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Pheasant PluckerŪ
 
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Default Deferring conditional formatting?

Dave,

You're a genius!

You wouldn't believe how many times I tried to enter a 'similar' formula
into H22 only to have Excel throw up its hands in disgust...

I tried everything I could think of drawing on what knowledge I have gleaned
from this ng in general, you in particular but to no avail.

Many thanks...it is much appreciated.

Kind regards,
-=pp=-


"Dave Peterson" wrote in message
...
Maybe adding another check to the formula in the cell:

=IF(H20=0,"",IF(H20<75,"FAIL","PASS"))
becomes
=IF(or(counta(c12:g12)<5,H20=0),"",IF(H20<75,"FAIL ","PASS"))



"Pheasant PluckerŪ" wrote:

Thanks for your patience Dave,

The result in H22 depends upon the result displayed in H20 which in turn
depends upon data entered in C12:G12

With me so far? ;^)

The formula in H22 is exactly as you stated below;
=IF(H20=0,"",IF(H20<75,"FAIL","PASS"))

The Conditional Formatting in H22 is set as follows;

Condition 1
Formula=AND(COUNTA(C12:G12)=5,H22="FAIL") is set to pattern RED

Condition 2
Formula=AND(COUNTA(C12:G12)=5,H22="PASS") is set to pattern GREEN

The basic H22 Format Cells is set as follows;
Number - General
Font - Bold
Pattern - Yellow
Locked

At 'rest' with no data input the cell is coloured YELLOW with no text

(good)
When I enter the first number in C12 which is a maximum of 25 then H22

stays
YELLOW (good) but the word FAIL is displayed (bad)

This I believe is being displayed because of the formula in H22 as at

this
point H20 will always be below 75

The difficult thing is that until all 5 cells (C12:G12) have data in

them I
want H22 not to display FAIL (or PASS for that matter)

Obviously when data is entered in all cells C12:G12 then it works as
expected;
H20 is below 75 then H22 turns RED & displays FAIL (good)
H20 is 75 or above then H22 turns GREEN & displays PASS (good)

Does that make sense Dave?

Thanks again.

Kind regards,
-=pp=-

"Dave Peterson" wrote in message
...
I don't quite understand.

If your formula (in the cell, not format|conditional formatting) looks

like
this:
=IF(H20=0,"",IF(H20<75,"FAIL","PASS"))

Then it should ok.

You may want to post your formulas and your criteria once more.

"Pheasant PluckerŪ" wrote:

Hey Dave,

Many thanks for the quick reply.

Don't forget you are dealing with a complete muppet when it comes to

Excel
;^)

If I understand you correctly I need to replace my existing

Conditional
Formatting where I am using Cell Value to your Conditional

Formatting
Formula below?

When I do that it works to a degree - H22 now stays Yellow until

C12:G12
are
all filled in (Terrific!) when it then turns Green or Red displaying

Pass or
Fail depending upon whether the pass mark of 75 has been achieved.

The only fly in the ointment is that when I start to fill in data in

C12:G12
then H22 (although it now stays Yellow :-) still displays the word

FAIL

I was hoping to delay the word Pass or Fail until all the cells

C12:G12
were
filled in.

In my ignorance the problem now seems to lie in the formula for H22

as
when
it sees anything below 75 in H20 it is going to display a FAIL even

before
all the cells C12:G12 have been completed.

Is there any way to defer the H22 formula until all the Cells

C12:G12
have
been filled in please?

Thanks again & kind regards,
-=pp=-

"Dave Peterson" wrote in message
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Any cell in C12:G12 or all the cells in c12:g12.

Since you weren't using a formula--just a comparison:
Cell Value Is equal to ="FAIL" format pattern RED

In either case, maybe you can add one more condition to your
format|condional
formatting formulas:

=and(counta(c12:g12)=5,h22="fail")
or
=and(counta(c12:g12)0,h22="fail")

Same kind of thing with Pass.


"Pheasant PluckerŪ" wrote:

Hello again Dave,

Don't know if you are still reading this thread...sorry for the

delay in
replying - I have only got around to working with this

spreadsheet
again
as
I have a teleconference booked for Monday where I need to

present
some
stuff
including this spreadsheet. :-/

Shall I put your name in the credits? ;^)

OK...I did input your suggestions into the Conditional

Formatting in
Cell
H20 and it does work exactly as you stated - many thanks.

Incidentally I also lowered the pass mark from 80 to 75

The one problem I have now is Cell H22 that is setup as follows;

At 'rest' this will display nothing but a YELLOW pattern - no

text.
When below the H20 pass mark of 75 it displays FAIL on a RED

pattern
When equal to or above the H20 pass mark of 75 it displays PASS

on a
GREEN
pattern.

What I really need is for it not to change its default behaviour

of
displaying no text on a yellow background until those cells

C12:G12
have
been completed - much as we deferred H20 to do nothing until

C12:G12
have
all been completed and then display as above (either FAIL on a

RED
pattern
if H20 is under 75 or PASS on a GREEN pattern if H20 is 75 or

over).

Does that make sense?

If it helps H22 currently has the following attributes;

Formula:
=IF(H20=0,"",IF(H20<75,"FAIL","PASS"))

Conditional Formatting:
Cell Value Is equal to ="'FAIL" format pattern RED
Cell Value Is equal to ="'PASS" format pattern GREEN

Your (or any other:-) help would be much appreciated!

Thanks & kind regards,
-=pp=-

"Dave Peterson" wrote in message
...
Maybe you could post exactly what you did.

select your cell and format|Conditional formatting

Then copy both formulas into your reply.

"Pheasant PluckerŪ" wrote:

Whoops...sorry Dave.

Shows my ignorance I guess..:-/

I did try the CF that you suggested and the cell doesn't

turn
red
immediately when you input the first number in the first

cell
which
was
what
I wanted.

However it stays yellow all the time now!

It doesn't turn green when above 80 nor red below 80 even

after
those 5
cells have data in - it just stays yellow...

No worries...probably I missed something else fundamental...

Thanks for trying.

Kind regards,
-=pp=-

"Dave Peterson" wrote in message
...
I didn't mean for you to change the formula in the cell.

I
meant
for
you
to
change the conditional formatting formula/rules.

Since you're using "Cell value is", you'll have to change

it
to
"Formula
is"

First format:
=and(counta(c12:g12)=5,and(1<=h20,h20<80))

And second format:
=and(counta(c12:g12)=5,h20=80)



"Pheasant PluckerŪ" wrote:

Hi Dave,

Thanks for your quick reply.

The existing formula in H20 is [=H17-H19]

Conditional Formatting for H20 is two-fold;
Cell Value between 1 - 79.99 Format pattern Red
Cell Value greater than or equal to Format 80 pattern

Green

I did try what you suggested by prefixing the existing

formula
to
give;
[=AND(COUNTA(C12:G12)=5,H17-H19)) but then the word

FALSE or
TRUE
appears in
cell H20 which I do not want.

Nice try - thanks anyway :-)

Kind regards,
-=pp=-

"Dave Peterson" wrote in

message
...
Depending on what you used for your conditional

formatting
rules,
maybe
you
could just add another requirement:

=and(counta(c12:g12)=5,(yourexistingrules))



"Pheasant PluckerŪ" wrote:

Does the subject even make sense?

I have a cell H20 that when the spreadsheet is blank

is
coloured
yellow
to
highlight the fact that it has a special purpose.

When the spreadsheet is blank the number 0 is

displayed
in
this
cell.

It has Conditional Formatting applied to it to turn

the
cell
red
and
display
the word FAIL if the summed result is between 1 and

79.99

For 80 and above the cell is coloured green and the

word
PASS is
displayed
in it.

All great so far...

However the summed result in this cell H20 depends

upon
the
result
of
another cell H17 that in turn depends upon the input

of
5
other
cells
C12:G12

I would rather H20 does not change colour until all

of
those
5
cells
C12:G12
have data in them as it would be wrong to display

FAIL
in a
red
cell
until
the result of all 5 cells are input.

Does that make sense and is this even possible?

--
Regards,
-pp-

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