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2007: Close to giving up !!!
I've tried installing Excel 2007, but must admit I'm close to giving up !!!
How can anything in this world be so solw and clombersome ?!? And, also I'm finding myself spending 90% of my time looking for, what I think is seemingly simple stuff! Like, right now: - Where to find the dialog for inserting and deleting names??? - Where to find the dialog for hiding and showing sheets??? There simply no logic in this Office package!!! Why, oh why, haven't Microsoft let the user decide if he wants ribbons or menus?!? Why, oh why, are we forced to use what some smartass focus/developer group suddenly think is the coolest thing since sliced bread!? Can someone, PLEASE, help me?!? TIA, CE |
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2007: Close to giving up !!!
For inserting Names Ctrl +F3 Should still work,
ALT+SHIFT+RIGHT ARROW Groups rows or columns. ALT+SHIFT+LEFT ARROW Ungroups rows or columns. CTRL+8 Displays or hides the outline symbols. CTRL+9 Hides the selected rows. CTRL+SHIFT+( (opening parenthesis) Unhides any hidden rows within the selection. CTRL+0 (zero) Hides the selected columns. CTRL+SHIFT+) (closing parenthesis) Unhides any hidden columns within the selection. "Charlotte E" wrote: I've tried installing Excel 2007, but must admit I'm close to giving up !!! How can anything in this world be so solw and clombersome ?!? And, also I'm finding myself spending 90% of my time looking for, what I think is seemingly simple stuff! Like, right now: - Where to find the dialog for inserting and deleting names??? - Where to find the dialog for hiding and showing sheets??? There simply no logic in this Office package!!! Why, oh why, haven't Microsoft let the user decide if he wants ribbons or menus?!? Why, oh why, are we forced to use what some smartass focus/developer group suddenly think is the coolest thing since sliced bread!? Can someone, PLEASE, help me?!? TIA, CE |
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Charlotte,
I installed vista & office 2007 and like you, got very frustrated with it very quickly. I did give up & went back to XP & 2003. I am sure the latest products have their good points but for me, XP & 2003 work just fine! -- jb "Charlotte E" wrote: I've tried installing Excel 2007, but must admit I'm close to giving up !!! How can anything in this world be so solw and clombersome ?!? And, also I'm finding myself spending 90% of my time looking for, what I think is seemingly simple stuff! Like, right now: - Where to find the dialog for inserting and deleting names??? - Where to find the dialog for hiding and showing sheets??? There simply no logic in this Office package!!! Why, oh why, haven't Microsoft let the user decide if he wants ribbons or menus?!? Why, oh why, are we forced to use what some smartass focus/developer group suddenly think is the coolest thing since sliced bread!? Can someone, PLEASE, help me?!? TIA, CE |
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I have to admit Excel 2007 menubar is badly laid out, there are add on's out there that give you the 2003 menubar layout back, however if you want to forge ahead check this out as it will give you where the menu's used to be and where they are now! http://tinyurl.com/5msgkk -- Simon Lloyd Regards, Simon Lloyd 'The Code Cage' (http://www.thecodecage.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Simon Lloyd's Profile: http://www.thecodecage.com/forumz/member.php?userid=1 View this thread: http://www.thecodecage.com/forumz/sh...ad.php?t=39292 |
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Thanks, but I didn't ask for the hotkeys to those functions - they are the
same as in XL2003 :-) (Besides, you didn't provide the way to hide/unhide sheets, as I asked for :-) I want to be able to find them, point them out and execute them with the mouse, just as I was able to do in XL2003! New Years resolution: If XL2007 doesn't show its "incredible ease of use", "outstanding userfriendlyness" and "powerful features" before 31.12.2008, I'll reinstall XL2003 by 01.01.2009 - NO MATTER the hang overs! CE "Office_Novice" wrote in message ... For inserting Names Ctrl +F3 Should still work, ALT+SHIFT+RIGHT ARROW Groups rows or columns. ALT+SHIFT+LEFT ARROW Ungroups rows or columns. CTRL+8 Displays or hides the outline symbols. CTRL+9 Hides the selected rows. CTRL+SHIFT+( (opening parenthesis) Unhides any hidden rows within the selection. CTRL+0 (zero) Hides the selected columns. CTRL+SHIFT+) (closing parenthesis) Unhides any hidden columns within the selection. "Charlotte E" wrote: I've tried installing Excel 2007, but must admit I'm close to giving up !!! How can anything in this world be so solw and clombersome ?!? And, also I'm finding myself spending 90% of my time looking for, what I think is seemingly simple stuff! Like, right now: - Where to find the dialog for inserting and deleting names??? - Where to find the dialog for hiding and showing sheets??? There simply no logic in this Office package!!! Why, oh why, haven't Microsoft let the user decide if he wants ribbons or menus?!? Why, oh why, are we forced to use what some smartass focus/developer group suddenly think is the coolest thing since sliced bread!? Can someone, PLEASE, help me?!? TIA, CE |
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Right click on a sheet tab and you see a hide/unhide option
See also http://www.rondebruin.nl/0307commands.htm -- Regards Ron de Bruin http://www.rondebruin.nl/tips.htm "Charlotte E" <@ wrote in message ... Thanks, but I didn't ask for the hotkeys to those functions - they are the same as in XL2003 :-) (Besides, you didn't provide the way to hide/unhide sheets, as I asked for :-) I want to be able to find them, point them out and execute them with the mouse, just as I was able to do in XL2003! New Years resolution: If XL2007 doesn't show its "incredible ease of use", "outstanding userfriendlyness" and "powerful features" before 31.12.2008, I'll reinstall XL2003 by 01.01.2009 - NO MATTER the hang overs! CE "Office_Novice" wrote in message ... For inserting Names Ctrl +F3 Should still work, ALT+SHIFT+RIGHT ARROW Groups rows or columns. ALT+SHIFT+LEFT ARROW Ungroups rows or columns. CTRL+8 Displays or hides the outline symbols. CTRL+9 Hides the selected rows. CTRL+SHIFT+( (opening parenthesis) Unhides any hidden rows within the selection. CTRL+0 (zero) Hides the selected columns. CTRL+SHIFT+) (closing parenthesis) Unhides any hidden columns within the selection. "Charlotte E" wrote: I've tried installing Excel 2007, but must admit I'm close to giving up !!! How can anything in this world be so solw and clombersome ?!? And, also I'm finding myself spending 90% of my time looking for, what I think is seemingly simple stuff! Like, right now: - Where to find the dialog for inserting and deleting names??? - Where to find the dialog for hiding and showing sheets??? There simply no logic in this Office package!!! Why, oh why, haven't Microsoft let the user decide if he wants ribbons or menus?!? Why, oh why, are we forced to use what some smartass focus/developer group suddenly think is the coolest thing since sliced bread!? Can someone, PLEASE, help me?!? TIA, CE |
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Right click on a sheet tab and you see a hide/unhide option Thanks, Ron - great idea: Make brand new Ribbons, and remove tasks from them, so the user is even more left out in the dark! MAN! If only Linux had Excel :-) CE See also http://www.rondebruin.nl/0307commands.htm "Charlotte E" <@ wrote in message ... Thanks, but I didn't ask for the hotkeys to those functions - they are the same as in XL2003 :-) (Besides, you didn't provide the way to hide/unhide sheets, as I asked for :-) I want to be able to find them, point them out and execute them with the mouse, just as I was able to do in XL2003! New Years resolution: If XL2007 doesn't show its "incredible ease of use", "outstanding userfriendlyness" and "powerful features" before 31.12.2008, I'll reinstall XL2003 by 01.01.2009 - NO MATTER the hang overs! CE "Office_Novice" wrote in message ... For inserting Names Ctrl +F3 Should still work, ALT+SHIFT+RIGHT ARROW Groups rows or columns. ALT+SHIFT+LEFT ARROW Ungroups rows or columns. CTRL+8 Displays or hides the outline symbols. CTRL+9 Hides the selected rows. CTRL+SHIFT+( (opening parenthesis) Unhides any hidden rows within the selection. CTRL+0 (zero) Hides the selected columns. CTRL+SHIFT+) (closing parenthesis) Unhides any hidden columns within the selection. "Charlotte E" wrote: I've tried installing Excel 2007, but must admit I'm close to giving up !!! How can anything in this world be so solw and clombersome ?!? And, also I'm finding myself spending 90% of my time looking for, what I think is seemingly simple stuff! Like, right now: - Where to find the dialog for inserting and deleting names??? - Where to find the dialog for hiding and showing sheets??? There simply no logic in this Office package!!! Why, oh why, haven't Microsoft let the user decide if he wants ribbons or menus?!? Why, oh why, are we forced to use what some smartass focus/developer group suddenly think is the coolest thing since sliced bread!? Can someone, PLEASE, help me?!? TIA, CE |
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You can also find it in the Ribbon
Home tab Cells goup Format Hide/unhide -- Regards Ron de Bruin http://www.rondebruin.nl/tips.htm "Charlotte E" <@ wrote in message ... Right click on a sheet tab and you see a hide/unhide option Thanks, Ron - great idea: Make brand new Ribbons, and remove tasks from them, so the user is even more left out in the dark! MAN! If only Linux had Excel :-) CE See also http://www.rondebruin.nl/0307commands.htm "Charlotte E" <@ wrote in message ... Thanks, but I didn't ask for the hotkeys to those functions - they are the same as in XL2003 :-) (Besides, you didn't provide the way to hide/unhide sheets, as I asked for :-) I want to be able to find them, point them out and execute them with the mouse, just as I was able to do in XL2003! New Years resolution: If XL2007 doesn't show its "incredible ease of use", "outstanding userfriendlyness" and "powerful features" before 31.12.2008, I'll reinstall XL2003 by 01.01.2009 - NO MATTER the hang overs! CE "Office_Novice" wrote in message ... For inserting Names Ctrl +F3 Should still work, ALT+SHIFT+RIGHT ARROW Groups rows or columns. ALT+SHIFT+LEFT ARROW Ungroups rows or columns. CTRL+8 Displays or hides the outline symbols. CTRL+9 Hides the selected rows. CTRL+SHIFT+( (opening parenthesis) Unhides any hidden rows within the selection. CTRL+0 (zero) Hides the selected columns. CTRL+SHIFT+) (closing parenthesis) Unhides any hidden columns within the selection. "Charlotte E" wrote: I've tried installing Excel 2007, but must admit I'm close to giving up !!! How can anything in this world be so solw and clombersome ?!? And, also I'm finding myself spending 90% of my time looking for, what I think is seemingly simple stuff! Like, right now: - Where to find the dialog for inserting and deleting names??? - Where to find the dialog for hiding and showing sheets??? There simply no logic in this Office package!!! Why, oh why, haven't Microsoft let the user decide if he wants ribbons or menus?!? Why, oh why, are we forced to use what some smartass focus/developer group suddenly think is the coolest thing since sliced bread!? Can someone, PLEASE, help me?!? TIA, CE |
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office 2007 does suck. if you want to make a document look pretty, or need more
the 65K rows and 256 columns, it's fine. but for people proficient in office 2003, especially those that write code in excel, excel 2007 is a pain in the ass, and slow as hell, too. -- Gary "Charlotte E" <@ wrote in message ... Thanks, but I didn't ask for the hotkeys to those functions - they are the same as in XL2003 :-) (Besides, you didn't provide the way to hide/unhide sheets, as I asked for :-) I want to be able to find them, point them out and execute them with the mouse, just as I was able to do in XL2003! New Years resolution: If XL2007 doesn't show its "incredible ease of use", "outstanding userfriendlyness" and "powerful features" before 31.12.2008, I'll reinstall XL2003 by 01.01.2009 - NO MATTER the hang overs! CE "Office_Novice" wrote in message ... For inserting Names Ctrl +F3 Should still work, ALT+SHIFT+RIGHT ARROW Groups rows or columns. ALT+SHIFT+LEFT ARROW Ungroups rows or columns. CTRL+8 Displays or hides the outline symbols. CTRL+9 Hides the selected rows. CTRL+SHIFT+( (opening parenthesis) Unhides any hidden rows within the selection. CTRL+0 (zero) Hides the selected columns. CTRL+SHIFT+) (closing parenthesis) Unhides any hidden columns within the selection. "Charlotte E" wrote: I've tried installing Excel 2007, but must admit I'm close to giving up !!! How can anything in this world be so solw and clombersome ?!? And, also I'm finding myself spending 90% of my time looking for, what I think is seemingly simple stuff! Like, right now: - Where to find the dialog for inserting and deleting names??? - Where to find the dialog for hiding and showing sheets??? There simply no logic in this Office package!!! Why, oh why, haven't Microsoft let the user decide if he wants ribbons or menus?!? Why, oh why, are we forced to use what some smartass focus/developer group suddenly think is the coolest thing since sliced bread!? Can someone, PLEASE, help me?!? TIA, CE |
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office 2007 does suck. if you want to make a document look pretty, or
need more the 65K rows and 256 columns, it's fine. but for people proficient in office 2003, especially those that write code in excel, excel 2007 is a pain in the ass, and slow as hell, too. Totally agree!!! And, I'm REALLY surprised about the speed - or the the lack of! If you ask me, Microsoft has been more concerned about JUST PUTTING OUT SOMETHING NEW (to please the shareholders? :-), than concerened about the end-user and their needs... And fine that they try something new, but couldn't Microsoft at least give the users a choice?!? Oh, and of cause, not make applications that suddenly slows down the work!!! Well, I stick by my word: I'll give it 5-6 weeks, but curretly it looks like I'm going back to XL2003... CE "Charlotte E" <@ wrote in message ... Thanks, but I didn't ask for the hotkeys to those functions - they are the same as in XL2003 :-) (Besides, you didn't provide the way to hide/unhide sheets, as I asked for :-) I want to be able to find them, point them out and execute them with the mouse, just as I was able to do in XL2003! New Years resolution: If XL2007 doesn't show its "incredible ease of use", "outstanding userfriendlyness" and "powerful features" before 31.12.2008, I'll reinstall XL2003 by 01.01.2009 - NO MATTER the hang overs! CE "Office_Novice" wrote in message ... For inserting Names Ctrl +F3 Should still work, ALT+SHIFT+RIGHT ARROW Groups rows or columns. ALT+SHIFT+LEFT ARROW Ungroups rows or columns. CTRL+8 Displays or hides the outline symbols. CTRL+9 Hides the selected rows. CTRL+SHIFT+( (opening parenthesis) Unhides any hidden rows within the selection. CTRL+0 (zero) Hides the selected columns. CTRL+SHIFT+) (closing parenthesis) Unhides any hidden columns within the selection. "Charlotte E" wrote: I've tried installing Excel 2007, but must admit I'm close to giving up !!! How can anything in this world be so solw and clombersome ?!? And, also I'm finding myself spending 90% of my time looking for, what I think is seemingly simple stuff! Like, right now: - Where to find the dialog for inserting and deleting names??? - Where to find the dialog for hiding and showing sheets??? There simply no logic in this Office package!!! Why, oh why, haven't Microsoft let the user decide if he wants ribbons or menus?!? Why, oh why, are we forced to use what some smartass focus/developer group suddenly think is the coolest thing since sliced bread!? Can someone, PLEASE, help me?!? TIA, CE |
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Charlotte,
I've had a lot of headaches getting used to almost every change here. But I have to admit that eventually, you'll see the logic in the layout, but it might take a while. Here are some things I've come to realize that may help ease the transition: 1. Most things that were in the Tools menu are found under the Office Button in Excel Options. 2. Most things that were found in the Control/Forms Toolbox are under the Developer tab, which is hidden be default. You make it visible by changing one of the checkboxes within Excel OptionsPopular. 3. Many common tasks that relate to a worksheet can be found by right-click on the sheet's tab itself (such as hiding/unhiding worksheets). 4. If you aren't finding the option you know should be there somewhere, such as setting a chart type as your default chart, don't forget to click the little tiny box-with-arrow at the bottom corner of some of the grouped ribbon menu items. 5. The Name Manager (if you do a lot of range naming) is in the formulas tab, and will become your new best friend, I'm totally serious because it's far better than the old name manager. Besides, it's more logical that naming a range relates to creating formulas, than it relates to inserting (2003's location). Things are better in 2007, but it does take a while to see it. What you should see right away, is that your files are about half the size they used to be. Also, I don't know if this was just my problem or not, but I'm used to automatic calculations, and I think 2007 has calculations set to Manual by default (for a long time I couldn't figure out why my conditional formatting wouldn't act right). And I think we all know what would happen if MS had created an option for users to choose the 2003 menu bar over the ribbon. ;) "Charlotte E" wrote: I've tried installing Excel 2007, but must admit I'm close to giving up !!! How can anything in this world be so solw and clombersome ?!? And, also I'm finding myself spending 90% of my time looking for, what I think is seemingly simple stuff! Like, right now: - Where to find the dialog for inserting and deleting names??? - Where to find the dialog for hiding and showing sheets??? There simply no logic in this Office package!!! Why, oh why, haven't Microsoft let the user decide if he wants ribbons or menus?!? Why, oh why, are we forced to use what some smartass focus/developer group suddenly think is the coolest thing since sliced bread!? Can someone, PLEASE, help me?!? TIA, CE |
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And I think we all know what would happen if MS had created an
option for users to choose the 2003 menu bar over the ribbon. ;) Nothing! Since people wouldn't know what to complain about, if they didn't know about ribbons :-) Anyway, thanks for the input... |
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http://www.EXCELGAARD.dk/Lib/2003-2007/
Charlotte E wrote: I've tried installing Excel 2007, but must admit I'm close to giving up !!! How can anything in this world be so solw and clombersome ?!? And, also I'm finding myself spending 90% of my time looking for, what I think is seemingly simple stuff! Like, right now: - Where to find the dialog for inserting and deleting names??? - Where to find the dialog for hiding and showing sheets??? There simply no logic in this Office package!!! Why, oh why, haven't Microsoft let the user decide if he wants ribbons or menus?!? Why, oh why, are we forced to use what some smartass focus/developer group suddenly think is the coolest thing since sliced bread!? Can someone, PLEASE, help me?!? TIA, CE |
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2007: Close to giving up !!!
I provided a link in this post http://www.thecodecage.com/forumz/141627-post4.html to the menubar and ribbon comparisons that may help you easily find the items, there are add in programs out there that give you your normal menu (MrExcel sells one!) -- Simon Lloyd Regards, Simon Lloyd 'The Code Cage' (http://www.thecodecage.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Simon Lloyd's Profile: http://www.thecodecage.com/forumz/member.php?userid=1 View this thread: http://www.thecodecage.com/forumz/sh...ad.php?t=39292 |
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