I have done it all with Excel 2003 and previous versions. From very simple
and straighforward formulas to the most complex and abstract ones. From very
evident templates to the most sophysticated projects that have been running
globaly for many years. It was just about couple of things that I have to
learn in that that it was not really relevant for me of my job. Now with the
new Ribbon luck I feel that I will have to learn it all over again. In my
very modest opinion, I think that Microsoft took a very bad approach when
changing the look and structure of the Office applications by moving from a
well known system, to a system that it is completly different in the way it
looks. I am having a really hard time to find the things I used to use all
the time, that now who knows where the hell they are.

I think this is stupid. It is already very difficult to master this for
Microsoft to decide to change the design, structure and management of the
system. The problem is that I don't feel like learning this again, and I
think that as it has been happening with Wall Street, we are the ones that
have lost here. I think that all this is business for Microsoft and it should
not been like that. Besides some good improvements across, such as the
increment of possible levels in formulas, o the number of rows in a specific
spread sheet, I think that for the most part, the new look sucks. Sorry to be
so honest, but it is hard to give an opinion on something that is affecting
you and had aleady been decided.

How to fix it? Simple, live the new features, and if you want with the new
look, but with an option that gives you the power to decide if you want to
continue working in the traditional look or not.

PLEASE Download Excel ribbon mapping workbook
from the "Interactive: Excel 2003 to Excel 2007 command reference guide" page
available at http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/he...491511033.aspx

I had the same reaction when I started with Excel 2007 but soon got to like
it a lot...
"Argy" wrote:

I have done it all with Excel 2003 and previous versions. From very simple
and straighforward formulas to the most complex and abstract ones. From very
evident templates to the most sophysticated projects that have been running
globaly for many years. It was just about couple of things that I have to
learn in that that it was not really relevant for me of my job. Now with the
new Ribbon luck I feel that I will have to learn it all over again. In my
very modest opinion, I think that Microsoft took a very bad approach when
changing the look and structure of the Office applications by moving from a
well known system, to a system that it is completly different in the way it
looks. I am having a really hard time to find the things I used to use all
the time, that now who knows where the hell they are.

I think this is stupid. It is already very difficult to master this for
Microsoft to decide to change the design, structure and management of the
system. The problem is that I don't feel like learning this again, and I
think that as it has been happening with Wall Street, we are the ones that
have lost here. I think that all this is business for Microsoft and it should
not been like that. Besides some good improvements across, such as the
increment of possible levels in formulas, o the number of rows in a specific
spread sheet, I think that for the most part, the new look sucks. Sorry to be
so honest, but it is hard to give an opinion on something that is affecting
you and had aleady been decided.

How to fix it? Simple, live the new features, and if you want with the new
look, but with an option that gives you the power to decide if you want to
continue working in the traditional look or not.

Hi,

It is a steep learning curve for old users, but new users seem to think its
quite intuitive.

There is an option I haven't tried - there are some 3rd party add-ins that
give Excel 2007 back the 2003 menus toolbars? Try google this "Excel 2003
toolbars for 2007"

I have personally documented at least 1750 new features in Excel 2007.
There are a lot of great things, but it is a pain learning them.

By the way the market tanked in 2008 and Microsoft began building 2007 way
back in at least 2003, and had it in Beta starting in 2005, and released it
in spring of 2007. The ecomomy was booming then.



--
Thanks,
Shane Devenshire


"Argy" wrote:

I have done it all with Excel 2003 and previous versions. From very simple
and straighforward formulas to the most complex and abstract ones. From very
evident templates to the most sophysticated projects that have been running
globaly for many years. It was just about couple of things that I have to
learn in that that it was not really relevant for me of my job. Now with the
new Ribbon luck I feel that I will have to learn it all over again. In my
very modest opinion, I think that Microsoft took a very bad approach when
changing the look and structure of the Office applications by moving from a
well known system, to a system that it is completly different in the way it
looks. I am having a really hard time to find the things I used to use all
the time, that now who knows where the hell they are.

I think this is stupid. It is already very difficult to master this for
Microsoft to decide to change the design, structure and management of the
system. The problem is that I don't feel like learning this again, and I
think that as it has been happening with Wall Street, we are the ones that
have lost here. I think that all this is business for Microsoft and it should
not been like that. Besides some good improvements across, such as the
increment of possible levels in formulas, o the number of rows in a specific
spread sheet, I think that for the most part, the new look sucks. Sorry to be
so honest, but it is hard to give an opinion on something that is affecting
you and had aleady been decided.

How to fix it? Simple, live the new features, and if you want with the new
look, but with an option that gives you the power to decide if you want to
continue working in the traditional look or not.

Wow!

My first few days were bad but once I got the hang of it I like it a lot...

Can you share that list with me?

See my previous post above in this thread to see an excellent 2003 to 2007
mapping spreadsheet.

"ShaneDevenshire" wrote:

Hi,

It is a steep learning curve for old users, but new users seem to think its
quite intuitive.

There is an option I haven't tried - there are some 3rd party add-ins that
give Excel 2007 back the 2003 menus toolbars? Try google this "Excel 2003
toolbars for 2007"

I have personally documented at least 1750 new features in Excel 2007.
There are a lot of great things, but it is a pain learning them.

By the way the market tanked in 2008 and Microsoft began building 2007 way
back in at least 2003, and had it in Beta starting in 2005, and released it
in spring of 2007. The ecomomy was booming then.



--
Thanks,
Shane Devenshire


"Argy" wrote:

I have done it all with Excel 2003 and previous versions. From very simple
and straighforward formulas to the most complex and abstract ones. From very
evident templates to the most sophysticated projects that have been running
globaly for many years. It was just about couple of things that I have to
learn in that that it was not really relevant for me of my job. Now with the
new Ribbon luck I feel that I will have to learn it all over again. In my
very modest opinion, I think that Microsoft took a very bad approach when
changing the look and structure of the Office applications by moving from a
well known system, to a system that it is completly different in the way it
looks. I am having a really hard time to find the things I used to use all
the time, that now who knows where the hell they are.

I think this is stupid. It is already very difficult to master this for
Microsoft to decide to change the design, structure and management of the
system. The problem is that I don't feel like learning this again, and I
think that as it has been happening with Wall Street, we are the ones that
have lost here. I think that all this is business for Microsoft and it should
not been like that. Besides some good improvements across, such as the
increment of possible levels in formulas, o the number of rows in a specific
spread sheet, I think that for the most part, the new look sucks. Sorry to be
so honest, but it is hard to give an opinion on something that is affecting
you and had aleady been decided.

How to fix it? Simple, live the new features, and if you want with the new
look, but with an option that gives you the power to decide if you want to
continue working in the traditional look or not.

Thanks guys. This is a great attitude. Of course, I don't have a choice, do
I? LOL.. See, I understand about the features and the new greate things about
this. However, my point is, why don't just make all those improvements
without having such a drastic change in the whole outlook. Trust me, as many
have probably done, I learn and master Excel myself, however, it took me two
years to do so. That is why it hurts to see all these changes in the approach
of the application. It is the same as the bailout, for those who
irresponsible bought the houses and now that the government is going to help
them, which I am ok with that, but what about the ones like me who have been
always responsible? Does this mean that I have to filed banckrupcy or
forclosure so I get no just government attention, but also the money? I know
comparissions are bad, but sometimes required.

Thanks again
--
Lost again


"Sheeloo" wrote:

Wow!

My first few days were bad but once I got the hang of it I like it a lot...

Can you share that list with me?

See my previous post above in this thread to see an excellent 2003 to 2007
mapping spreadsheet.

"ShaneDevenshire" wrote:

Hi,

It is a steep learning curve for old users, but new users seem to think its
quite intuitive.

There is an option I haven't tried - there are some 3rd party add-ins that
give Excel 2007 back the 2003 menus toolbars? Try google this "Excel 2003
toolbars for 2007"

I have personally documented at least 1750 new features in Excel 2007.
There are a lot of great things, but it is a pain learning them.

By the way the market tanked in 2008 and Microsoft began building 2007 way
back in at least 2003, and had it in Beta starting in 2005, and released it
in spring of 2007. The ecomomy was booming then.



--
Thanks,
Shane Devenshire


"Argy" wrote:

I have done it all with Excel 2003 and previous versions. From very simple
and straighforward formulas to the most complex and abstract ones. From very
evident templates to the most sophysticated projects that have been running
globaly for many years. It was just about couple of things that I have to
learn in that that it was not really relevant for me of my job. Now with the
new Ribbon luck I feel that I will have to learn it all over again. In my
very modest opinion, I think that Microsoft took a very bad approach when
changing the look and structure of the Office applications by moving from a
well known system, to a system that it is completly different in the way it
looks. I am having a really hard time to find the things I used to use all
the time, that now who knows where the hell they are.

I think this is stupid. It is already very difficult to master this for
Microsoft to decide to change the design, structure and management of the
system. The problem is that I don't feel like learning this again, and I
think that as it has been happening with Wall Street, we are the ones that
have lost here. I think that all this is business for Microsoft and it should
not been like that. Besides some good improvements across, such as the
increment of possible levels in formulas, o the number of rows in a specific
spread sheet, I think that for the most part, the new look sucks. Sorry to be
so honest, but it is hard to give an opinion on something that is affecting
you and had aleady been decided.

How to fix it? Simple, live the new features, and if you want with the new
look, but with an option that gives you the power to decide if you want to
continue working in the traditional look or not.