This may be hard to do and a deck of cards may be my only answer

In Column A I have a list of names - potentially up to 32 (never any more)

What I need to be able to do is go thru that list and generate 4 even
groups, so for example if there were 20 names in the list it would generate 4
groups of 5 randomly picking the members for each group

The results for each group need to be placed in columns E,I,M,Q starting at
cell 1 in each coumn

If there are 19 people in the group then it would generate 3 of 5 and 1 of 4

Thanks for any assistance