I'm sorry to hear you were wronged that way. I agree that we should put
ourselves in other people's shoes and not judge people too harshly, but at
the same time we still have to try to do the right thing. I didn't mean to
start an argument or take the thread in a combative direction. If I've
offended anyone I apologize. I would like to encourage ziploc_chik to be
honest with her interviewer about her capabilities. Say that she's
unfamiliar with Excel but is a quick learner and is willing to commit to
courses or training, just like she said in the post. I think having an
interview scheduled means she already has a lot going for her, (she must have
already made a good impression and seems very confident,) and they'll respect
her even more for being upfront. (Which would be better than discovering
later that she "fibbed a bit".) Best of luck, ziploc_chik! Best wishes!

"John C" wrote:

Like I said, I don't condone it, I wouldn't do it, but the saying goes that
until you have walked in another person's shoes.

For example, I would never steal anything, however, if I were starving, had
no money, and no hope of getting money in the near future for food, could I
still say I would never steal something and thus starve to death? I don't
mean to be so dramatic, but you really can't say what you would or wouldn't
do unless you were under the same circumstances.

Just an FYI, I know that I have lost out on 2 positions in the past because
someone else with supposed similar qualifications was chosen over me, then,
after I was employed elsewhere, those companies had to go back and hire
again. So I have been on the wrong end.
--
John C


"CTURNER82" wrote:

Sorry, but I think there are such things as right and wrong, regardless of
circumstances. I sincerely hope that you're never affected the way my
company was. Best wishes!

"John C" wrote:

Not that I am condoning what this person did, all that we've said, there may
be mitigating circumstances. Long term unemployment, the hiring company had a
lack of other qualified candidates, job necessary to support sick family, etc.

I am not condoning the fib, but in this economy, I know that desperate times
may call for desperate measures.
Let he/she who has no sin cast the first stone....
--
John C


"CTURNER82" wrote:

I'm encouraged to see people actually taking a stand for good workplace (and
life) ethics. Our company was damaged by a liar ("fib" is a cute word for
something so ugly) and like someone mentioned earlier, our time was wasted,
other qualified applicants missed out on an opportunity, and now it's hard to
trust people and open up to potentially another fraud. I also think it's
insulting to those who are experts at Excel (which I'm definitely not!) to
assume you can learn it all in a week.

"Don Guillett" wrote:

Just one of the things wrong with our society today.
"Everyone fibs a BIT on their resumé"
--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software

"ziploc_chik" wrote in message
...
Oh please.... spare me. Everyone fibs a BIT on their resumé. I've taught
myself the basics of other Microsoft software in an evening. I'm sure
Excel
basics can't take more than a week. I'm a clever cookie. ;P

"Don Guillett" wrote:

Do you really think it fair to yourself or your employer to apply for a
job
you are unqualified for.

--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software

"ziploc_chik" wrote in message
...
I've got a job interview for an office administration position in a
week's
time. I've said that I'm familiar with all Microsoft Office
applications
which is a bit of an exaggeration as I have never really used Excel
that
much.

I have been using the MSN tutorials online and I'm finding them very
user-friendly, and easy to follow. However, there are almost forty
different
lessons and I won't have time to do them all. During my interview I
have
been told I will be sitting a 20 minute test on Excel... which of the
lessons
would you suggest as the most necessary to study??

Kind thanks.