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Personally I could never attribute the problem to some other addin, though
in discussion you referred to Jon Peltier seemed to suspect otherwise. The ClosePhantoms routine was designed only to close a phantom "xls" that had a path (ie previously saved) and assuming its fullname could be obtained and a reference set to it as a workbook. If your phantoms are not as described above, ie previously saved addins, try the following and see if you can at least obtain a handle to your phantom(s). Sub Test() Dim s$ Dim idx As Long, i As Long Dim wb As Workbook Dim vbp As Object '' try both types of Loop, ie 'For Each' & 'For i = 1' '' (comment 'Set vbp =' if looping 'For Each' ) 'For Each vbp In Application.VBE.vbprojects For i = 1 To Application.VBE.vbprojects.Count idx = idx + 1 s = " - ": Set wb = Nothing: Err.Clear On Error GoTo errH Set vbp = Application.VBE.vbprojects(i) 'comment if For Each On Error Resume Next s = vbp.Filename If s = " - " Then ' could be a non-phantom unsaved wb, eg "Book1" ' but not possible get the wb.name from vbp ' to set a wb reference Err.Clear s = s & vbp.Name Else s = Mid$(s, InStrRev(s, "\") + 1, 200) Set wb = Workbooks(s) End If resNext: Debug.Print idx, Err.Number, Not wb Is Nothing, s Next Exit Sub errH: Resume resNext End Sub If in this test you can set a reference to your phantom, put a break on the debug line and when you get to your phantom try - wb.Close If (?) that works it should be possible to adapt to distinguish normally loaded files and attempt to delete only the phantom(s). Regards, Peter T "Gizmo63" wrote in message ... Hi all, These well discussed phantom projects that remain even when the workbooks are closed are a real pain. Concensus seems to point to add-ins or VSTO items but here's the rub: Corporately we all have the same build but no others have the same problem so that's VSTO out of my equation. Of the other folk with this problem are any of you using Microstrategy Office, Microstrategy Desktop or FastExcel. Office wise the only thing I have that no one else does is MSAccess. These are the unique aspects to my pc. FastExcel has been removed and the pc rebooted with no effect - could something be left lurking? Microstrategy is a pain to remove and reinstall so I'd like to leave this as a last option. Peter T's subroutine to kill of the phantoms has no effect either. Need some help - these ghosts are getting to me! |
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The problem started on the day I installed a trial version of one of the
Spark Chart programs, and persisted until I restarted Excel immediately after uninstalling the program. I don't suspect that the program caused it, I know that the program caused it. - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Tutorials and Custom Solutions http://PeltierTech.com _______ "Peter T" <peter_t@discussions wrote in message ... Personally I could never attribute the problem to some other addin, though in discussion you referred to Jon Peltier seemed to suspect otherwise. The ClosePhantoms routine was designed only to close a phantom "xls" that had a path (ie previously saved) and assuming its fullname could be obtained and a reference set to it as a workbook. If your phantoms are not as described above, ie previously saved addins, try the following and see if you can at least obtain a handle to your phantom(s). Sub Test() Dim s$ Dim idx As Long, i As Long Dim wb As Workbook Dim vbp As Object '' try both types of Loop, ie 'For Each' & 'For i = 1' '' (comment 'Set vbp =' if looping 'For Each' ) 'For Each vbp In Application.VBE.vbprojects For i = 1 To Application.VBE.vbprojects.Count idx = idx + 1 s = " - ": Set wb = Nothing: Err.Clear On Error GoTo errH Set vbp = Application.VBE.vbprojects(i) 'comment if For Each On Error Resume Next s = vbp.Filename If s = " - " Then ' could be a non-phantom unsaved wb, eg "Book1" ' but not possible get the wb.name from vbp ' to set a wb reference Err.Clear s = s & vbp.Name Else s = Mid$(s, InStrRev(s, "\") + 1, 200) Set wb = Workbooks(s) End If resNext: Debug.Print idx, Err.Number, Not wb Is Nothing, s Next Exit Sub errH: Resume resNext End Sub If in this test you can set a reference to your phantom, put a break on the debug line and when you get to your phantom try - wb.Close If (?) that works it should be possible to adapt to distinguish normally loaded files and attempt to delete only the phantom(s). Regards, Peter T "Gizmo63" wrote in message ... Hi all, These well discussed phantom projects that remain even when the workbooks are closed are a real pain. Concensus seems to point to add-ins or VSTO items but here's the rub: Corporately we all have the same build but no others have the same problem so that's VSTO out of my equation. Of the other folk with this problem are any of you using Microstrategy Office, Microstrategy Desktop or FastExcel. Office wise the only thing I have that no one else does is MSAccess. These are the unique aspects to my pc. FastExcel has been removed and the pc rebooted with no effect - could something be left lurking? Microstrategy is a pain to remove and reinstall so I'd like to leave this as a last option. Peter T's subroutine to kill of the phantoms has no effect either. Need some help - these ghosts are getting to me! |
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So you are saying you managed to set wb as a reference to the phantom
workbook (an xls or addin?). Can you see anything in Locals that's different to what you might expect, look both at wb and vbp. Regards, Peter T "Gizmo63" wrote in message ... Hi Peter, Both methods identify the existance of the phantoms but wb.close does not have any effect. Cheers Giz "Peter T" wrote: Personally I could never attribute the problem to some other addin, though in discussion you referred to Jon Peltier seemed to suspect otherwise. The ClosePhantoms routine was designed only to close a phantom "xls" that had a path (ie previously saved) and assuming its fullname could be obtained and a reference set to it as a workbook. If your phantoms are not as described above, ie previously saved addins, try the following and see if you can at least obtain a handle to your phantom(s). Sub Test() Dim s$ Dim idx As Long, i As Long Dim wb As Workbook Dim vbp As Object '' try both types of Loop, ie 'For Each' & 'For i = 1' '' (comment 'Set vbp =' if looping 'For Each' ) 'For Each vbp In Application.VBE.vbprojects For i = 1 To Application.VBE.vbprojects.Count idx = idx + 1 s = " - ": Set wb = Nothing: Err.Clear On Error GoTo errH Set vbp = Application.VBE.vbprojects(i) 'comment if For Each On Error Resume Next s = vbp.Filename If s = " - " Then ' could be a non-phantom unsaved wb, eg "Book1" ' but not possible get the wb.name from vbp ' to set a wb reference Err.Clear s = s & vbp.Name Else s = Mid$(s, InStrRev(s, "\") + 1, 200) Set wb = Workbooks(s) End If resNext: Debug.Print idx, Err.Number, Not wb Is Nothing, s Next Exit Sub errH: Resume resNext End Sub If in this test you can set a reference to your phantom, put a break on the debug line and when you get to your phantom try - wb.Close If (?) that works it should be possible to adapt to distinguish normally loaded files and attempt to delete only the phantom(s). Regards, Peter T "Gizmo63" wrote in message ... Hi all, These well discussed phantom projects that remain even when the workbooks are closed are a real pain. Concensus seems to point to add-ins or VSTO items but here's the rub: Corporately we all have the same build but no others have the same problem so that's VSTO out of my equation. Of the other folk with this problem are any of you using Microstrategy Office, Microstrategy Desktop or FastExcel. Office wise the only thing I have that no one else does is MSAccess. These are the unique aspects to my pc. FastExcel has been removed and the pc rebooted with no effect - could something be left lurking? Microstrategy is a pain to remove and reinstall so I'd like to leave this as a last option. Peter T's subroutine to kill of the phantoms has no effect either. Need some help - these ghosts are getting to me! |
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I don't remember exactly how they did it. It was either a COM add-in, or
more likely some kind of VSTO crap. - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Tutorials and Custom Solutions http://PeltierTech.com _______ "Gizmo63" wrote in message ... Hi Jon, As far as I can tell we don't have the 'Sparkmaker' programs installed. I'm assuming it would show either in the font lists, add/remove program section or just the programs menu. Could it be hidden somewhere? Giz "Jon Peltier" wrote: The problem started on the day I installed a trial version of one of the Spark Chart programs, and persisted until I restarted Excel immediately after uninstalling the program. I don't suspect that the program caused it, I know that the program caused it. - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Tutorials and Custom Solutions http://PeltierTech.com _______ "Peter T" <peter_t@discussions wrote in message ... Personally I could never attribute the problem to some other addin, though in discussion you referred to Jon Peltier seemed to suspect otherwise. The ClosePhantoms routine was designed only to close a phantom "xls" that had a path (ie previously saved) and assuming its fullname could be obtained and a reference set to it as a workbook. If your phantoms are not as described above, ie previously saved addins, try the following and see if you can at least obtain a handle to your phantom(s). Sub Test() Dim s$ Dim idx As Long, i As Long Dim wb As Workbook Dim vbp As Object '' try both types of Loop, ie 'For Each' & 'For i = 1' '' (comment 'Set vbp =' if looping 'For Each' ) 'For Each vbp In Application.VBE.vbprojects For i = 1 To Application.VBE.vbprojects.Count idx = idx + 1 s = " - ": Set wb = Nothing: Err.Clear On Error GoTo errH Set vbp = Application.VBE.vbprojects(i) 'comment if For Each On Error Resume Next s = vbp.Filename If s = " - " Then ' could be a non-phantom unsaved wb, eg "Book1" ' but not possible get the wb.name from vbp ' to set a wb reference Err.Clear s = s & vbp.Name Else s = Mid$(s, InStrRev(s, "\") + 1, 200) Set wb = Workbooks(s) End If resNext: Debug.Print idx, Err.Number, Not wb Is Nothing, s Next Exit Sub errH: Resume resNext End Sub If in this test you can set a reference to your phantom, put a break on the debug line and when you get to your phantom try - wb.Close If (?) that works it should be possible to adapt to distinguish normally loaded files and attempt to delete only the phantom(s). Regards, Peter T "Gizmo63" wrote in message ... Hi all, These well discussed phantom projects that remain even when the workbooks are closed are a real pain. Concensus seems to point to add-ins or VSTO items but here's the rub: Corporately we all have the same build but no others have the same problem so that's VSTO out of my equation. Of the other folk with this problem are any of you using Microstrategy Office, Microstrategy Desktop or FastExcel. Office wise the only thing I have that no one else does is MSAccess. These are the unique aspects to my pc. FastExcel has been removed and the pc rebooted with no effect - could something be left lurking? Microstrategy is a pain to remove and reinstall so I'd like to leave this as a last option. Peter T's subroutine to kill of the phantoms has no effect either. Need some help - these ghosts are getting to me! |
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Your observations are consistent with what you would see when looking at
"vbp" that's been set as a reference to the project of an unsaved file, and one whose project name has not been changed from the default "VBAProject". Doesn't confirm either way but could it perhaps be referring to the unsaved wb in which you are running the test macro. If you look at the list of files on the left they'll be listed like this - ProjectName(WorkbookName) How is you phantom listed ? In the Immediate window (Ctrl-g) can you do any of these: - first select your phantom in project explorer - type without quotes "?thisworkbook.fullname" and Enter - type ?Workbooks("myPhantomWorkbookName.anyExt").fullnam e and Enter - type without quotes "thisworkbook.close" and Enter Regards, Peter T "Gizmo63" wrote in message ... Possibly not being too clear here. No not an actual reference to the phantom. It correctly identifies the correct number of phantoms in that the name shown in the debug.print is simply " - VBA Project" and not something like "mybook.xls". Looking in the locals; whenever it encounters a phantom it shows the vbp Filename as <Path not found BuildFileName becomes "VBAProject.DLL" wb value becomes 'Nothing' This is my first foray into this area (Locals) so I'm not sure what should be there but I'm looking for difference between valid and phantom books. Any clue to what you may expect me to find? Giz "Peter T" wrote: So you are saying you managed to set wb as a reference to the phantom workbook (an xls or addin?). Can you see anything in Locals that's different to what you might expect, look both at wb and vbp. Regards, Peter T "Gizmo63" wrote in message ... Hi Peter, Both methods identify the existance of the phantoms but wb.close does not have any effect. Cheers Giz "Peter T" wrote: Personally I could never attribute the problem to some other addin, though in discussion you referred to Jon Peltier seemed to suspect otherwise. The ClosePhantoms routine was designed only to close a phantom "xls" that had a path (ie previously saved) and assuming its fullname could be obtained and a reference set to it as a workbook. If your phantoms are not as described above, ie previously saved addins, try the following and see if you can at least obtain a handle to your phantom(s). Sub Test() Dim s$ Dim idx As Long, i As Long Dim wb As Workbook Dim vbp As Object '' try both types of Loop, ie 'For Each' & 'For i = 1' '' (comment 'Set vbp =' if looping 'For Each' ) 'For Each vbp In Application.VBE.vbprojects For i = 1 To Application.VBE.vbprojects.Count idx = idx + 1 s = " - ": Set wb = Nothing: Err.Clear On Error GoTo errH Set vbp = Application.VBE.vbprojects(i) 'comment if For Each On Error Resume Next s = vbp.Filename If s = " - " Then ' could be a non-phantom unsaved wb, eg "Book1" ' but not possible get the wb.name from vbp ' to set a wb reference Err.Clear s = s & vbp.Name Else s = Mid$(s, InStrRev(s, "\") + 1, 200) Set wb = Workbooks(s) End If resNext: Debug.Print idx, Err.Number, Not wb Is Nothing, s Next Exit Sub errH: Resume resNext End Sub If in this test you can set a reference to your phantom, put a break on the debug line and when you get to your phantom try - wb.Close If (?) that works it should be possible to adapt to distinguish normally loaded files and attempt to delete only the phantom(s). Regards, Peter T "Gizmo63" wrote in message ... Hi all, These well discussed phantom projects that remain even when the workbooks are closed are a real pain. Concensus seems to point to add-ins or VSTO items but here's the rub: Corporately we all have the same build but no others have the same problem so that's VSTO out of my equation. Of the other folk with this problem are any of you using Microstrategy Office, Microstrategy Desktop or FastExcel. Office wise the only thing I have that no one else does is MSAccess. These are the unique aspects to my pc. FastExcel has been removed and the pc rebooted with no effect - could something be left lurking? Microstrategy is a pain to remove and reinstall so I'd like to leave this as a last option. Peter T's subroutine to kill of the phantoms has no effect either. Need some help - these ghosts are getting to me! |
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In the phantom projects I've encountered, I could do all except the last.
..Close would be accepted (i.e., no error or warning), but the phantom project remained. - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Tutorials and Custom Solutions http://PeltierTech.com _______ "Peter T" <peter_t@discussions wrote in message ... Your observations are consistent with what you would see when looking at "vbp" that's been set as a reference to the project of an unsaved file, and one whose project name has not been changed from the default "VBAProject". Doesn't confirm either way but could it perhaps be referring to the unsaved wb in which you are running the test macro. If you look at the list of files on the left they'll be listed like this - ProjectName(WorkbookName) How is you phantom listed ? In the Immediate window (Ctrl-g) can you do any of these: - first select your phantom in project explorer - type without quotes "?thisworkbook.fullname" and Enter - type ?Workbooks("myPhantomWorkbookName.anyExt").fullnam e and Enter - type without quotes "thisworkbook.close" and Enter Regards, Peter T "Gizmo63" wrote in message ... Possibly not being too clear here. No not an actual reference to the phantom. It correctly identifies the correct number of phantoms in that the name shown in the debug.print is simply " - VBA Project" and not something like "mybook.xls". Looking in the locals; whenever it encounters a phantom it shows the vbp Filename as <Path not found BuildFileName becomes "VBAProject.DLL" wb value becomes 'Nothing' This is my first foray into this area (Locals) so I'm not sure what should be there but I'm looking for difference between valid and phantom books. Any clue to what you may expect me to find? Giz "Peter T" wrote: So you are saying you managed to set wb as a reference to the phantom workbook (an xls or addin?). Can you see anything in Locals that's different to what you might expect, look both at wb and vbp. Regards, Peter T "Gizmo63" wrote in message ... Hi Peter, Both methods identify the existance of the phantoms but wb.close does not have any effect. Cheers Giz "Peter T" wrote: Personally I could never attribute the problem to some other addin, though in discussion you referred to Jon Peltier seemed to suspect otherwise. The ClosePhantoms routine was designed only to close a phantom "xls" that had a path (ie previously saved) and assuming its fullname could be obtained and a reference set to it as a workbook. If your phantoms are not as described above, ie previously saved addins, try the following and see if you can at least obtain a handle to your phantom(s). Sub Test() Dim s$ Dim idx As Long, i As Long Dim wb As Workbook Dim vbp As Object '' try both types of Loop, ie 'For Each' & 'For i = 1' '' (comment 'Set vbp =' if looping 'For Each' ) 'For Each vbp In Application.VBE.vbprojects For i = 1 To Application.VBE.vbprojects.Count idx = idx + 1 s = " - ": Set wb = Nothing: Err.Clear On Error GoTo errH Set vbp = Application.VBE.vbprojects(i) 'comment if For Each On Error Resume Next s = vbp.Filename If s = " - " Then ' could be a non-phantom unsaved wb, eg "Book1" ' but not possible get the wb.name from vbp ' to set a wb reference Err.Clear s = s & vbp.Name Else s = Mid$(s, InStrRev(s, "\") + 1, 200) Set wb = Workbooks(s) End If resNext: Debug.Print idx, Err.Number, Not wb Is Nothing, s Next Exit Sub errH: Resume resNext End Sub If in this test you can set a reference to your phantom, put a break on the debug line and when you get to your phantom try - wb.Close If (?) that works it should be possible to adapt to distinguish normally loaded files and attempt to delete only the phantom(s). Regards, Peter T "Gizmo63" wrote in message ... Hi all, These well discussed phantom projects that remain even when the workbooks are closed are a real pain. Concensus seems to point to add-ins or VSTO items but here's the rub: Corporately we all have the same build but no others have the same problem so that's VSTO out of my equation. Of the other folk with this problem are any of you using Microstrategy Office, Microstrategy Desktop or FastExcel. Office wise the only thing I have that no one else does is MSAccess. These are the unique aspects to my pc. FastExcel has been removed and the pc rebooted with no effect - could something be left lurking? Microstrategy is a pain to remove and reinstall so I'd like to leave this as a last option. Peter T's subroutine to kill of the phantoms has no effect either. Need some help - these ghosts are getting to me! |
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Morning Peter, happy Monday!
Cheers! Well I'm fresh out of ideas, again! Perhaps I might recap what we have so far in case anyone else ever wants to delve in further - It seems phantoms manifest in different degrees of ghostliness, mine the least so and yours the most. 1. (mine) Exists in the VBProjects collection but not in the Workbooks collection. However it is a Workbook and can be closed, either by Workbooks("myPhantom.xls").close, or ThisWorkbook.close in the immediate window. I've never been able to directly attribute my phantoms to some other Com or dll type addin or third party app (I recall similar in XL97 with no such apps) and never noticed them lead to other problems (Dave Peterson commented similarly re no apparent problems). 2. (Jon Peltier's) He reported no errors with the tests in the immediate window which suggests it also exist as a Workbook, albeit not in the collection. However he could not close which suggests something preventing that, some sort of circular object reference perhaps. He clearly attributed the cause to a particular third party app and also said the existence of a phantom can lead to other problems. 3. (yours) All three tests in the Immediate window failed which suggest it does not exist at all as a workbook. It does exist in the VBProjects collection (subject your earlier report was not referring to an innocuous unsaved wb whose project name is also VBAProject). Leads to serious memory leak. Regards, Peter T "Gizmo63" wrote in message ... Morning Peter, happy Monday! In the project window the naming of phantoms is indestinguisable from a real file: e.g. "VBAProject (Consolidated WSSI 2007.xls)" All the coding is also visible and editable. ?thisworkbook.fullname returns 'Runtime Error 429': ActiveXcomponent can't create object ?Workbooks("myPhantomWorkbookName.anyExt").fullnam e returns a 'Runtime error 9': Subscript out of range "thisworkbook.close" returns a 'Compile Error' It's also retaining a memory allocation for these phantoms; I have a consolidation that opens a load of individual workbooks, copies info and then closes them again. Each of these sticks around as a phantom and at the end of the process I am getting 'out of memory' messages. Make any sense to you? Giz "Peter T" wrote: Your observations are consistent with what you would see when looking at "vbp" that's been set as a reference to the project of an unsaved file, and one whose project name has not been changed from the default "VBAProject". Doesn't confirm either way but could it perhaps be referring to the unsaved wb in which you are running the test macro. If you look at the list of files on the left they'll be listed like this - ProjectName(WorkbookName) How is you phantom listed ? In the Immediate window (Ctrl-g) can you do any of these: - first select your phantom in project explorer - type without quotes "?thisworkbook.fullname" and Enter - type ?Workbooks("myPhantomWorkbookName.anyExt").fullnam e and Enter - type without quotes "thisworkbook.close" and Enter Regards, Peter T "Gizmo63" wrote in message ... Possibly not being too clear here. No not an actual reference to the phantom. It correctly identifies the correct number of phantoms in that the name shown in the debug.print is simply " - VBA Project" and not something like "mybook.xls". Looking in the locals; whenever it encounters a phantom it shows the vbp Filename as <Path not found BuildFileName becomes "VBAProject.DLL" wb value becomes 'Nothing' This is my first foray into this area (Locals) so I'm not sure what should be there but I'm looking for difference between valid and phantom books. Any clue to what you may expect me to find? Giz "Peter T" wrote: So you are saying you managed to set wb as a reference to the phantom workbook (an xls or addin?). Can you see anything in Locals that's different to what you might expect, look both at wb and vbp. Regards, Peter T "Gizmo63" wrote in message ... Hi Peter, Both methods identify the existance of the phantoms but wb.close does not have any effect. Cheers Giz "Peter T" wrote: Personally I could never attribute the problem to some other addin, though in discussion you referred to Jon Peltier seemed to suspect otherwise. The ClosePhantoms routine was designed only to close a phantom "xls" that had a path (ie previously saved) and assuming its fullname could be obtained and a reference set to it as a workbook. If your phantoms are not as described above, ie previously saved addins, try the following and see if you can at least obtain a handle to your phantom(s). Sub Test() Dim s$ Dim idx As Long, i As Long Dim wb As Workbook Dim vbp As Object '' try both types of Loop, ie 'For Each' & 'For i = 1' '' (comment 'Set vbp =' if looping 'For Each' ) 'For Each vbp In Application.VBE.vbprojects For i = 1 To Application.VBE.vbprojects.Count idx = idx + 1 s = " - ": Set wb = Nothing: Err.Clear On Error GoTo errH Set vbp = Application.VBE.vbprojects(i) 'comment if For Each On Error Resume Next s = vbp.Filename If s = " - " Then ' could be a non-phantom unsaved wb, eg "Book1" ' but not possible get the wb.name from vbp ' to set a wb reference Err.Clear s = s & vbp.Name Else s = Mid$(s, InStrRev(s, "\") + 1, 200) Set wb = Workbooks(s) End If resNext: Debug.Print idx, Err.Number, Not wb Is Nothing, s Next Exit Sub errH: Resume resNext End Sub If in this test you can set a reference to your phantom, put a break on the debug line and when you get to your phantom try - wb.Close If (?) that works it should be possible to adapt to distinguish normally loaded files and attempt to delete only the phantom(s). Regards, Peter T "Gizmo63" wrote in message ... Hi all, These well discussed phantom projects that remain even when the workbooks are closed are a real pain. Concensus seems to point to add-ins or VSTO items but here's the rub: Corporately we all have the same build but no others have the same problem so that's VSTO out of my equation. Of the other folk with this problem are any of you using Microstrategy Office, Microstrategy Desktop or FastExcel. Office wise the only thing I have that no one else does is MSAccess. These are the unique aspects to my pc. FastExcel has been removed and the pc rebooted with no effect - could something be left lurking? Microstrategy is a pain to remove and reinstall so I'd like to leave this as a last option. Peter T's subroutine to kill of the phantoms has no effect either. Need some help - these ghosts are getting to me! |
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