That works great...

Look at the monster you have helped me create:

=IF(ISERROR((SUMPRODUCT(--($A$13:$A$3000=$A21))+1)-(SUMPRODUCT(--($A$13:$A$3000=$A21),--(AI21<AI$13:AI$3000))+1)-IF(AI21="","",SUMPRODUCT(--($A$13:$A$3000=A21),--(($AI$13:$AI$3000=""))))),"",(SUMPRODUCT(--($A$13:$A$3000=$A21))+1)-(SUMPRODUCT(--($A$13:$A$3000=$A21),--(AI21<AI$13:AI$3000))+1)-IF(AI21="","",SUMPRODUCT(--($A$13:$A$3000=A21),--(($AI$13:$AI$3000="")))))

any ideas to cut that down, let me know!

thanks man...

SteveC