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puertoricanninja

pv of annuity
 
what is the right formula to calculate the pv of an annuity w/ reinvested
interest? Ex:
i receive 10,000 cash / month for 7 years;
i invest all cash @ an interest rate of 5% / year;
i reinvest all the interest;
the discount rate is 9%.

i want the pv of the cash received and reinvested interest.

bpeltzer

pv of annuity
 
Use FV to calculate the future value of all the investments and
reinvestments, then divide by (1+9%)^n (where n is the number of years) to
get the PV. (For that last part, you could also use the PV function with 0
payments and FV set to the results from part 1).

"puertoricanninja" wrote:

what is the right formula to calculate the pv of an annuity w/ reinvested
interest? Ex:
i receive 10,000 cash / month for 7 years;
i invest all cash @ an interest rate of 5% / year;
i reinvest all the interest;
the discount rate is 9%.

i want the pv of the cash received and reinvested interest.


puertoricanninja

pv of annuity
 
i have no trouble with the annuity fv and pv, but how do i include the
reinvestments?

"bpeltzer" wrote:

Use FV to calculate the future value of all the investments and
reinvestments, then divide by (1+9%)^n (where n is the number of years) to
get the PV. (For that last part, you could also use the PV function with 0
payments and FV set to the results from part 1).

"puertoricanninja" wrote:

what is the right formula to calculate the pv of an annuity w/ reinvested
interest? Ex:
i receive 10,000 cash / month for 7 years;
i invest all cash @ an interest rate of 5% / year;
i reinvest all the interest;
the discount rate is 9%.

i want the pv of the cash received and reinvested interest.


[email protected]

pv of annuity
 
puertoricanninja wrote:
what is the right formula to calculate the pv of an annuity w/ reinvested
interest?


Of course, there are many "right formulas".

i receive 10,000 cash / month for 7 years;
i invest all cash @ an interest rate of 5% / year;
i reinvest all the interest;
the discount rate is 9%.
i want the pv of the cash received and reinvested interest.


Making some simplifying assumptions [1], the FV of the 10000 investment
at 5% with interest reinvested is:

=fv(5%/12, 7*12, -10000)

The PV of that FV at a discount rate of 9% over 7 years is:

=pv(9%, 7, 0, fv(...))

However, that is not the NPV of the cash flows. I wonder if that is
what you really want. The NPV would be:

=pv(9%/12, 7*12, -10000, fv(...), 1)


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[1] You do not say whether 5% and 9% are nominal rates or effective
rates. If nominal rates, you do not specify the compounding frequency
of the investment. I make the simplifying assumption that 5% is a
nominal rate. I make varying assumptions about 9% depending on what
makes the formulation convenient ;-). The difference in PV under other
assumptions is less than 0.5%. But if this is a homework assignment,
you might need to make adjustments or clarify the problem statement if
you want further help.


bpeltzer

pv of annuity
 
FV already assumes reinvestment of the interest earned. Ex:
=FV(10%,2,-100,,1) returns $231. The initial investment is $100. A year
later you've earned $10 and invested another $100 so you'd have $210. That
amount (including the first year's reinvested interest) earns $21 in the
second year, leaving you with $231. If the FV did not assume reinvestment,
you'd only get $230, losing the year 2 interest on the year 1 earnings.

"puertoricanninja" wrote:

i have no trouble with the annuity fv and pv, but how do i include the
reinvestments?

"bpeltzer" wrote:

Use FV to calculate the future value of all the investments and
reinvestments, then divide by (1+9%)^n (where n is the number of years) to
get the PV. (For that last part, you could also use the PV function with 0
payments and FV set to the results from part 1).

"puertoricanninja" wrote:

what is the right formula to calculate the pv of an annuity w/ reinvested
interest? Ex:
i receive 10,000 cash / month for 7 years;
i invest all cash @ an interest rate of 5% / year;
i reinvest all the interest;
the discount rate is 9%.

i want the pv of the cash received and reinvested interest.



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