Forgot to save a new file
Shut down computer
Opened Excel and hoped to see a file (a la the function in WORD) that was
unnamed that I could open with the data and then save as.

Any ideas - thoughts on places i could look for a tmp. file....would it be
named book1.xls?

Marcosten wrote:
Forgot to save a new file
Shut down computer
Opened Excel and hoped to see a file (a la the function in WORD) that
was unnamed that I could open with the data and then save as.

Any ideas - thoughts on places i could look for a tmp. file....would
it be named book1.xls?


New versions of Excel (I don't remeber, but I think it's from XP...) make a
recover workbook, but just in case of black out or other external causes
that switch off Excel and PC, but I think it's not your case... So, sorry...
Next time remeber to save your work...

--
Hope I helped you.

Thanks in advance for your feedback.

Ciao

Franz Verga from Italy

If your computer crashed there is a recovery file. If you shut down
normally your out of luck. If your fanatical about it you can often find
the data with a low level disk manager like Final Recovery or Disk
Probe. Probably easier to just re-create the file.


Marcosten wrote:

Forgot to save a new file
Shut down computer
Opened Excel and hoped to see a file (a la the function in WORD) that was
unnamed that I could open with the data and then save as.

Any ideas - thoughts on places i could look for a tmp. file....would it be
named book1.xls?

I thought this would be a good segue into what I tuned in to ask.

I am extremely interested in the field of "data recovery". Let me tell you
what I think it is, as the Microsoft Geeks (thank you very much, folks!)
could not understand what I was asking, or I could not explain it well.

When I say data recovery, I mean when there's a fire, a flood, the tapes or
computers are soggy or sooty, and no one took a couple of disks home in their
pocket with names of all their customers, employees, yadda yadda... THEN when
this company wants someone to try and restore/ recover some of the data on
these little teensy circuit boards, or backup tapes; who's he gonna call? I
note that you have mentioned a recovery file, but I don't know how much of a
beating it takes. When I try and research this subject, invariably I'm given
information on how to backup data BEFORE a catastrophe.

In the 1980s - I read this in a paperback true crime book - there was a guy
in Southern California who was trained in a vocational program, so he wasn't
an egghead by any stretch (he was the villain). He worked for a company
called Randomex, I think ultimately as a contractor. Randomex had some
percentage of data they could boast about having recovered, but I don't
recall how much. Then, this fellow goes out on his own and is able to boast
that he can recover 80% of data - free pickup and delivery. He then taught
his wife (who he considered to be less than a genius) and a couple of other
folks. His method was called "The Process". It only took "Q-tips, alcohol,
and a nongreasey soap" - PERIOD. Some hardware had to be run through this
process several times. He became a millionaire quickly.

I'm not a whiz on the computer, although I've played on them since 1994. I
just recently took my old computer apart (mostly) to see if I could clean it
up and get a look at it inside, maybe recover some data. So far I'm hesitant
about touching the box that holds the hard drive.

What I want to know: Can anyone tell me about this process, in that I am
wondering, does someone literally swipe the disk, the hard, main disk, with a
Q-tip? It's not that I want to become a millionaire. I want to know what's
inside that box and is this the treatment, or process, when data is recovered
from corrupted hardware? I don't necessarily want to "KNOW" - just, is it
possible? Probable? That's my question. Thanks in advance; I'll be waiting.

"John" wrote:

If your computer crashed there is a recovery file. If you shut down
normally your out of luck. If your fanatical about it you can often find
the data with a low level disk manager like Final Recovery or Disk
Probe. Probably easier to just re-create the file.


Marcosten wrote:

Forgot to save a new file
Shut down computer
Opened Excel and hoped to see a file (a la the function in WORD) that was
unnamed that I could open with the data and then save as.

Any ideas - thoughts on places i could look for a tmp. file....would it be
named book1.xls?

I haven't heard of a q tip soap and water process. There are companies
that will pull data off a drive that has been severely injured but it is
very expensive. Just do a search on google. I tried one that does it on
line and it worked pretty well with a drive of mine that seemed totally
trashed to me. It isn't just about th cleaning the hardware 9disk), you
also have to have special bit reading software.

In the case you described, however, it sounded like nothing was written
to the drive to recover.

John


fredworks wrote:

I thought this would be a good segue into what I tuned in to ask.

I am extremely interested in the field of "data recovery". Let me tell you
what I think it is, as the Microsoft Geeks (thank you very much, folks!)
could not understand what I was asking, or I could not explain it well.

When I say data recovery, I mean when there's a fire, a flood, the tapes or
computers are soggy or sooty, and no one took a couple of disks home in their
pocket with names of all their customers, employees, yadda yadda... THEN when
this company wants someone to try and restore/ recover some of the data on
these little teensy circuit boards, or backup tapes; who's he gonna call? I
note that you have mentioned a recovery file, but I don't know how much of a
beating it takes. When I try and research this subject, invariably I'm given
information on how to backup data BEFORE a catastrophe.

In the 1980s - I read this in a paperback true crime book - there was a guy
in Southern California who was trained in a vocational program, so he wasn't
an egghead by any stretch (he was the villain). He worked for a company
called Randomex, I think ultimately as a contractor. Randomex had some
percentage of data they could boast about having recovered, but I don't
recall how much. Then, this fellow goes out on his own and is able to boast
that he can recover 80% of data - free pickup and delivery. He then taught
his wife (who he considered to be less than a genius) and a couple of other
folks. His method was called "The Process". It only took "Q-tips, alcohol,
and a nongreasey soap" - PERIOD. Some hardware had to be run through this
process several times. He became a millionaire quickly.

I'm not a whiz on the computer, although I've played on them since 1994. I
just recently took my old computer apart (mostly) to see if I could clean it
up and get a look at it inside, maybe recover some data. So far I'm hesitant
about touching the box that holds the hard drive.

What I want to know: Can anyone tell me about this process, in that I am
wondering, does someone literally swipe the disk, the hard, main disk, with a
Q-tip? It's not that I want to become a millionaire. I want to know what's
inside that box and is this the treatment, or process, when data is recovered
from corrupted hardware? I don't necessarily want to "KNOW" - just, is it
possible? Probable? That's my question. Thanks in advance; I'll be waiting.

"John" wrote:


If your computer crashed there is a recovery file. If you shut down
normally your out of luck. If your fanatical about it you can often find
the data with a low level disk manager like Final Recovery or Disk
Probe. Probably easier to just re-create the file.


Marcosten wrote:


Forgot to save a new file
Shut down computer
Opened Excel and hoped to see a file (a la the function in WORD) that was
unnamed that I could open with the data and then save as.

Any ideas - thoughts on places i could look for a tmp. file....would it be
named book1.xls?

John, can you suggest another place I might ask on this huge message board? I
was considering a general heading in Security, for instance. What do you
think? I appreciate your comments.


"John" wrote:

I haven't heard of a q tip soap and water process. There are companies
that will pull data off a drive that has been severely injured but it is
very expensive. Just do a search on google. I tried one that does it on
line and it worked pretty well with a drive of mine that seemed totally
trashed to me. It isn't just about th cleaning the hardware 9disk), you
also have to have special bit reading software.

In the case you described, however, it sounded like nothing was written
to the drive to recover.

John


fredworks wrote:

I thought this would be a good segue into what I tuned in to ask.

I am extremely interested in the field of "data recovery". Let me tell you
what I think it is, as the Microsoft Geeks (thank you very much, folks!)
could not understand what I was asking, or I could not explain it well.

When I say data recovery, I mean when there's a fire, a flood, the tapes or
computers are soggy or sooty, and no one took a couple of disks home in their
pocket with names of all their customers, employees, yadda yadda... THEN when
this company wants someone to try and restore/ recover some of the data on
these little teensy circuit boards, or backup tapes; who's he gonna call? I
note that you have mentioned a recovery file, but I don't know how much of a
beating it takes. When I try and research this subject, invariably I'm given
information on how to backup data BEFORE a catastrophe.

In the 1980s - I read this in a paperback true crime book - there was a guy
in Southern California who was trained in a vocational program, so he wasn't
an egghead by any stretch (he was the villain). He worked for a company
called Randomex, I think ultimately as a contractor. Randomex had some
percentage of data they could boast about having recovered, but I don't
recall how much. Then, this fellow goes out on his own and is able to boast
that he can recover 80% of data - free pickup and delivery. He then taught
his wife (who he considered to be less than a genius) and a couple of other
folks. His method was called "The Process". It only took "Q-tips, alcohol,
and a nongreasey soap" - PERIOD. Some hardware had to be run through this
process several times. He became a millionaire quickly.

I'm not a whiz on the computer, although I've played on them since 1994. I
just recently took my old computer apart (mostly) to see if I could clean it
up and get a look at it inside, maybe recover some data. So far I'm hesitant
about touching the box that holds the hard drive.

What I want to know: Can anyone tell me about this process, in that I am
wondering, does someone literally swipe the disk, the hard, main disk, with a
Q-tip? It's not that I want to become a millionaire. I want to know what's
inside that box and is this the treatment, or process, when data is recovered
from corrupted hardware? I don't necessarily want to "KNOW" - just, is it
possible? Probable? That's my question. Thanks in advance; I'll be waiting.

"John" wrote:


If your computer crashed there is a recovery file. If you shut down
normally your out of luck. If your fanatical about it you can often find
the data with a low level disk manager like Final Recovery or Disk
Probe. Probably easier to just re-create the file.


Marcosten wrote:


Forgot to save a new file
Shut down computer
Opened Excel and hoped to see a file (a la the function in WORD) that was
unnamed that I could open with the data and then save as.

Any ideas - thoughts on places i could look for a tmp. file....would it be
named book1.xls?

Follow this link to the MS news groups.

http://aumha.org/nntp.htm

WindowsXP security_admin or Windows General would be a better forum.



Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP


On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 20:46:01 -0700, fredworks
wrote:

John, can you suggest another place I might ask on this huge message board? I
was considering a general heading in Security, for instance. What do you
think? I appreciate your comments.


"John" wrote:

I haven't heard of a q tip soap and water process. There are companies
that will pull data off a drive that has been severely injured but it is
very expensive. Just do a search on google. I tried one that does it on
line and it worked pretty well with a drive of mine that seemed totally
trashed to me. It isn't just about th cleaning the hardware 9disk), you
also have to have special bit reading software.

In the case you described, however, it sounded like nothing was written
to the drive to recover.

John


fredworks wrote:

I thought this would be a good segue into what I tuned in to ask.

I am extremely interested in the field of "data recovery". Let me tell you
what I think it is, as the Microsoft Geeks (thank you very much, folks!)
could not understand what I was asking, or I could not explain it well.

When I say data recovery, I mean when there's a fire, a flood, the tapes or
computers are soggy or sooty, and no one took a couple of disks home in their
pocket with names of all their customers, employees, yadda yadda... THEN when
this company wants someone to try and restore/ recover some of the data on
these little teensy circuit boards, or backup tapes; who's he gonna call? I
note that you have mentioned a recovery file, but I don't know how much of a
beating it takes. When I try and research this subject, invariably I'm given
information on how to backup data BEFORE a catastrophe.

In the 1980s - I read this in a paperback true crime book - there was a guy
in Southern California who was trained in a vocational program, so he wasn't
an egghead by any stretch (he was the villain). He worked for a company
called Randomex, I think ultimately as a contractor. Randomex had some
percentage of data they could boast about having recovered, but I don't
recall how much. Then, this fellow goes out on his own and is able to boast
that he can recover 80% of data - free pickup and delivery. He then taught
his wife (who he considered to be less than a genius) and a couple of other
folks. His method was called "The Process". It only took "Q-tips, alcohol,
and a nongreasey soap" - PERIOD. Some hardware had to be run through this
process several times. He became a millionaire quickly.

I'm not a whiz on the computer, although I've played on them since 1994. I
just recently took my old computer apart (mostly) to see if I could clean it
up and get a look at it inside, maybe recover some data. So far I'm hesitant
about touching the box that holds the hard drive.

What I want to know: Can anyone tell me about this process, in that I am
wondering, does someone literally swipe the disk, the hard, main disk, with a
Q-tip? It's not that I want to become a millionaire. I want to know what's
inside that box and is this the treatment, or process, when data is recovered
from corrupted hardware? I don't necessarily want to "KNOW" - just, is it
possible? Probable? That's my question. Thanks in advance; I'll be waiting.

"John" wrote:


If your computer crashed there is a recovery file. If you shut down
normally your out of luck. If your fanatical about it you can often find
the data with a low level disk manager like Final Recovery or Disk
Probe. Probably easier to just re-create the file.


Marcosten wrote:


Forgot to save a new file
Shut down computer
Opened Excel and hoped to see a file (a la the function in WORD) that was
unnamed that I could open with the data and then save as.

Any ideas - thoughts on places i could look for a tmp. file....would it be
named book1.xls?