Ok, I looked through what you have and I get what you are saying about deleting from the bottom up, I think. What I have does the sort and then goes down row by row and does the deletes, I am just not sure how to reverse the process to delete from the bottom up. I understand some of the basics of VBA but some of this is at the limits of what I understand, I just pulled pieces of thing from the two books I have and this site and my own basic knowledge, and I have gotten this far, but if you could be a little more specific with how to modify what I have to reverse the process it would be helpful. I am not looking for just answers, because this is somehting I am trying to learn and become more proficient at, I want to understand how and why, I just need a little extra guidance

Thanks

Mike