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Epinn

Why use Subtotals 1-11 instead of the built-in functions directly?
 
I see the need to use 101-111 for Subtotals; e.g. I want to ignore hidden
values.

But, I don't see why I want to use Subtotals 1-11, instead of using the
built-in functions like average, count, max etc. directly.

I do understand that if I use DataSubtotals, I can later modify the
Subtotals function which may have 1-11.

Please enlighten me. Why would I choose Subtotals 1-11 over a more direct
method? Am I missing something obvious?

Thanks.

Epinn



gls858

Why use Subtotals 1-11 instead of the built-in functions directly?
 
Epinn wrote:
I see the need to use 101-111 for Subtotals; e.g. I want to ignore hidden
values.

But, I don't see why I want to use Subtotals 1-11, instead of using the
built-in functions like average, count, max etc. directly.

I do understand that if I use DataSubtotals, I can later modify the
Subtotals function which may have 1-11.

Please enlighten me. Why would I choose Subtotals 1-11 over a more direct
method? Am I missing something obvious?

Thanks.

Epinn


Remember we can't see your spreadsheet. The above question can't be
answered with the info you provided.

gls858

Leo Heuser

Why use Subtotals 1-11 instead of the built-in functions directly?
 
"Epinn" skrev i en meddelelse
...
I see the need to use 101-111 for Subtotals; e.g. I want to ignore hidden
values.

But, I don't see why I want to use Subtotals 1-11, instead of using the
built-in functions like average, count, max etc. directly.

I do understand that if I use DataSubtotals, I can later modify the
Subtotals function which may have 1-11.

Please enlighten me. Why would I choose Subtotals 1-11 over a more direct
method? Am I missing something obvious?

Thanks.

Epinn



Epinn

The important difference between Subtotal 1-11 and Subtotal 101 - 111 is,
that Subtotal 1-11 do not work on rows *hidden by filtering*, while
Subtotal 101 - 111 don't work on *any* hidden row (hidden by filtering OR
hidden manually).
The built-in functions you mention works on all rows, hidden or visible.


--
Best regards
Leo Heuser

Followup to newsgroup only please.



Epinn

Why use Subtotals 1-11 instead of the built-in functions directly?
 
Remember we can't see your spreadsheet. The above question can't be
answered with the info you provided.


Why do you need a spreadsheet? This is a **general** question to understand
a theory/concept. I have already cited my understanding below. I am asking
for examples as to why I want to use one method over the other. Anyone else
who understands what I am asking, please feel free to contribute.

Thanks.

Epinn

"gls858" wrote in message
...
Epinn wrote:
I see the need to use 101-111 for Subtotals; e.g. I want to ignore

hidden
values.

But, I don't see why I want to use Subtotals 1-11, instead of using the
built-in functions like average, count, max etc. directly.

I do understand that if I use DataSubtotals, I can later modify the
Subtotals function which may have 1-11.

Please enlighten me. Why would I choose Subtotals 1-11 over a more

direct
method? Am I missing something obvious?

Thanks.

Epinn


Remember we can't see your spreadsheet. The above question can't be
answered with the info you provided.

gls858




Bob Phillips

Why use Subtotals 1-11 instead of the built-in functions directly?
 
Subtotals will ignore rows that have been filtered via
DataFilterAutofilter

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HTH

Bob Phillips

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"Epinn" wrote in message
...
Remember we can't see your spreadsheet. The above question can't be
answered with the info you provided.


Why do you need a spreadsheet? This is a **general** question to

understand
a theory/concept. I have already cited my understanding below. I am

asking
for examples as to why I want to use one method over the other. Anyone

else
who understands what I am asking, please feel free to contribute.

Thanks.

Epinn

"gls858" wrote in message
...
Epinn wrote:
I see the need to use 101-111 for Subtotals; e.g. I want to ignore

hidden
values.

But, I don't see why I want to use Subtotals 1-11, instead of using

the
built-in functions like average, count, max etc. directly.

I do understand that if I use DataSubtotals, I can later modify the
Subtotals function which may have 1-11.

Please enlighten me. Why would I choose Subtotals 1-11 over a more

direct
method? Am I missing something obvious?

Thanks.

Epinn


Remember we can't see your spreadsheet. The above question can't be
answered with the info you provided.

gls858






Epinn

Why use Subtotals 1-11 instead of the built-in functions directly?
 
Leo,

Thank you so much. You told me exactly what I needed to know but missed.

The help feature talked about 1-11 including hidden values as a result of
formatrowhide but it had no mention of data hidden as a result of
**AutoFilter**.

What a subtle difference that can cause dramatically different effect!

Your help is much appreciated.

Cheers,

Epinn

"Leo Heuser" wrote in message
...
"Epinn" skrev i en meddelelse
...
I see the need to use 101-111 for Subtotals; e.g. I want to ignore hidden
values.

But, I don't see why I want to use Subtotals 1-11, instead of using the
built-in functions like average, count, max etc. directly.

I do understand that if I use DataSubtotals, I can later modify the
Subtotals function which may have 1-11.

Please enlighten me. Why would I choose Subtotals 1-11 over a more

direct
method? Am I missing something obvious?

Thanks.

Epinn



Epinn

The important difference between Subtotal 1-11 and Subtotal 101 - 111 is,
that Subtotal 1-11 do not work on rows *hidden by filtering*, while
Subtotal 101 - 111 don't work on *any* hidden row (hidden by filtering OR
hidden manually).
The built-in functions you mention works on all rows, hidden or visible.


--
Best regards
Leo Heuser

Followup to newsgroup only please.





Leo Heuser

Why use Subtotals 1-11 instead of the built-in functions directly?
 
You're welcome, Epinn.
Thanks for the feedback!

You're right about "Help". It's not very clear
in this situation.

--
Regards
Leo Heuser

"Epinn" skrev i en meddelelse
...
Leo,

Thank you so much. You told me exactly what I needed to know but missed.

The help feature talked about 1-11 including hidden values as a result of
formatrowhide but it had no mention of data hidden as a result of
**AutoFilter**.

What a subtle difference that can cause dramatically different effect!

Your help is much appreciated.

Cheers,

Epinn

"Leo Heuser" wrote in message
...
"Epinn" skrev i en meddelelse
...
I see the need to use 101-111 for Subtotals; e.g. I want to ignore
hidden
values.

But, I don't see why I want to use Subtotals 1-11, instead of using the
built-in functions like average, count, max etc. directly.

I do understand that if I use DataSubtotals, I can later modify the
Subtotals function which may have 1-11.

Please enlighten me. Why would I choose Subtotals 1-11 over a more

direct
method? Am I missing something obvious?

Thanks.

Epinn



Epinn

The important difference between Subtotal 1-11 and Subtotal 101 - 111 is,
that Subtotal 1-11 do not work on rows *hidden by filtering*, while
Subtotal 101 - 111 don't work on *any* hidden row (hidden by filtering OR
hidden manually).
The built-in functions you mention works on all rows, hidden or visible.


--
Best regards
Leo Heuser

Followup to newsgroup only please.








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