Hi,

I have a cell, say A1, with conditional formatting based on the contents of
the cell on the same row, say, 3 columns to the right, specified with a
relative reference ($D2). When I copy the cells with the conditional
formatting up and down, the cell that determines the formatting goes with it,
which is just what I want. The formatting for A5 is based on D5, etc.

But I want my users to also be able to cut/paste these cells if they wish
and in this case, the formatting does not follow. For example, If I cut cell
A1 and paste to A5, the formatting is still based on D1, not D5.

I would think there's a way using indirect references, but I'm unable to see
the answer.

Thanks,
Barnett

Put the $ around the row number as well (i.e. $D$1)

Does that answer your question?

--
Regards,
Dave


"barnett" wrote:

Hi,

I have a cell, say A1, with conditional formatting based on the contents of
the cell on the same row, say, 3 columns to the right, specified with a
relative reference ($D2). When I copy the cells with the conditional
formatting up and down, the cell that determines the formatting goes with it,
which is just what I want. The formatting for A5 is based on D5, etc.

But I want my users to also be able to cut/paste these cells if they wish
and in this case, the formatting does not follow. For example, If I cut cell
A1 and paste to A5, the formatting is still based on D1, not D5.

I would think there's a way using indirect references, but I'm unable to see
the answer.

Thanks,
Barnett

Hi Dave,

Actually, I want the opposite. I want the reference to stay relative even
when the user cuts and pastes.

I think putting the $ in front of the row would make it absolute even when
copying.

Barnett

"David Billigmeier" wrote:

Put the $ around the row number as well (i.e. $D$1)

Does that answer your question?

--
Regards,
Dave


"barnett" wrote:

Hi,

I have a cell, say A1, with conditional formatting based on the contents of
the cell on the same row, say, 3 columns to the right, specified with a
relative reference ($D2). When I copy the cells with the conditional
formatting up and down, the cell that determines the formatting goes with it,
which is just what I want. The formatting for A5 is based on D5, etc.

But I want my users to also be able to cut/paste these cells if they wish
and in this case, the formatting does not follow. For example, If I cut cell
A1 and paste to A5, the formatting is still based on D1, not D5.

I would think there's a way using indirect references, but I'm unable to see
the answer.

Thanks,
Barnett

Yes, you are correct that putting a $ in front of both the row and column
would make it an absolute reference. But from your wording I thought that's
what you wanted? You mentioned when a user copies A1, who's formatting
relies on D1, and pastes in A5, you still want the formatting to refer to
D1... in which case you will need a dollar sign around the row (i.e. D$1).
If you want the reference to REMAIN relative, you shouldn't put in any dollar
signs (i.e. D1).

Does that make sense or am I still not reading your question right?
--
Regards,
Dave


"barnett" wrote:

Hi Dave,

Actually, I want the opposite. I want the reference to stay relative even
when the user cuts and pastes.

I think putting the $ in front of the row would make it absolute even when
copying.

Barnett

"David Billigmeier" wrote:

Put the $ around the row number as well (i.e. $D$1)

Does that answer your question?

--
Regards,
Dave


"barnett" wrote:

Hi,

I have a cell, say A1, with conditional formatting based on the contents of
the cell on the same row, say, 3 columns to the right, specified with a
relative reference ($D2). When I copy the cells with the conditional
formatting up and down, the cell that determines the formatting goes with it,
which is just what I want. The formatting for A5 is based on D5, etc.

But I want my users to also be able to cut/paste these cells if they wish
and in this case, the formatting does not follow. For example, If I cut cell
A1 and paste to A5, the formatting is still based on D1, not D5.

I would think there's a way using indirect references, but I'm unable to see
the answer.

Thanks,
Barnett

Hi Dave,

Maybe I wasn't clear initially. I want the conditional formatting to be
based on the contents of the cell on the same row, but 3 columns over.
Formatting of A5 would be based on D5, formatting of A9 based on D9.

After I cut A5 and paste it to A9, I want the formatting of A9 to still be
based on D9 and the formatting of A5 (now empty) to be still based on D5.

I could think of a way to trap the cut/paste operations using a macro, but I
don't want to embed macros in the file for various reasons. Maybe I just need
to tell the users not to cut/paste only copy. Or just give up the formatting.

Barnett

"David Billigmeier" wrote:

Yes, you are correct that putting a $ in front of both the row and column
would make it an absolute reference. But from your wording I thought that's
what you wanted? You mentioned when a user copies A1, who's formatting
relies on D1, and pastes in A5, you still want the formatting to refer to
D1... in which case you will need a dollar sign around the row (i.e. D$1).
If you want the reference to REMAIN relative, you shouldn't put in any dollar
signs (i.e. D1).

Does that make sense or am I still not reading your question right?
--
Regards,
Dave


"barnett" wrote:

Hi Dave,

Actually, I want the opposite. I want the reference to stay relative even
when the user cuts and pastes.

I think putting the $ in front of the row would make it absolute even when
copying.

Barnett

"David Billigmeier" wrote:

Put the $ around the row number as well (i.e. $D$1)

Does that answer your question?

--
Regards,
Dave


"barnett" wrote:

Hi,

I have a cell, say A1, with conditional formatting based on the contents of
the cell on the same row, say, 3 columns to the right, specified with a
relative reference ($D2). When I copy the cells with the conditional
formatting up and down, the cell that determines the formatting goes with it,
which is just what I want. The formatting for A5 is based on D5, etc.

But I want my users to also be able to cut/paste these cells if they wish
and in this case, the formatting does not follow. For example, If I cut cell
A1 and paste to A5, the formatting is still based on D1, not D5.

I would think there's a way using indirect references, but I'm unable to see
the answer.

Thanks,
Barnett

I'm replying again so I can check the notify box, which I forgot to do
earlier, in case Dave or anyone else has a suggestion for me.

Incidentally, I might be able to get it to work if there were a function
that returned the cell's own address. So entering a formula like =MyAddress()
in A4 would return a string "A4", or better, a range.

Barnett

"barnett" wrote:

Hi Dave,

Maybe I wasn't clear initially. I want the conditional formatting to be
based on the contents of the cell on the same row, but 3 columns over.
Formatting of A5 would be based on D5, formatting of A9 based on D9.

After I cut A5 and paste it to A9, I want the formatting of A9 to still be
based on D9 and the formatting of A5 (now empty) to be still based on D5.

I could think of a way to trap the cut/paste operations using a macro, but I
don't want to embed macros in the file for various reasons. Maybe I just need
to tell the users not to cut/paste only copy. Or just give up the formatting.

Barnett

"David Billigmeier" wrote:

Yes, you are correct that putting a $ in front of both the row and column
would make it an absolute reference. But from your wording I thought that's
what you wanted? You mentioned when a user copies A1, who's formatting
relies on D1, and pastes in A5, you still want the formatting to refer to
D1... in which case you will need a dollar sign around the row (i.e. D$1).
If you want the reference to REMAIN relative, you shouldn't put in any dollar
signs (i.e. D1).

Does that make sense or am I still not reading your question right?
--
Regards,
Dave


"barnett" wrote:

Hi Dave,

Actually, I want the opposite. I want the reference to stay relative even
when the user cuts and pastes.

I think putting the $ in front of the row would make it absolute even when
copying.

Barnett

"David Billigmeier" wrote:

Put the $ around the row number as well (i.e. $D$1)

Does that answer your question?

--
Regards,
Dave


"barnett" wrote:

Hi,

I have a cell, say A1, with conditional formatting based on the contents of
the cell on the same row, say, 3 columns to the right, specified with a
relative reference ($D2). When I copy the cells with the conditional
formatting up and down, the cell that determines the formatting goes with it,
which is just what I want. The formatting for A5 is based on D5, etc.

But I want my users to also be able to cut/paste these cells if they wish
and in this case, the formatting does not follow. For example, If I cut cell
A1 and paste to A5, the formatting is still based on D1, not D5.

I would think there's a way using indirect references, but I'm unable to see
the answer.

Thanks,
Barnett