Ok Jim, I see that thank you very much.

I see how they haven't taken a lot of the flexibility out of the new program
.. . . I'll be a bit more patient until I get a "full feel" of the setup.

Thanks again.
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paul


"Jim Rech" wrote:

I HATE the ribbon

The ribbon is here to stay to the foreseeable future

I can't even figure out how | to get various toolbars up

There are no 'various toolbars'. It's all on the ribbon (or whatever you
put on the QAT).

namely the form toolbar

To get the old Forms toolbar controls click the Insert control on the
Developer tab. If you do not see the Developer tab click Excel Options on
the Office button menu (the circle in the top left corner of Excel). Once
the Options dialog is open click Show Developer tab on the Popular tab.
Really, can it be more intuitive?<g

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Jim
"pglufkin" wrote in message
...
| Is there any plan to incorporate an "Excel 2003 Menu type" structure
within
| Excel 2007 as a different version of Excel 2007. I HATE the ribbon . . .
..
| after thirty minutes of precious time searching, I can't even figure out
how
| to get various toolbars up (namely the form toolbar).
|
| Do they even have the toolbar assumption anymore with this gawdy ribbon
| taking up all the space?
| --
| paul