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Old February 8th 05, 02:35 PM
kraymond
 
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I need to make a combination graph with a time x-axis and two series: 3
columns at X = 1988, 1995, and 1999; and a set of X-Y points with date
(1/1/1980, etc.) as X. So far, I cannot make the columns appear on the axis
at the correct location within the time x axis, whether I use line or scatter
for my other series. The columns are just plotted equally spaced from each
other, ignoring the x-axis, or if I make sure that their x-axis is time, then
they plot as very skinny vertical lines at the correct places. Is there any
way of getting around this without using yearly averages for my x-y scatter
data?

Example:

Point data:
Date Value
1/1/1980 .5
2/5/1980 .1
5/1/1988 .6
10/7/1990 .4
12/1/1995 .1
12/1/1996 .2
3/10/1999 .3

Column data:
1988 30
1995 40
1999 70

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Old February 8th 05, 02:45 PM
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You can change the bar width. Double click on the series to get to Format
Data Series. Select the Options tab and change the gap width to 0 to have
no gap between the cells.
"kraymond" wrote in message
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I need to make a combination graph with a time x-axis and two series: 3
columns at X = 1988, 1995, and 1999; and a set of X-Y points with date
(1/1/1980, etc.) as X. So far, I cannot make the columns appear on the

axis
at the correct location within the time x axis, whether I use line or

scatter
for my other series. The columns are just plotted equally spaced from

each
other, ignoring the x-axis, or if I make sure that their x-axis is time,

then
they plot as very skinny vertical lines at the correct places. Is there

any
way of getting around this without using yearly averages for my x-y

scatter
data?

Example:

Point data:
Date Value
1/1/1980 .5
2/5/1980 .1
5/1/1988 .6
10/7/1990 .4
12/1/1995 .1
12/1/1996 .2
3/10/1999 .3

Column data:
1988 30
1995 40
1999 70



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Old February 8th 05, 03:05 PM
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Thanks, it worked. I thought I had tried that and failed, but it worked fine
this time as long as my time axis wasn't too long.

"Barb Reinhardt" wrote:

You can change the bar width. Double click on the series to get to Format
Data Series. Select the Options tab and change the gap width to 0 to have
no gap between the cells.
"kraymond" wrote in message
...
I need to make a combination graph with a time x-axis and two series: 3
columns at X = 1988, 1995, and 1999; and a set of X-Y points with date
(1/1/1980, etc.) as X. So far, I cannot make the columns appear on the

axis
at the correct location within the time x axis, whether I use line or

scatter
for my other series. The columns are just plotted equally spaced from

each
other, ignoring the x-axis, or if I make sure that their x-axis is time,

then
they plot as very skinny vertical lines at the correct places. Is there

any
way of getting around this without using yearly averages for my x-y

scatter
data?

Example:

Point data:
Date Value
1/1/1980 .5
2/5/1980 .1
5/1/1988 .6
10/7/1990 .4
12/1/1995 .1
12/1/1996 .2
3/10/1999 .3

Column data:
1988 30
1995 40
1999 70




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Old February 8th 05, 07:50 PM
Jon Peltier
 
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The widest your columns can be in this circumstance is as wide as one
day. Even if your data is sparse, Excel's time scale axis reserves a
space for every day.

Something else you can try to improve the appearance of these skinny
columns: format the columns with a darker fill color and no border.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Peltier Technical Services
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
http://PeltierTech.com/
_______

kraymond wrote:

Thanks, it worked. I thought I had tried that and failed, but it worked fine
this time as long as my time axis wasn't too long.

"Barb Reinhardt" wrote:


You can change the bar width. Double click on the series to get to Format
Data Series. Select the Options tab and change the gap width to 0 to have
no gap between the cells.
"kraymond" wrote in message
...

I need to make a combination graph with a time x-axis and two series: 3
columns at X = 1988, 1995, and 1999; and a set of X-Y points with date
(1/1/1980, etc.) as X. So far, I cannot make the columns appear on the


axis

at the correct location within the time x axis, whether I use line or


scatter

for my other series. The columns are just plotted equally spaced from


each

other, ignoring the x-axis, or if I make sure that their x-axis is time,


then

they plot as very skinny vertical lines at the correct places. Is there


any

way of getting around this without using yearly averages for my x-y


scatter

data?

Example:

Point data:
Date Value
1/1/1980 .5
2/5/1980 .1
5/1/1988 .6
10/7/1990 .4
12/1/1995 .1
12/1/1996 .2
3/10/1999 .3

Column data:
1988 30
1995 40
1999 70




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Old February 8th 05, 08:35 PM
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Yes, once I plotted the columns, I had to change the x-axis base unit to 1
year to make it look half-way decent. That made all of my other points plot
vertically directly above the middle of the year, instead of on the specific
dates like I wanted.
It was the best I could do in the end.


"Jon Peltier" wrote:

The widest your columns can be in this circumstance is as wide as one
day. Even if your data is sparse, Excel's time scale axis reserves a
space for every day.

Something else you can try to improve the appearance of these skinny
columns: format the columns with a darker fill color and no border.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Peltier Technical Services
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
http://PeltierTech.com/
_______

kraymond wrote:

Thanks, it worked. I thought I had tried that and failed, but it worked fine
this time as long as my time axis wasn't too long.

"Barb Reinhardt" wrote:


You can change the bar width. Double click on the series to get to Format
Data Series. Select the Options tab and change the gap width to 0 to have
no gap between the cells.
"kraymond" wrote in message
...

I need to make a combination graph with a time x-axis and two series: 3
columns at X = 1988, 1995, and 1999; and a set of X-Y points with date
(1/1/1980, etc.) as X. So far, I cannot make the columns appear on the

axis

at the correct location within the time x axis, whether I use line or

scatter

for my other series. The columns are just plotted equally spaced from

each

other, ignoring the x-axis, or if I make sure that their x-axis is time,

then

they plot as very skinny vertical lines at the correct places. Is there

any

way of getting around this without using yearly averages for my x-y

scatter

data?

Example:

Point data:
Date Value
1/1/1980 .5
2/5/1980 .1
5/1/1988 .6
10/7/1990 .4
12/1/1995 .1
12/1/1996 .2
3/10/1999 .3

Column data:
1988 30
1995 40
1999 70






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Old February 8th 05, 11:34 PM
Jon Peltier
 
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You could plot the other data on the secondary axis: add at least one
series, double click on it, and on the Axis tab, select Secondary. This
only gives you a secondary Y axis. Choose Chart Options from the Chart
menu, and on the Axes tab, check the secondary category axis, and if
desired, uncheck the secondary Y axis. Format the scale of the secondary
X axis so it starts on the first day of the first year on the primary
axis, and ends on the last day of the last year on the primary axis.
Then if you want to hide the secondary axis, double click on it, and on
the Patterns tab, choose every None option you can find.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Peltier Technical Services
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
http://PeltierTech.com/
_______

kraymond wrote:
Yes, once I plotted the columns, I had to change the x-axis base unit to 1
year to make it look half-way decent. That made all of my other points plot
vertically directly above the middle of the year, instead of on the specific
dates like I wanted.
It was the best I could do in the end.


"Jon Peltier" wrote:


The widest your columns can be in this circumstance is as wide as one
day. Even if your data is sparse, Excel's time scale axis reserves a
space for every day.

Something else you can try to improve the appearance of these skinny
columns: format the columns with a darker fill color and no border.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Peltier Technical Services
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
http://PeltierTech.com/
_______

kraymond wrote:


Thanks, it worked. I thought I had tried that and failed, but it worked fine
this time as long as my time axis wasn't too long.

"Barb Reinhardt" wrote:



You can change the bar width. Double click on the series to get to Format
Data Series. Select the Options tab and change the gap width to 0 to have
no gap between the cells.
"kraymond" wrote in message
...


I need to make a combination graph with a time x-axis and two series: 3
columns at X = 1988, 1995, and 1999; and a set of X-Y points with date
(1/1/1980, etc.) as X. So far, I cannot make the columns appear on the

axis


at the correct location within the time x axis, whether I use line or

scatter


for my other series. The columns are just plotted equally spaced from

each


other, ignoring the x-axis, or if I make sure that their x-axis is time,

then


they plot as very skinny vertical lines at the correct places. Is there

any


way of getting around this without using yearly averages for my x-y

scatter


data?

Example:

Point data:
Date Value
1/1/1980 .5
2/5/1980 .1
5/1/1988 .6
10/7/1990 .4
12/1/1995 .1
12/1/1996 .2
3/10/1999 .3

Column data:
1988 30
1995 40
1999 70





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