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![]() In a user defined function, how do you reference named cells in Excel2007? Mathematically I need to evaluate: fa(x) = 1-tanh( (x-x0)/x1 ) Mathematically, x, x0, and x1 are numbers. In Excel the calling argument x is (the contents of) a cell, like E11, which is a number. x0 and x1 are named cells, each containing a number. i.e., each is a one-cell range I've tried: Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Range(x) - Range(x0)) / Range(x1) ) End Function which doesn't work. The error window highlights Range and says "Compile error: Sub or Function not defined" and Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Cell("contents",x) - Cell("contents",x0) / Cell("contents",x1) ) End Function also doesn't work. Same error with Cell highlighted. Can someone set me straight? I am not well versed in Excel2007. |
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All Worksheetfunctions should be referred as below in VBA
1-Worksheetfunction.Tanh(.... ) If this post helps click Yes --------------- Jacob Skaria "Neal Carron" wrote: In a user defined function, how do you reference named cells in Excel2007? Mathematically I need to evaluate: fa(x) = 1-tanh( (x-x0)/x1 ) Mathematically, x, x0, and x1 are numbers. In Excel the calling argument x is (the contents of) a cell, like E11, which is a number. x0 and x1 are named cells, each containing a number. i.e., each is a one-cell range I've tried: Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Range(x) - Range(x0)) / Range(x1) ) End Function which doesn't work. The error window highlights Range and says "Compile error: Sub or Function not defined" and Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Cell("contents",x) - Cell("contents",x0) / Cell("contents",x1) ) End Function also doesn't work. Same error with Cell highlighted. Can someone set me straight? I am not well versed in Excel2007. |
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Jacob,
Not enough. With your suggestion, there was no error, but the function evaluates to #VALUE! in the cell in which I entered =fa(E12). This occurred when I inserted Worksheetfunction. in front of Tanh and in front of Range or Cell. Any other suggestions? Thanks, - Neal "Jacob Skaria" wrote: All Worksheetfunctions should be referred as below in VBA 1-Worksheetfunction.Tanh(.... ) If this post helps click Yes --------------- Jacob Skaria "Neal Carron" wrote: In a user defined function, how do you reference named cells in Excel2007? Mathematically I need to evaluate: fa(x) = 1-tanh( (x-x0)/x1 ) Mathematically, x, x0, and x1 are numbers. In Excel the calling argument x is (the contents of) a cell, like E11, which is a number. x0 and x1 are named cells, each containing a number. i.e., each is a one-cell range I've tried: Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Range(x) - Range(x0)) / Range(x1) ) End Function which doesn't work. The error window highlights Range and says "Compile error: Sub or Function not defined" and Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Cell("contents",x) - Cell("contents",x0) / Cell("contents",x1) ) End Function also doesn't work. Same error with Cell highlighted. Can someone set me straight? I am not well versed in Excel2007. |
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Dear Neal
Here if x is a number....and others are named ranges.... Function fa(x) As Double fa = 1-WorksheetFunction.Tanh((x - _ Range("myname2")) / Range("myname3")) End Function If this post helps click Yes --------------- Jacob Skaria "Neal Carron" wrote: Jacob, Not enough. With your suggestion, there was no error, but the function evaluates to #VALUE! in the cell in which I entered =fa(E12). This occurred when I inserted Worksheetfunction. in front of Tanh and in front of Range or Cell. Any other suggestions? Thanks, - Neal "Jacob Skaria" wrote: All Worksheetfunctions should be referred as below in VBA 1-Worksheetfunction.Tanh(.... ) If this post helps click Yes --------------- Jacob Skaria "Neal Carron" wrote: In a user defined function, how do you reference named cells in Excel2007? Mathematically I need to evaluate: fa(x) = 1-tanh( (x-x0)/x1 ) Mathematically, x, x0, and x1 are numbers. In Excel the calling argument x is (the contents of) a cell, like E11, which is a number. x0 and x1 are named cells, each containing a number. i.e., each is a one-cell range I've tried: Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Range(x) - Range(x0)) / Range(x1) ) End Function which doesn't work. The error window highlights Range and says "Compile error: Sub or Function not defined" and Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Cell("contents",x) - Cell("contents",x0) / Cell("contents",x1) ) End Function also doesn't work. Same error with Cell highlighted. Can someone set me straight? I am not well versed in Excel2007. |
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On May 28, 12:13*pm, Jacob Skaria
wrote: Dear Neal Here if x is a number....and others are named ranges.... Function fa(x) As Double fa = 1-WorksheetFunction.Tanh((x - _ Range("myname2")) / Range("myname3")) End Function If this post helps click Yes --------------- Jacob Skaria "Neal Carron" wrote: Jacob, * Not enough. *With your suggestion, there was no error, but the function evaluates to *#VALUE! *in the cell in which I entered =fa(E12). This occurred when I inserted Worksheetfunction. in front of Tanh and in front of Range or Cell. * * Any other suggestions? Thanks, *- Neal "Jacob Skaria" wrote: All Worksheetfunctions should be referred as below in VBA 1-Worksheetfunction.Tanh(.... ) If this post helps click Yes --------------- Jacob Skaria "Neal Carron" wrote: In a user defined function, how do you reference named cells in Excel2007? Mathematically I need to evaluate: fa(x) = 1-tanh( (x-x0)/x1 ) Mathematically, x, x0, and x1 are numbers. In Excel the calling argument x is (the contents of) a cell, like E11, which is a number. x0 and x1 are named cells, each containing a number. i.e., each is a one-cell range I've tried: Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Range(x) - Range(x0)) / Range(x1) ) End Function which doesn't work. The error window highlights Range and says "Compile error: Sub or Function not defined" and Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Cell("contents",x) - Cell("contents",x0) / Cell("contents",x1) ) End Function also doesn't work. Same error with Cell highlighted. Can someone set me straight? I am not well versed in Excel2007.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What Jacob said, or alternatively: Function fa(X, X_0, X1) fa = 1 - WorksheetFunction.Tanh((X - X_0) / X_1) End Function which gives more flexibility, at the expense of two extra arguments |
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That will probably work also.
Bernie Deitrick and Jacob Skaria's method works. But I added one more question in my reply to Bernie. - Neal "Dougaj4" wrote: On May 28, 12:13 pm, Jacob Skaria wrote: Dear Neal Here if x is a number....and others are named ranges.... Function fa(x) As Double fa = 1-WorksheetFunction.Tanh((x - _ Range("myname2")) / Range("myname3")) End Function If this post helps click Yes --------------- Jacob Skaria "Neal Carron" wrote: Jacob, Not enough. With your suggestion, there was no error, but the function evaluates to #VALUE! in the cell in which I entered =fa(E12). This occurred when I inserted Worksheetfunction. in front of Tanh and in front of Range or Cell. Any other suggestions? Thanks, - Neal "Jacob Skaria" wrote: All Worksheetfunctions should be referred as below in VBA 1-Worksheetfunction.Tanh(.... ) If this post helps click Yes --------------- Jacob Skaria "Neal Carron" wrote: In a user defined function, how do you reference named cells in Excel2007? Mathematically I need to evaluate: fa(x) = 1-tanh( (x-x0)/x1 ) Mathematically, x, x0, and x1 are numbers. In Excel the calling argument x is (the contents of) a cell, like E11, which is a number. x0 and x1 are named cells, each containing a number. i.e., each is a one-cell range I've tried: Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Range(x) - Range(x0)) / Range(x1) ) End Function which doesn't work. The error window highlights Range and says "Compile error: Sub or Function not defined" and Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Cell("contents",x) - Cell("contents",x0) / Cell("contents",x1) ) End Function also doesn't work. Same error with Cell highlighted. Can someone set me straight? I am not well versed in Excel2007.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What Jacob said, or alternatively: Function fa(X, X_0, X1) fa = 1 - WorksheetFunction.Tanh((X - X_0) / X_1) End Function which gives more flexibility, at the expense of two extra arguments |
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![]() The problem is not passing the value x to the UDF but rather that there is no built-in function for Tanh. Cordially, Chip Pearson Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Excel Product Group, 1998 - 2009 Pearson Software Consulting, LLC www.cpearson.com (email on web site) On Wed, 27 May 2009 11:52:01 -0700, Neal Carron wrote: In a user defined function, how do you reference named cells in Excel2007? Mathematically I need to evaluate: fa(x) = 1-tanh( (x-x0)/x1 ) Mathematically, x, x0, and x1 are numbers. In Excel the calling argument x is (the contents of) a cell, like E11, which is a number. x0 and x1 are named cells, each containing a number. i.e., each is a one-cell range I've tried: Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Range(x) - Range(x0)) / Range(x1) ) End Function which doesn't work. The error window highlights Range and says "Compile error: Sub or Function not defined" and Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Cell("contents",x) - Cell("contents",x0) / Cell("contents",x1) ) End Function also doesn't work. Same error with Cell highlighted. Can someone set me straight? I am not well versed in Excel2007. |
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Chip,
Help (F1) defines Tanh in the usual way, so it appears there is such a built-in function. - Neal "Chip Pearson" wrote: The problem is not passing the value x to the UDF but rather that there is no built-in function for Tanh. Cordially, Chip Pearson Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Excel Product Group, 1998 - 2009 Pearson Software Consulting, LLC www.cpearson.com (email on web site) On Wed, 27 May 2009 11:52:01 -0700, Neal Carron wrote: In a user defined function, how do you reference named cells in Excel2007? Mathematically I need to evaluate: fa(x) = 1-tanh( (x-x0)/x1 ) Mathematically, x, x0, and x1 are numbers. In Excel the calling argument x is (the contents of) a cell, like E11, which is a number. x0 and x1 are named cells, each containing a number. i.e., each is a one-cell range I've tried: Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Range(x) - Range(x0)) / Range(x1) ) End Function which doesn't work. The error window highlights Range and says "Compile error: Sub or Function not defined" and Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Cell("contents",x) - Cell("contents",x0) / Cell("contents",x1) ) End Function also doesn't work. Same error with Cell highlighted. Can someone set me straight? I am not well versed in Excel2007. |
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Neal,
Try this. Note that X1 will not be a valid range name, since it is a cell address. So, name the cells NamedRangeX0 and NamedRangeX1. Function fa(x) As Double fa = 1 - Application.WorksheetFunction.Tanh _ ((x - Range("NamedRangeX0")) / Range("NamedRangeX1")) End Function HTH, Bernie MS Excel MVP "Neal Carron" wrote in message ... In a user defined function, how do you reference named cells in Excel2007? Mathematically I need to evaluate: fa(x) = 1-tanh( (x-x0)/x1 ) Mathematically, x, x0, and x1 are numbers. In Excel the calling argument x is (the contents of) a cell, like E11, which is a number. x0 and x1 are named cells, each containing a number. i.e., each is a one-cell range I've tried: Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Range(x) - Range(x0)) / Range(x1) ) End Function which doesn't work. The error window highlights Range and says "Compile error: Sub or Function not defined" and Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Cell("contents",x) - Cell("contents",x0) / Cell("contents",x1) ) End Function also doesn't work. Same error with Cell highlighted. Can someone set me straight? I am not well versed in Excel2007. |
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Bernie,
Thanks, that worked. Now the problem is this: I've put =fa($E12) in, say, cell F12. It evaluates nicely. Then I change the value in NamedRangeX0. But the value in F12 does not change. the function does not update automatically. Automatic update is turned on. Note that if cell F12 contained, say, =Sin(NamedRangeX0), it updates immediately. What am I doing wrong? "Bernie Deitrick" wrote: Neal, Try this. Note that X1 will not be a valid range name, since it is a cell address. So, name the cells NamedRangeX0 and NamedRangeX1. Function fa(x) As Double fa = 1 - Application.WorksheetFunction.Tanh _ ((x - Range("NamedRangeX0")) / Range("NamedRangeX1")) End Function HTH, Bernie MS Excel MVP "Neal Carron" wrote in message ... In a user defined function, how do you reference named cells in Excel2007? Mathematically I need to evaluate: fa(x) = 1-tanh( (x-x0)/x1 ) Mathematically, x, x0, and x1 are numbers. In Excel the calling argument x is (the contents of) a cell, like E11, which is a number. x0 and x1 are named cells, each containing a number. i.e., each is a one-cell range I've tried: Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Range(x) - Range(x0)) / Range(x1) ) End Function which doesn't work. The error window highlights Range and says "Compile error: Sub or Function not defined" and Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Cell("contents",x) - Cell("contents",x0) / Cell("contents",x1) ) End Function also doesn't work. Same error with Cell highlighted. Can someone set me straight? I am not well versed in Excel2007. |
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Neal,
Excel dependency tree does not include cells called from within UDFs, so Excel is unaware of the call to NamedRangeX0 and NamedRangeX1. You could change the UDF to take three arguments Function fa(x,y,z) As Double fa = 1 - Application.WorksheetFunction.Tanh((x - y) / z) End Function and then call it like =fa($E12,NamedRangeX0,NamedRangeX1) HTH, Bernie MS Excel MVP "Neal Carron" wrote in message ... Bernie, Thanks, that worked. Now the problem is this: I've put =fa($E12) in, say, cell F12. It evaluates nicely. Then I change the value in NamedRangeX0. But the value in F12 does not change. the function does not update automatically. Automatic update is turned on. Note that if cell F12 contained, say, =Sin(NamedRangeX0), it updates immediately. What am I doing wrong? "Bernie Deitrick" wrote: Neal, Try this. Note that X1 will not be a valid range name, since it is a cell address. So, name the cells NamedRangeX0 and NamedRangeX1. Function fa(x) As Double fa = 1 - Application.WorksheetFunction.Tanh _ ((x - Range("NamedRangeX0")) / Range("NamedRangeX1")) End Function HTH, Bernie MS Excel MVP "Neal Carron" wrote in message ... In a user defined function, how do you reference named cells in Excel2007? Mathematically I need to evaluate: fa(x) = 1-tanh( (x-x0)/x1 ) Mathematically, x, x0, and x1 are numbers. In Excel the calling argument x is (the contents of) a cell, like E11, which is a number. x0 and x1 are named cells, each containing a number. i.e., each is a one-cell range I've tried: Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Range(x) - Range(x0)) / Range(x1) ) End Function which doesn't work. The error window highlights Range and says "Compile error: Sub or Function not defined" and Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Cell("contents",x) - Cell("contents",x0) / Cell("contents",x1) ) End Function also doesn't work. Same error with Cell highlighted. Can someone set me straight? I am not well versed in Excel2007. |
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Bernie,
OK, thanks. That works fine. This is the first I've heard of a function that doesn't accept parameters and automatically update them. Having to put all parameters as arguments seems to partially defeat the usefulness of a UDF. I would ask "Why does Excel do it that way", but the answer is probably "That's the way it is". Is there another way around it? For example, can a parameter (like a named cell) be declared, say, as "Global" so a subroutine or function will accept its latest value? Or is there some other way? Thanks, Neal "Bernie Deitrick" wrote: Neal, Excel dependency tree does not include cells called from within UDFs, so Excel is unaware of the call to NamedRangeX0 and NamedRangeX1. You could change the UDF to take three arguments Function fa(x,y,z) As Double fa = 1 - Application.WorksheetFunction.Tanh((x - y) / z) End Function and then call it like =fa($E12,NamedRangeX0,NamedRangeX1) HTH, Bernie MS Excel MVP "Neal Carron" wrote in message ... Bernie, Thanks, that worked. Now the problem is this: I've put =fa($E12) in, say, cell F12. It evaluates nicely. Then I change the value in NamedRangeX0. But the value in F12 does not change. the function does not update automatically. Automatic update is turned on. Note that if cell F12 contained, say, =Sin(NamedRangeX0), it updates immediately. What am I doing wrong? "Bernie Deitrick" wrote: Neal, Try this. Note that X1 will not be a valid range name, since it is a cell address. So, name the cells NamedRangeX0 and NamedRangeX1. Function fa(x) As Double fa = 1 - Application.WorksheetFunction.Tanh _ ((x - Range("NamedRangeX0")) / Range("NamedRangeX1")) End Function HTH, Bernie MS Excel MVP "Neal Carron" wrote in message ... In a user defined function, how do you reference named cells in Excel2007? Mathematically I need to evaluate: fa(x) = 1-tanh( (x-x0)/x1 ) Mathematically, x, x0, and x1 are numbers. In Excel the calling argument x is (the contents of) a cell, like E11, which is a number. x0 and x1 are named cells, each containing a number. i.e., each is a one-cell range I've tried: Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Range(x) - Range(x0)) / Range(x1) ) End Function which doesn't work. The error window highlights Range and says "Compile error: Sub or Function not defined" and Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Cell("contents",x) - Cell("contents",x0) / Cell("contents",x1) ) End Function also doesn't work. Same error with Cell highlighted. Can someone set me straight? I am not well versed in Excel2007. |
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Neal,
You can force a recalc of a UDF by 'marrying' it to a volatile function. A silly example =IF(NOW()1,YourUDF(x)) NOW() will always be 1, so it will always evaluate as TRUE, and your UDF will be evaluated. You could also use =(NOW()<1)*YourUDF(x) if your UDF returns a number. HTH, Bernie MS Excel MVP "Neal Carron" wrote in message ... Bernie, OK, thanks. That works fine. This is the first I've heard of a function that doesn't accept parameters and automatically update them. Having to put all parameters as arguments seems to partially defeat the usefulness of a UDF. I would ask "Why does Excel do it that way", but the answer is probably "That's the way it is". Is there another way around it? For example, can a parameter (like a named cell) be declared, say, as "Global" so a subroutine or function will accept its latest value? Or is there some other way? Thanks, Neal "Bernie Deitrick" wrote: Neal, Excel dependency tree does not include cells called from within UDFs, so Excel is unaware of the call to NamedRangeX0 and NamedRangeX1. You could change the UDF to take three arguments Function fa(x,y,z) As Double fa = 1 - Application.WorksheetFunction.Tanh((x - y) / z) End Function and then call it like =fa($E12,NamedRangeX0,NamedRangeX1) HTH, Bernie MS Excel MVP "Neal Carron" wrote in message ... Bernie, Thanks, that worked. Now the problem is this: I've put =fa($E12) in, say, cell F12. It evaluates nicely. Then I change the value in NamedRangeX0. But the value in F12 does not change. the function does not update automatically. Automatic update is turned on. Note that if cell F12 contained, say, =Sin(NamedRangeX0), it updates immediately. What am I doing wrong? "Bernie Deitrick" wrote: Neal, Try this. Note that X1 will not be a valid range name, since it is a cell address. So, name the cells NamedRangeX0 and NamedRangeX1. Function fa(x) As Double fa = 1 - Application.WorksheetFunction.Tanh _ ((x - Range("NamedRangeX0")) / Range("NamedRangeX1")) End Function HTH, Bernie MS Excel MVP "Neal Carron" wrote in message ... In a user defined function, how do you reference named cells in Excel2007? Mathematically I need to evaluate: fa(x) = 1-tanh( (x-x0)/x1 ) Mathematically, x, x0, and x1 are numbers. In Excel the calling argument x is (the contents of) a cell, like E11, which is a number. x0 and x1 are named cells, each containing a number. i.e., each is a one-cell range I've tried: Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Range(x) - Range(x0)) / Range(x1) ) End Function which doesn't work. The error window highlights Range and says "Compile error: Sub or Function not defined" and Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Cell("contents",x) - Cell("contents",x0) / Cell("contents",x1) ) End Function also doesn't work. Same error with Cell highlighted. Can someone set me straight? I am not well versed in Excel2007. |
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Hi Neal,
<This is the first I've heard of a function that doesn't accept parameters and automatically update them. Well, I never heard of a function that reacts to items that are NOT in the argument list. The whole idea of a function is that its outside world is defined by its arguments. There is nothing else that can influence the outcome of the function. Of course I know that we sometimes make exceptions, like internal tables with constants. Nevertheless, formally, a function is completely defined by its arguments and a description of how it processes them to a defined result, which then takes the place of its call. Any other form is more likely to be a subroutine, not a function. Well, that's my opinion; I'm curious what others might think about this. -- Kind regards, Niek Otten Microsoft MVP - Excel "Neal Carron" wrote in message ... Bernie, OK, thanks. That works fine. This is the first I've heard of a function that doesn't accept parameters and automatically update them. Having to put all parameters as arguments seems to partially defeat the usefulness of a UDF. I would ask "Why does Excel do it that way", but the answer is probably "That's the way it is". Is there another way around it? For example, can a parameter (like a named cell) be declared, say, as "Global" so a subroutine or function will accept its latest value? Or is there some other way? Thanks, Neal "Bernie Deitrick" wrote: Neal, Excel dependency tree does not include cells called from within UDFs, so Excel is unaware of the call to NamedRangeX0 and NamedRangeX1. You could change the UDF to take three arguments Function fa(x,y,z) As Double fa = 1 - Application.WorksheetFunction.Tanh((x - y) / z) End Function and then call it like =fa($E12,NamedRangeX0,NamedRangeX1) HTH, Bernie MS Excel MVP "Neal Carron" wrote in message ... Bernie, Thanks, that worked. Now the problem is this: I've put =fa($E12) in, say, cell F12. It evaluates nicely. Then I change the value in NamedRangeX0. But the value in F12 does not change. the function does not update automatically. Automatic update is turned on. Note that if cell F12 contained, say, =Sin(NamedRangeX0), it updates immediately. What am I doing wrong? "Bernie Deitrick" wrote: Neal, Try this. Note that X1 will not be a valid range name, since it is a cell address. So, name the cells NamedRangeX0 and NamedRangeX1. Function fa(x) As Double fa = 1 - Application.WorksheetFunction.Tanh _ ((x - Range("NamedRangeX0")) / Range("NamedRangeX1")) End Function HTH, Bernie MS Excel MVP "Neal Carron" wrote in message ... In a user defined function, how do you reference named cells in Excel2007? Mathematically I need to evaluate: fa(x) = 1-tanh( (x-x0)/x1 ) Mathematically, x, x0, and x1 are numbers. In Excel the calling argument x is (the contents of) a cell, like E11, which is a number. x0 and x1 are named cells, each containing a number. i.e., each is a one-cell range I've tried: Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Range(x) - Range(x0)) / Range(x1) ) End Function which doesn't work. The error window highlights Range and says "Compile error: Sub or Function not defined" and Function fa(x) fa = 1-Tanh( (Cell("contents",x) - Cell("contents",x0) / Cell("contents",x1) ) End Function also doesn't work. Same error with Cell highlighted. Can someone set me straight? I am not well versed in Excel2007. |
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