I found that merged cells can contain multiple values.

Steps to reproduce:

Type 1,2,3,4 in a1:d1
type sum(a1:d1) in e1

Select a1:b1 and merge
Warning : MultipleData, overwrite?
Say yes to merge

Select the merged a1:b1 cells
Copy
Select c1
PasteSpecial Formats

No warning.. no overwrite.

c1:d1 are now merged
BUT d1 still contains a value...
and the SUM of a1:d1 = 8 !!

Also happens with FormatPainter etc
Behaviour observed in xl97,xlXP and xl2003

Error checking will find no fault in the sheet...
and you can spend ages to find out WHY your cross
sums dont match!

(although now that i found this behaviour I'll might
have some use for it...)


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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 02:42:29 -0800, "keepITcool" wrote:


I found that merged cells can contain multiple values.

Steps to reproduce:

Type 1,2,3,4 in a1:d1
type sum(a1:d1) in e1

Select a1:b1 and merge
Warning : MultipleData, overwrite?
Say yes to merge

Select the merged a1:b1 cells
Copy
Select c1
PasteSpecial Formats

No warning.. no overwrite.

c1:d1 are now merged
BUT d1 still contains a value...
and the SUM of a1:d1 = 8 !!

Also happens with FormatPainter etc
Behaviour observed in xl97,xlXP and xl2003

Error checking will find no fault in the sheet...
and you can spend ages to find out WHY your cross
sums dont match!

(although now that i found this behaviour I'll might
have some use for it...)

I just went through the steps you outlined above.

E1 initially showed '10'

After going through the steps, E1 now shows a '2'.

In other words, I could not reproduce your problem on my system:

Windows XP Pro SP2; Excel 2002 SP3


--ron

Yes, and merge cells can also contain multiple formats.

Sub test1()
With [a1:b2]
..MergeCells = True
'.Merge
For i = 1 To 4
..Cells(i).Value = i
..Cells(i).Interior.ColorIndex = i + 2
Next
''look first then manually or prog' unmerge
''four colour formats recovered ?
'.MergeCells = False
'.UnMerge
End With
End Sub

Above applies formats after merging. But I've also had situation where Merge
is done after formats have been applied, formats of the "other" cells
retained but hidden. At the moment I can't seem to recreate but I'm sure it
can occur. For my purposes this scenario can be problematic when polling
formatted cells.

There can also be a difference between
rge.Merge vs rge.MergeCells = False

Regards,
Peter

"keepITcool" wrote in message
ft.com...

I found that merged cells can contain multiple values.

Steps to reproduce:

Type 1,2,3,4 in a1:d1
type sum(a1:d1) in e1

Select a1:b1 and merge
Warning : MultipleData, overwrite?
Say yes to merge

Select the merged a1:b1 cells
Copy
Select c1
PasteSpecial Formats

No warning.. no overwrite.

c1:d1 are now merged
BUT d1 still contains a value...
and the SUM of a1:d1 = 8 !!

Also happens with FormatPainter etc
Behaviour observed in xl97,xlXP and xl2003

Error checking will find no fault in the sheet...
and you can spend ages to find out WHY your cross
sums dont match!

(although now that i found this behaviour I'll might
have some use for it...)


--
keepITcool

| www.XLsupport.com | keepITcool chello nl | amsterdam

maybe my steps were not clear?

Sub ReproBug()

With Range("a1:e1")
.Clear
.Value = Array(1, 2, 3, 4, "=sum(a1:d1)")
With .Cells(1).Resize(, 2)
.Merge
.Copy
End With
.Cells(3).PasteSpecial xlFormats
End With

End Sub

gives me : 1 merge warning and 8 in e1
(xl97,xlXP,xl2003)



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Ron Rosenfeld wrote :

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 02:42:29 -0800, "keepITcool"
wrote:


I found that merged cells can contain multiple values.

Steps to reproduce:

Type 1,2,3,4 in a1:d1
type sum(a1:d1) in e1

Select a1:b1 and merge
Warning : MultipleData, overwrite?
Say yes to merge

Select the merged a1:b1 cells
Copy
Select c1
PasteSpecial Formats

No warning.. no overwrite.

c1:d1 are now merged
BUT d1 still contains a value...
and the SUM of a1:d1 = 8 !!

Also happens with FormatPainter etc
Behaviour observed in xl97,xlXP and xl2003

Error checking will find no fault in the sheet...
and you can spend ages to find out WHY your cross
sums dont match!

(although now that i found this behaviour I'll might
have some use for it...)

I just went through the steps you outlined above.

E1 initially showed '10'

After going through the steps, E1 now shows a '2'.

In other words, I could not reproduce your problem on my system:

Windows XP Pro SP2; Excel 2002 SP3


--ron

Hi
[...]
(although now that i found this behaviour I'll might
have some use for it...)

I just went through the steps you outlined above.

E1 initially showed '10'

After going through the steps, E1 now shows a '2'.

In other words, I could not reproduce your problem on my system:

Windows XP Pro SP2; Excel 2002 SP3

Hi
I could reproduce this behaviour with Excel 97. You could also see the
difference after unmerging the cells.

Frank

I can reproduce in Excel 2003 SP1 and 2000 SP3 under Windows 2000 and
Excel XP SP2 under Windows Me.

Ron, are you sure you followed the directions correctly? It seems odd
that MS would correct in an older version and not in the latest version.

Jerry

Ron Rosenfeld wrote:

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 02:42:29 -0800, "keepITcool" wrote:


I found that merged cells can contain multiple values.

Steps to reproduce:

Type 1,2,3,4 in a1:d1
type sum(a1:d1) in e1

Select a1:b1 and merge
Warning : MultipleData, overwrite?
Say yes to merge

Select the merged a1:b1 cells
Copy
Select c1
PasteSpecial Formats

No warning.. no overwrite.

c1:d1 are now merged
BUT d1 still contains a value...
and the SUM of a1:d1 = 8 !!

Also happens with FormatPainter etc
Behaviour observed in xl97,xlXP and xl2003

Error checking will find no fault in the sheet...
and you can spend ages to find out WHY your cross
sums dont match!

(although now that i found this behaviour I'll might
have some use for it...)


I just went through the steps you outlined above.

E1 initially showed '10'

After going through the steps, E1 now shows a '2'.

In other words, I could not reproduce your problem on my system:

Windows XP Pro SP2; Excel 2002 SP3


--ron

I received a Merge Warning using Excel 2003 sp-1 from Office Pro on Windows
XP Pro sp-2. Error Checking did not catch it, though.

tj


"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote:

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 02:42:29 -0800, "keepITcool" wrote:


I found that merged cells can contain multiple values.

Steps to reproduce:

Type 1,2,3,4 in a1:d1
type sum(a1:d1) in e1

Select a1:b1 and merge
Warning : MultipleData, overwrite?
Say yes to merge

Select the merged a1:b1 cells
Copy
Select c1
PasteSpecial Formats

No warning.. no overwrite.

c1:d1 are now merged
BUT d1 still contains a value...
and the SUM of a1:d1 = 8 !!

Also happens with FormatPainter etc
Behaviour observed in xl97,xlXP and xl2003

Error checking will find no fault in the sheet...
and you can spend ages to find out WHY your cross
sums dont match!

(although now that i found this behaviour I'll might
have some use for it...)

I just went through the steps you outlined above.

E1 initially showed '10'

After going through the steps, E1 now shows a '2'.

In other words, I could not reproduce your problem on my system:

Windows XP Pro SP2; Excel 2002 SP3


--ron

That wouldn't necessarily be correcting an older version, it might just be a
'feature' introduced into a later version.

Bob

"Jerry W. Lewis" wrote in message
...
I can reproduce in Excel 2003 SP1 and 2000 SP3 under Windows 2000 and
Excel XP SP2 under Windows Me.

Ron, are you sure you followed the directions correctly? It seems odd
that MS would correct in an older version and not in the latest version.

Jerry

Ron Rosenfeld wrote:

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 02:42:29 -0800, "keepITcool"
wrote:


I found that merged cells can contain multiple values.

Steps to reproduce:

Type 1,2,3,4 in a1:d1
type sum(a1:d1) in e1

Select a1:b1 and merge
Warning : MultipleData, overwrite?
Say yes to merge

Select the merged a1:b1 cells
Copy
Select c1
PasteSpecial Formats

No warning.. no overwrite.

c1:d1 are now merged
BUT d1 still contains a value...
and the SUM of a1:d1 = 8 !!

Also happens with FormatPainter etc
Behaviour observed in xl97,xlXP and xl2003

Error checking will find no fault in the sheet...
and you can spend ages to find out WHY your cross
sums dont match!

(although now that i found this behaviour I'll might
have some use for it...)


I just went through the steps you outlined above.

E1 initially showed '10'

After going through the steps, E1 now shows a '2'.

In other words, I could not reproduce your problem on my system:

Windows XP Pro SP2; Excel 2002 SP3


--ron

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 04:19:21 -0800, "keepITcool" wrote:

maybe my steps were not clear?

Sub ReproBug()

With Range("a1:e1")
.Clear
.Value = Array(1, 2, 3, 4, "=sum(a1:d1)")
With .Cells(1).Resize(, 2)
.Merge
.Copy
End With
.Cells(3).PasteSpecial xlFormats
End With

End Sub

gives me : 1 merge warning and 8 in e1
(xl97,xlXP,xl2003)

I think they were clear.

With your SUB and my setup (Windows XP Pro SP2; Excel 2002 SP3)

after running the SUB, I get the merge warning. After clicking OK to clear the
warning, A1:B1 has a dotted line around the merged cells and I get a message in
the lower bar "Select destination and press ENTER or choose Paste". Prior to
doing anything, there is a 1 in A1:B1, and a 3 in C:D1, and an 8 in E1.

After hitting ENTER, or Paste and then <esc, the dotted line clears, and there
are 1's in the merged cells and a 2 in E1.

However, if I hit <esc, then there remains a 1 in A1:B1; a 3 in C1:D1 and an 8
in E1.


--ron

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 13:41:11 GMT, "Jerry W. Lewis"
wrote:

I can reproduce in Excel 2003 SP1 and 2000 SP3 under Windows 2000 and
Excel XP SP2 under Windows Me.

Ron, are you sure you followed the directions correctly? It seems odd
that MS would correct in an older version and not in the latest version.

Jerry

Yes, but also see what happens when running the SUB. (See a prior post).


--ron

proves my point, doesn't it?

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Ron Rosenfeld wrote :

However, if I hit <esc, then there remains a 1 in A1:B1; a 3 in
C1:D1 and an 8 in E1.

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 13:41:11 GMT, "Jerry W. Lewis"
wrote:

I can reproduce in Excel 2003 SP1 and 2000 SP3 under Windows 2000 and
Excel XP SP2 under Windows Me.

Ron, are you sure you followed the directions correctly? It seems odd
that MS would correct in an older version and not in the latest version.

Jerry

OK, I see what the difference was. After Paste Special Formats, I hit <enter
or <paste per the bottom line (same as in the SUB). In that case the result
is normal.

However, if I hit <esc or if I use the Format Painter for a single operation,
then I get the same error as K.




--ron

the warning message is from the actual merge method.
and you SHOULD get it.

the point is the PASTEVALUE merges cells without the warning
and without deleting the values in the 'non first' merged cells.



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tjtjjtjt wrote :

I received a Merge Warning using Excel 2003 sp-1 from Office Pro on
Windows XP Pro sp-2. Error Checking did not catch it, though.

tj


"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote:

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 02:42:29 -0800, "keepITcool"
wrote:


I found that merged cells can contain multiple values.

Steps to reproduce:

Type 1,2,3,4 in a1:d1
type sum(a1:d1) in e1

Select a1:b1 and merge
Warning : MultipleData, overwrite?
Say yes to merge

Select the merged a1:b1 cells
Copy
Select c1
PasteSpecial Formats

No warning.. no overwrite.

c1:d1 are now merged
BUT d1 still contains a value...
and the SUM of a1:d1 = 8 !!

Also happens with FormatPainter etc
Behaviour observed in xl97,xlXP and xl2003

Error checking will find no fault in the sheet...
and you can spend ages to find out WHY your cross
sums dont match!

(although now that i found this behaviour I'll might
have some use for it...)

I just went through the steps you outlined above.

E1 initially showed '10'

After going through the steps, E1 now shows a '2'.

In other words, I could not reproduce your problem on my system:

Windows XP Pro SP2; Excel 2002 SP3


--ron

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 04:19:21 -0800, "keepITcool" wrote:

maybe my steps were not clear?

Sub ReproBug()

With Range("a1:e1")
.Clear
.Value = Array(1, 2, 3, 4, "=sum(a1:d1)")
With .Cells(1).Resize(, 2)
.Merge
.Copy
End With
.Cells(3).PasteSpecial xlFormats
End With

End Sub

gives me : 1 merge warning and 8 in e1
(xl97,xlXP,xl2003)

See my later response to Jerry. With your initial operation, and with the SUB,
after completing your steps, if I then hit <esc (and not <enter or <paste),
then I can reproduce your feature.

Also, using the format painter in a single operation will reproduce the
problem. If you use it for a multiple operation (i.e. double click on the
format painter), then you have the opportunity to hit <enter and get the
merge.

HOWEVER, and this would seem to be ANOTHER bug, if you do the PASTE FORMAT on a
merged cell, and if you hit <enter or <paste when done, C1:D1 do merge, but
the VALUE from A1 gets copied over into C1.




--ron

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 02:42:29 -0800, "keepITcool" wrote:


I found that merged cells can contain multiple values.

Steps to reproduce:

Type 1,2,3,4 in a1:d1
type sum(a1:d1) in e1

Select a1:b1 and merge
Warning : MultipleData, overwrite?
Say yes to merge

Select the merged a1:b1 cells
Copy
Select c1
PasteSpecial Formats

No warning.. no overwrite.

c1:d1 are now merged
BUT d1 still contains a value...
and the SUM of a1:d1 = 8 !!

Also happens with FormatPainter etc
Behaviour observed in xl97,xlXP and xl2003

Error checking will find no fault in the sheet...
and you can spend ages to find out WHY your cross
sums dont match!

(although now that i found this behaviour I'll might
have some use for it...)

There are some MSKB articles referencing XL97 and 2000 with regard to problems
with Paste Special and Format Painter and Merged cells.

It sounds as if they have not fully developed this "feature" :-).


--ron