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Allow EXCEL INDIRECT(ADDRESS()) and INDIRECT(RANGE()) functions
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I propose that a RANGE() function be added that is equivalent to the existing ADDRESS() function or a shorthand equivalent to CONCATENATE(ADDRESS(),":",ADDRESS()). Indirect addressing is useful when dealing with realworld data of variable extent or quality. I further propose that a notation such as ADDRESS({$A$10},{$A$10}) and ADDRESS({{$A$10}}) be allowed as equivalent to ADDRESS(ROW($A$10),COLUMN($A$10)) for additional notation simplification when specifying indirect addresses or address ranges. The second form above would be applicable as part of a variable RANGE() function where one point is fixed. If all points are fixed, then there is no point in using an indirect range or address. Note that using sheet cell references allows these formulas to reflect changes in sheet structure (add/remove columns or rows) as long as those references are at the corners of the intended range and are not deleted by these operations. Thanks.  This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Webbased Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...et.f unctions 
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Answer: Allow EXCEL INDIRECT(ADDRESS()) and INDIRECT(RANGE()) functions
Hello!
Thank you for your suggestion regarding the addition of a RANGE() function in Excel. I completely understand the need for indirect addressing when dealing with variable data, and I agree that it would be a useful addition to the program. In the meantime, there are a couple of workarounds that you can use to achieve similar results. One option is to use the CONCATENATE() function to create a string that represents the range you want to reference. For example, if you want to reference a range from A1 to A10, you could use the formula =INDIRECT(CONCATENATE("A1:A10")). This will create a reference to the range A1:A10 that you can use in other formulas. Another option is to use the ROW() and COLUMN() functions in conjunction with the ADDRESS() function to create a reference to a specific cell. For example, if you want to reference cell A1, you could use the formula =INDIRECT(ADDRESS(1,1)). This will create a reference to cell A1 that you can use in other formulas.
Let me know if you have any other questions or if there's anything else I can assist you with.
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I expect Excel might, one day, catch up with this functionality that Lotus
123 has had for years and years. However, we have to bear in mind that ".. Excel is not a Lotus 123 clone ..".  Andy Wiggins FCCA www.BygSoftware.com Excel, Access and VBA Consultancy  "Mike Barlow" wrote in message ... Hello  I propose that a RANGE() function be added that is equivalent to the existing ADDRESS() function or a shorthand equivalent to CONCATENATE(ADDRESS(),":",ADDRESS()). Indirect addressing is useful when dealing with realworld data of variable extent or quality. I further propose that a notation such as ADDRESS({$A$10},{$A$10}) and ADDRESS({{$A$10}}) be allowed as equivalent to ADDRESS(ROW($A$10),COLUMN($A$10)) for additional notation simplification when specifying indirect addresses or address ranges. The second form above would be applicable as part of a variable RANGE() function where one point is fixed. If all points are fixed, then there is no point in using an indirect range or address. Note that using sheet cell references allows these formulas to reflect changes in sheet structure (add/remove columns or rows) as long as those references are at the corners of the intended range and are not deleted by these operations. Thanks.  This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Webbased Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...et.f unctions 
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"Andy Wiggins" wrote...
I expect Excel might, one day, catch up with this functionality that Lotus 123 has had for years and years. However, we have to bear in mind that "..Excel is not a Lotus 123 clone ..". .... ? I use 123 and Excel equally, so I think I know what each provides. What feature did the OP mention that 123 has? That said, 123's @@("<<"&path&filename&""&rangeref) works just fine on closed workbooks, and @@("<<?"&SomeRangeNameHere) is hugely useful. But @COORD and @REFCONVERT aren't that big a deal. 
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"Mike Barlow" wrote...
I propose that a RANGE() function be added that is equivalent to the existing ADDRESS() function or a shorthand equivalent to CONCATENATE(ADDRESS(),":",ADDRESS()). Indirect addressing is useful when dealing with realworld data of variable extent or quality. How INDIRECT has anything to do with variable data quality is at best unclear. INDIRECT(ADDRESS(u,v)&ADDRESS(x,y)) is always a mistake. There's a way to do this using OFFSET($A$1,u1,v1,xu+1,yv+1). How many wheels must Microsoft reinvent? I further propose that a notation such as ADDRESS({$A$10},{$A$10}) and ADDRESS({{$A$10}}) be allowed as equivalent to ADDRESS(ROW($A$10),COLUMN($A$10)) for additional notation simplification when specifying indirect addresses or address ranges. The second form above would be applicable as part of a variable RANGE() function where one point is fixed. If all points are fixed, then there is no point in using an indirect range or address. And once you learn OFFSET you'll find there's never a need for INDIRECT(ADDRESS(..)). That said, CELL("Address",$A$10) returns the string "$A$10". Again, how many wheels must Microsoft reinvent? 
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Hello
An indirect range could be used inside a MATCH() statement and any other statement that might use a variable range specification. As an example: [M3]=M2+MATCH(TRUE,INDIRECT(CONCATENATE(ADDRESS(M2+1,C OLUMN($L$2)),":",ADDRESS($B$7,COLUMN($L$2)))),0) copied down to create a sequential table of offsets or pointers to rows containing valid data where $B$7 stores the (dataset dependant) last active row number and column $L$* contains the data validity tests. After the last valid (TRUE) row is found, the function returns NA!. M2 points to the first valid row. As far as I can tell, the CELL() function cannot be used to create a dynamic indirect range. My first proposal is to provide a RANGE() function for applications where a variable, datadependent range specification might be required and my second proposal was to allow a shorthand notation for the ROW() and COLUMN() functions in situations where row or column numbers are the required values. My proposal is just that. It is a tribute to EXCEL that such complex functions can be created with the program as it is now. "Harlan Grove" wrote: "Mike Barlow" wrote... I propose that a RANGE() function be added that is equivalent to the existing ADDRESS() function or a shorthand equivalent to CONCATENATE(ADDRESS(),":",ADDRESS()). Indirect addressing is useful when dealing with realworld data of variable extent or quality. How INDIRECT has anything to do with variable data quality is at best unclear. INDIRECT(ADDRESS(u,v)&ADDRESS(x,y)) is always a mistake. There's a way to do this using OFFSET($A$1,u1,v1,xu+1,yv+1). How many wheels must Microsoft reinvent? I further propose that a notation such as ADDRESS({$A$10},{$A$10}) and ADDRESS({{$A$10}}) be allowed as equivalent to ADDRESS(ROW($A$10),COLUMN($A$10)) for additional notation simplification when specifying indirect addresses or address ranges. The second form above would be applicable as part of a variable RANGE() function where one point is fixed. If all points are fixed, then there is no point in using an indirect range or address. And once you learn OFFSET you'll find there's never a need for INDIRECT(ADDRESS(..)). That said, CELL("Address",$A$10) returns the string "$A$10". Again, how many wheels must Microsoft reinvent? 
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"Mike Barlow" wrote...
An indirect range could be used inside a MATCH() statement and any other statement that might use a variable range specification. As an example: [M3]=M2+MATCH(TRUE,INDIRECT(CONCATENATE(ADDRESS(M2+1, COLUMN($L$2)),":",ADDRESS($B$7,COLUMN($L$2)))), 0) .... Again, USE OFFSET! =MATCH(TRUE,OFFSET($A$1,M2,COLUMN($L$2)1,$B$7M2,1),0) INDIRECT(ADDRESS(.)) or INDIRECT(ADDRESS(.)&":"&ADDRESS(.)) is *ALWAYS* a mistake and demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding of how to use Excel efficiently. As far as I can tell, the CELL() function cannot be used to create a dynamic indirect range. . . . So? In your original proposal you had mooted the following. I further propose that a notation such as ADDRESS({$A$10},{$A$10}) and ADDRESS({{$A$10}}) be allowed as equivalent to ADDRESS(ROW($A$10),COLUMN($A$10)) This had nothing whatsoever to do with your proposed RANGE function. I was just pointing out that your proposed ADDRESS({{$A$10}}) is unnecessary since it's already provided by CELL("Address",$A$10) or CELL("Address",A10). Just see what you get from B2 =CELL("Address",C5)&":"&CELL("Address",F10) Now, as for the underlying reasons this (mercifully) won't happen, curly braces are already part of the syntax, used to delimit array constants. While operator, or in this case delimiter, overloading isn't completely out of the question, Microsoft is very unlikely to complicate Excel's formula syntax to that degree. Restricting this just to ADDRESS would require that ADDRESS be parsed specially, apart from other functions. That's almost certainly not going to happen. . . . My first proposal is to provide a RANGE() function for applications where a variable, datadependent range specification might be required and my second proposal was to allow a shorthand notation for the ROW() and COLUMN() functions in situations where row or column numbers are the required values. RANGE is unnecessary because INDIRECT(ADDRESS(.)) is always a mistake. The OFFSET function already exists to provide the functionality you claim to seek. It's obvious you're unfamiliar with it. Your time would be better spent learning how to use it than on pipe dreams for redundant, unnecessary new functionality that wouldn't be likely to make it into Excel for a decade. (Yes, a decade  it took Microsoft almost 10 years from when then Borland introduced colored worksheet tabs in Quattro Pro to make them a feature in Excel 2002. What you're asking for is a heck of a lot harder to implement.) My proposal is just that. It is a tribute to EXCEL that such complex functions can be created with the program as it is now. And a further tribute that there are already functions in Excel that make certain complex formula constructs unnecessary, such as INDIRECT(ADDRESS(.)). That said, some proposals are fine. Others deserve to be shot down in flames. 
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Thanks Harlan
I have been assuming that the OFFSET() function returned a value instead of a potential range reference and I quite glossed over the height and width parameters. I assume from your comments that the INDIRECT([constructed string]) method is rather inefficient for the purpose intended. I thought so too. For my application, the only change required of your formula is to add each previous value (M2 + MATCH(...)) to obtain a vector table referenced to the head to the head of the column. Hopefully this exchange has enlightened others to this application possibility. MLB 
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