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Grand Totals with Nested Sub Totals
User has Excel 2002 (10.6834.6830) SP3
We have applied patch KB892097 and have done a Registry fix that this patch appears to require. Problem: Before this patch was done to correct the way Sub Totals work, the client would do 5-nested sub totals and Excel would put 5-Grand Total rows at the bottom, all with the same number. Since the patch, there is only one Grand Totals row at the bottom. Is this working as designed? Why the change? Thank you for any responses. -- Brenda |
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Grand Totals with Nested Sub Totals
A Grand Total is just that. One total for the numbers above it. That's why
it's called a "Grand Total". As in: 5, 3 Subtotal 8. 4, 7 Subtotal 11. Grand Total 19 Why would you want to see: 5, 3 Subtotal 8. 4, 7 Subtotal 11. Grand Total 19. Grand Total 19 Tyro "Brenda from Michigan" wrote in message ... User has Excel 2002 (10.6834.6830) SP3 We have applied patch KB892097 and have done a Registry fix that this patch appears to require. Problem: Before this patch was done to correct the way Sub Totals work, the client would do 5-nested sub totals and Excel would put 5-Grand Total rows at the bottom, all with the same number. Since the patch, there is only one Grand Totals row at the bottom. Is this working as designed? Why the change? Thank you for any responses. -- Brenda |
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Grand Totals with Nested Sub Totals
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Multilevel subtotals are in the wrong position in Excel 2002 and in Excel 2003 http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;831824 Brenda from Michigan wrote: User has Excel 2002 (10.6834.6830) SP3 We have applied patch KB892097 and have done a Registry fix that this patch appears to require. Problem: Before this patch was done to correct the way Sub Totals work, the client would do 5-nested sub totals and Excel would put 5-Grand Total rows at the bottom, all with the same number. Since the patch, there is only one Grand Totals row at the bottom. Is this working as designed? Why the change? Thank you for any responses. -- Brenda -- Dave Peterson |
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Grand Totals with Nested Sub Totals
Personally, I happen to agree. However, the fact is that before applying the
patch, I saw the evidence that a separate Grand Total was created for each separate sub-total that was run. The user wants to know why that is different after the patch. My intuition tells me it was incorrect the way it originally worked and it was 'fixed' with the patch. The user wants me to find out why it was changed if possible. Thank you for your input. -- Brenda "Tyro" wrote: A Grand Total is just that. One total for the numbers above it. That's why it's called a "Grand Total". As in: 5, 3 Subtotal 8. 4, 7 Subtotal 11. Grand Total 19 Why would you want to see: 5, 3 Subtotal 8. 4, 7 Subtotal 11. Grand Total 19. Grand Total 19 Tyro "Brenda from Michigan" wrote in message ... User has Excel 2002 (10.6834.6830) SP3 We have applied patch KB892097 and have done a Registry fix that this patch appears to require. Problem: Before this patch was done to correct the way Sub Totals work, the client would do 5-nested sub totals and Excel would put 5-Grand Total rows at the bottom, all with the same number. Since the patch, there is only one Grand Totals row at the bottom. Is this working as designed? Why the change? Thank you for any responses. -- Brenda |
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Grand Totals with Nested Sub Totals
"Grand Totals" should occur only once in the totaling process. That is why
they are called "Grand Totals" - i.e. summation of all lower minor and intermediate totals. Tyro "Brenda from Michigan" wrote in message ... Personally, I happen to agree. However, the fact is that before applying the patch, I saw the evidence that a separate Grand Total was created for each separate sub-total that was run. The user wants to know why that is different after the patch. My intuition tells me it was incorrect the way it originally worked and it was 'fixed' with the patch. The user wants me to find out why it was changed if possible. Thank you for your input. -- Brenda "Tyro" wrote: A Grand Total is just that. One total for the numbers above it. That's why it's called a "Grand Total". As in: 5, 3 Subtotal 8. 4, 7 Subtotal 11. Grand Total 19 Why would you want to see: 5, 3 Subtotal 8. 4, 7 Subtotal 11. Grand Total 19. Grand Total 19 Tyro "Brenda from Michigan" wrote in message ... User has Excel 2002 (10.6834.6830) SP3 We have applied patch KB892097 and have done a Registry fix that this patch appears to require. Problem: Before this patch was done to correct the way Sub Totals work, the client would do 5-nested sub totals and Excel would put 5-Grand Total rows at the bottom, all with the same number. Since the patch, there is only one Grand Totals row at the bottom. Is this working as designed? Why the change? Thank you for any responses. -- Brenda |
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Grand Totals with Nested Sub Totals
The patch corrected the appearance of multiple "Grand Totals". As I said,
"Grand Totals" appear only once. Having them appear multiple times serves no purpose Tyro "Brenda from Michigan" wrote in message ... Personally, I happen to agree. However, the fact is that before applying the patch, I saw the evidence that a separate Grand Total was created for each separate sub-total that was run. The user wants to know why that is different after the patch. My intuition tells me it was incorrect the way it originally worked and it was 'fixed' with the patch. The user wants me to find out why it was changed if possible. Thank you for your input. -- Brenda "Tyro" wrote: A Grand Total is just that. One total for the numbers above it. That's why it's called a "Grand Total". As in: 5, 3 Subtotal 8. 4, 7 Subtotal 11. Grand Total 19 Why would you want to see: 5, 3 Subtotal 8. 4, 7 Subtotal 11. Grand Total 19. Grand Total 19 Tyro "Brenda from Michigan" wrote in message ... User has Excel 2002 (10.6834.6830) SP3 We have applied patch KB892097 and have done a Registry fix that this patch appears to require. Problem: Before this patch was done to correct the way Sub Totals work, the client would do 5-nested sub totals and Excel would put 5-Grand Total rows at the bottom, all with the same number. Since the patch, there is only one Grand Totals row at the bottom. Is this working as designed? Why the change? Thank you for any responses. -- Brenda |
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Grand Totals with Nested Sub Totals
Think of it like spending money. In week one, you spend x dollars on 20
items which you itemize in 20 rows. Then you put a total for week one. You repeat the process for weeks 2 through 52. So you have 52 weekly totals. At the end you have one "Grand Total" that sums the 52 weekly totals to tell you how much you spent in the 52 weeks. Tyro "Brenda from Michigan" wrote in message ... Personally, I happen to agree. However, the fact is that before applying the patch, I saw the evidence that a separate Grand Total was created for each separate sub-total that was run. The user wants to know why that is different after the patch. My intuition tells me it was incorrect the way it originally worked and it was 'fixed' with the patch. The user wants me to find out why it was changed if possible. Thank you for your input. -- Brenda "Tyro" wrote: A Grand Total is just that. One total for the numbers above it. That's why it's called a "Grand Total". As in: 5, 3 Subtotal 8. 4, 7 Subtotal 11. Grand Total 19 Why would you want to see: 5, 3 Subtotal 8. 4, 7 Subtotal 11. Grand Total 19. Grand Total 19 Tyro "Brenda from Michigan" wrote in message ... User has Excel 2002 (10.6834.6830) SP3 We have applied patch KB892097 and have done a Registry fix that this patch appears to require. Problem: Before this patch was done to correct the way Sub Totals work, the client would do 5-nested sub totals and Excel would put 5-Grand Total rows at the bottom, all with the same number. Since the patch, there is only one Grand Totals row at the bottom. Is this working as designed? Why the change? Thank you for any responses. -- Brenda |
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Grand Totals with Nested Sub Totals
The user asked me to pass along a message to you. The reason she liked
having separate Grand Totals is that it confirmed for her none of the numbers had changed. When I "speculated" that having those multiple Grand Totals was really an error that Microsoft had corrected with the patch answered her question as to why it now looks different. Dave's link gave us the option of a registry hack which caused the sub-totals feature to revert back to Excel 97/2000 functionality. She does not want to go backwards so declined that option. Thanks again to Dave and Tyro for your helpful input. -- Brenda "Tyro" wrote: Think of it like spending money. In week one, you spend x dollars on 20 items which you itemize in 20 rows. Then you put a total for week one. You repeat the process for weeks 2 through 52. So you have 52 weekly totals. At the end you have one "Grand Total" that sums the 52 weekly totals to tell you how much you spent in the 52 weeks. Tyro "Brenda from Michigan" wrote in message ... Personally, I happen to agree. However, the fact is that before applying the patch, I saw the evidence that a separate Grand Total was created for each separate sub-total that was run. The user wants to know why that is different after the patch. My intuition tells me it was incorrect the way it originally worked and it was 'fixed' with the patch. The user wants me to find out why it was changed if possible. Thank you for your input. -- Brenda "Tyro" wrote: A Grand Total is just that. One total for the numbers above it. That's why it's called a "Grand Total". As in: 5, 3 Subtotal 8. 4, 7 Subtotal 11. Grand Total 19 Why would you want to see: 5, 3 Subtotal 8. 4, 7 Subtotal 11. Grand Total 19. Grand Total 19 Tyro "Brenda from Michigan" wrote in message ... User has Excel 2002 (10.6834.6830) SP3 We have applied patch KB892097 and have done a Registry fix that this patch appears to require. Problem: Before this patch was done to correct the way Sub Totals work, the client would do 5-nested sub totals and Excel would put 5-Grand Total rows at the bottom, all with the same number. Since the patch, there is only one Grand Totals row at the bottom. Is this working as designed? Why the change? Thank you for any responses. -- Brenda |
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