hi,

Got a bit of a problem with a protected worksheet. The person who created
the sheet has now left my company and we need to access it to update it with
new formulas. Is it possible to do this without a password e.g. saving the
sheet as a seperate name - or do we have to re-build the entire sheet from
scratch?

thanks,
Bryan

have a look on

www.mcgimpsey.com/excel/removepwords.html

regards


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Thanks,

I have done this and it worked a treat!

Thanks for your help,
Bryan

"JE McGimpsey" wrote:

See

http://www.mcgimpsey.com/excel/removepwords.html

In article ,
Bryan wrote:

Hi,

Got a bit of a problem with a protected worksheet. The person who created
the sheet has now left my company and we need to access it to update it with
new formulas. Is it possible to do this without a password e.g. saving the
sheet as a seperate name - or do we have to re-build the entire sheet from
scratch?

thanks,
Bryan

JE
I went to your site:
http://www.mcgimpsey.com/excel/removepwords.html
Very useful.
I have one question. In the remarked-out text with the code, you say
"Reveals hashed passwords NOT original passwords".
You lost me there. What are "hashed passwords" and what are "original
passwords"? Thanks for your help. Otto
"JE McGimpsey" wrote in message
...
See

http://www.mcgimpsey.com/excel/removepwords.html

In article ,
Bryan wrote:

Hi,

Got a bit of a problem with a protected worksheet. The person who
created
the sheet has now left my company and we need to access it to update it
with
new formulas. Is it possible to do this without a password e.g. saving
the
sheet as a seperate name - or do we have to re-build the entire sheet
from
scratch?

thanks,
Bryan

JE
A second question/problem. I made up a dummy file with 3 sheets. I
protected the file and each sheet with passwords, different passwords in
each case.
The code removed the sheet protections and the associated passwords, but
it did nothing about the workbook-open protection or password. In fact, a
MsgBox at the start said that the file did not have protection for workbook
structure or windows. When I now run the code again, the MsgBox says that
the file does not have sheet or workbook structure or window protection.
Did I miss something?
Thanks again for your help. Otto
"Otto Moehrbach" wrote in message
...
JE
I went to your site:
http://www.mcgimpsey.com/excel/removepwords.html
Very useful.
I have one question. In the remarked-out text with the code, you say
"Reveals hashed passwords NOT original passwords".
You lost me there. What are "hashed passwords" and what are "original
passwords"? Thanks for your help. Otto
"JE McGimpsey" wrote in message
...
See

http://www.mcgimpsey.com/excel/removepwords.html

In article ,
Bryan wrote:

Hi,

Got a bit of a problem with a protected worksheet. The person who
created
the sheet has now left my company and we need to access it to update it
with
new formulas. Is it possible to do this without a password e.g. saving
the
sheet as a seperate name - or do we have to re-build the entire sheet
from
scratch?

thanks,
Bryan

JE
Now that I have read everything you wrote on your site, I take back my
last message. Thanks. Otto
"Otto Moehrbach" wrote in message
...
JE
A second question/problem. I made up a dummy file with 3 sheets. I
protected the file and each sheet with passwords, different passwords in
each case.
The code removed the sheet protections and the associated passwords,
but it did nothing about the workbook-open protection or password. In
fact, a MsgBox at the start said that the file did not have protection
for workbook structure or windows. When I now run the code again, the
MsgBox says that the file does not have sheet or workbook structure or
window protection.
Did I miss something?
Thanks again for your help. Otto
"Otto Moehrbach" wrote in message
...
JE
I went to your site:
http://www.mcgimpsey.com/excel/removepwords.html
Very useful.
I have one question. In the remarked-out text with the code, you say
"Reveals hashed passwords NOT original passwords".
You lost me there. What are "hashed passwords" and what are "original
passwords"? Thanks for your help. Otto
"JE McGimpsey" wrote in message
...
See

http://www.mcgimpsey.com/excel/removepwords.html

In article ,
Bryan wrote:

Hi,

Got a bit of a problem with a protected worksheet. The person who
created
the sheet has now left my company and we need to access it to update it
with
new formulas. Is it possible to do this without a password e.g. saving
the
sheet as a seperate name - or do we have to re-build the entire sheet
from
scratch?

thanks,
Bryan

Otto,

I think both your questions has one answer;

I believe J.E.'s "original passwords" are the password you set under
filesave as, toolsgeneral options and password to open and password to
modify


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"Otto Moehrbach" wrote in message
...
JE
A second question/problem. I made up a dummy file with 3 sheets. I
protected the file and each sheet with passwords, different passwords in
each case.
The code removed the sheet protections and the associated passwords,
but it did nothing about the workbook-open protection or password. In
fact, a MsgBox at the start said that the file did not have protection
for workbook structure or windows. When I now run the code again, the
MsgBox says that the file does not have sheet or workbook structure or
window protection.
Did I miss something?
Thanks again for your help. Otto
"Otto Moehrbach" wrote in message
...
JE
I went to your site:
http://www.mcgimpsey.com/excel/removepwords.html
Very useful.
I have one question. In the remarked-out text with the code, you say
"Reveals hashed passwords NOT original passwords".
You lost me there. What are "hashed passwords" and what are "original
passwords"? Thanks for your help. Otto
"JE McGimpsey" wrote in message
...
See

http://www.mcgimpsey.com/excel/removepwords.html

In article ,
Bryan wrote:

Hi,

Got a bit of a problem with a protected worksheet. The person who
created
the sheet has now left my company and we need to access it to update it
with
new formulas. Is it possible to do this without a password e.g. saving
the
sheet as a seperate name - or do we have to re-build the entire sheet
from
scratch?

thanks,
Bryan

JE
Another comment/question. In your site you differentiate between
Workbook protection and File protection. I've always considered Workbook
and File to mean the same thing, but I understand the distinction that you
explain as regards protection.
When I protected the file, I did so with Tools - Options - Security tab,
typed in a password. All that was done before I saved the file. I then
saved and closed and opened the file and verified that I indeed needed a
password to open the file.
As I understand your explanation in your site, your code should have
removed my Workbook protection, but it didn't. Did I miss something? Otto
"Otto Moehrbach" wrote in message
...
JE
A second question/problem. I made up a dummy file with 3 sheets. I
protected the file and each sheet with passwords, different passwords in
each case.
The code removed the sheet protections and the associated passwords,
but it did nothing about the workbook-open protection or password. In
fact, a MsgBox at the start said that the file did not have protection
for workbook structure or windows. When I now run the code again, the
MsgBox says that the file does not have sheet or workbook structure or
window protection.
Did I miss something?
Thanks again for your help. Otto
"Otto Moehrbach" wrote in message
...
JE
I went to your site:
http://www.mcgimpsey.com/excel/removepwords.html
Very useful.
I have one question. In the remarked-out text with the code, you say
"Reveals hashed passwords NOT original passwords".
You lost me there. What are "hashed passwords" and what are "original
passwords"? Thanks for your help. Otto
"JE McGimpsey" wrote in message
...
See

http://www.mcgimpsey.com/excel/removepwords.html

In article ,
Bryan wrote:

Hi,

Got a bit of a problem with a protected worksheet. The person who
created
the sheet has now left my company and we need to access it to update it
with
new formulas. Is it possible to do this without a password e.g. saving
the
sheet as a seperate name - or do we have to re-build the entire sheet
from
scratch?

thanks,
Bryan

Otto

There are several types of password protection.

1. Password to open the file. Can be set at FileSave AsToolsGeneral
Options.

2. Password on a protected worksheet. This is set at ToolsProtectionProtect
Sheet.

Many functions can be disabled using this type of protection.

3. Workbook Protection password. This is set at ToolsProtectionProtect
Workbook.

This protects the workbook from having sheets deleted and other functions
disabled.

4. VBA Project password to prevent viewers from looking at code modules.

NOTE: except for File to Open protection and VBA project passwords, most forms
of Excel protection are very weak and passwords can be easily cracked.


Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:19:26 -0400, "Otto Moehrbach"
wrote:

JE
Another comment/question. In your site you differentiate between
Workbook protection and File protection. I've always considered Workbook
and File to mean the same thing, but I understand the distinction that you
explain as regards protection.
When I protected the file, I did so with Tools - Options - Security tab,
typed in a password. All that was done before I saved the file. I then
saved and closed and opened the file and verified that I indeed needed a
password to open the file.
As I understand your explanation in your site, your code should have
removed my Workbook protection, but it didn't. Did I miss something? Otto
"Otto Moehrbach" wrote in message
...
JE
A second question/problem. I made up a dummy file with 3 sheets. I
protected the file and each sheet with passwords, different passwords in
each case.
The code removed the sheet protections and the associated passwords,
but it did nothing about the workbook-open protection or password. In
fact, a MsgBox at the start said that the file did not have protection
for workbook structure or windows. When I now run the code again, the
MsgBox says that the file does not have sheet or workbook structure or
window protection.
Did I miss something?
Thanks again for your help. Otto
"Otto Moehrbach" wrote in message
...
JE
I went to your site:
http://www.mcgimpsey.com/excel/removepwords.html
Very useful.
I have one question. In the remarked-out text with the code, you say
"Reveals hashed passwords NOT original passwords".
You lost me there. What are "hashed passwords" and what are "original
passwords"? Thanks for your help. Otto
"JE McGimpsey" wrote in message
...
See

http://www.mcgimpsey.com/excel/removepwords.html

In article ,
Bryan wrote:

Hi,

Got a bit of a problem with a protected worksheet. The person who
created
the sheet has now left my company and we need to access it to update it
with
new formulas. Is it possible to do this without a password e.g. saving
the
sheet as a seperate name - or do we have to re-build the entire sheet
from
scratch?

thanks,
Bryan






Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

Passwords that you enter, of whatever length, are converted, or hashed,
into what is effectively a 12-character string, and stored in the
workbook, rather than what you entered.

There can be an essentially infinite number of passwords, but each one
will hash to one of the 194K 12-character strings. Since the original,
or user-entered, password is not stored, only a representation of the
hash can be determined (e.g., by brute-force attempts to unprotect the
worksheet), not the original password.


In article ,
"Otto Moehrbach" wrote:

I have one question. In the remarked-out text with the code, you say
"Reveals hashed passwords NOT original passwords".
You lost me there. What are "hashed passwords" and what are "original
passwords"?

JE
Thanks for that. I understand it. Otto
"JE McGimpsey" wrote in message
...
Passwords that you enter, of whatever length, are converted, or hashed,
into what is effectively a 12-character string, and stored in the
workbook, rather than what you entered.

There can be an essentially infinite number of passwords, but each one
will hash to one of the 194K 12-character strings. Since the original,
or user-entered, password is not stored, only a representation of the
hash can be determined (e.g., by brute-force attempts to unprotect the
worksheet), not the original password.


In article ,
"Otto Moehrbach" wrote:

I have one question. In the remarked-out text with the code, you say
"Reveals hashed passwords NOT original passwords".
You lost me there. What are "hashed passwords" and what are
"original
passwords"?