Hi Arran

Bad thinking on my part,
Change =4 to 2.


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Regards

Roger Govier


"Arran" wrote in message
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Hello again Roger

Interesting things happened when I entered you last version. The
changes for
text or numeric zeros work seamlessly. With *AND*when true set at 4,
any data
entered in A1 that was 1st, 2nd etc through to 9th, returned in B1
with A1
format eg 1st 2nd through 9th & was left alined. But any thing higher
in
A1(10th - 31st) returned in B1 just 10 -31 & was right alined.
Interestingly
when I changed the *AND* when true to 3 the reverse happened. When
changed
to 2 everything was suffixed as they where entered in A1 and left
alined. Was
this what you expcected?

Regards
Arran

"Roger Govier" wrote:

Hi Arran

Thank you for responding and giving details of what you tried, and
the
results you achieved.

If we amend the formula slightly, and make the test for 0 different,
one
formula should serve all cases.
Test for the ASCII code value of the cell being 48 (code for 0) then
it
will deal with Text zero or Numeric 0

=IF(A1="",REPT("B",6),
IF(CODE(LEFT(A1))=48,
REPT("Z",6),IF(AND(LEN(A1)=4,ISNUMBER(--LEFT(A1))),
--(LEFT(A1,LEN(A1)-2)),A1)))

I also added an AND to the test of whether the value in cell A1
started
with a number to ensure it was 4 characters in length to deal only
with
ordinals (where we first started) and not to fail if there is a
straightforward number other than 0 in the cell.


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Regards

Roger Govier


"Arran" wrote in message
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Hi Roger
Yes it was what I wanted, in part. I played around with it using
different
preformatted cell conditions. As long as A1 was blank *zzzzz* was
returned in
B1(helper Col). But I neglected to remember that A1 would be
populated
by
*=cell reference to another sheet*. Resulting zero's in A1 caused
*#VALUE* to
be returned in B1. Tried various other different variations of
formula
and
preformatted cell conditions and came up with the below.They all
return
*BBBBB* or *ZZZZ* in B1 when A1 is blank or contains a zero, BUT
ANY
ONE
FORMULA DID NOT WORK UNDER ALL CELL FORMATTING CONDITIONS.

This worked when A1 is preformatted as TEXT
=IF(A1="",REPT("B",6),IF(A1="0",REPT("Z",6),IF(ISN UMBER(--LEFT(A1)),--(LEFT(A1,LEN(A1)-2)),A1)))

This worked when A1 is preformatted as NUMBER or DATE, (though in
the
DATE
senario the results looked messy when zero in A1, as I normaly have
"Zero
Values" deselected it looks OK
=IF(A1="",REPT("B",6),IF(A1=0,REPT("Z",6),IF(ISNUM BER(--LEFT(A1)),--(LEFT(A1,LEN(A1)-2)),A1)))

Apologies for long winded mature of this reply but as an
inexperienced
Excel
user I have often read posts & replies that are useful / applicable
but they
often don't have enough detail for me to implement. In a lot of
cases
its
assummed the OP knows what they are doing. HA HA. So this is my
attempt to
help other newbies in the future.
All I now have to do is figure out how to pick out / delete the
data I
want
in or from ColA!!!! Have seen possible suggestions posted on this
group.

Many thanks for all your help, very much appreciated

Arran



"Roger Govier" wrote:

Hi Arran

Try the following
=IF(A1="",REPT("Z",255),IF(ISNUMBER(--LEFT(A1)),--(LEFT(A1,LEN(A1)-2)),A1))
This will make empty cells have 255 Z's in the helper column, and
they
will sort to the end of the list
Text cells will be left exactly as they are.
Is this what you wanted?
If you want the blank cells to the top of the list, then change
the
"REPT("Z",255) to 0


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Regards

Roger Govier


"Arran" wrote in message
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Hoping this thread is not yet dead as I would like to expand on
it.
What changes are required to the formula below, so that when
there
is
just
text (abcde etc) rather than alpanumeric (25th) in A12 that I
get
the
desired
"0" returned rather than"#Value" that I am getting.

=IF(A120,--(LEFT(A12,LEN(A12)-2)),0)

Taking this one step further. There will be random blank cells
in
ColA
so
what would have to be added to the formula so that the sorted
list
is
displayed from the top of the sorted range down rather than the
bottom up.

Help is always humbly received
"Roger Govier" wrote:

You're very welcome. Thanks for the feedback.

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Regards

Roger Govier


"Arran" wrote in message
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Roger, many thanks that worked like a dream.

"Roger Govier" wrote:

Hi Arran

Try using a helper column. In the helper column, enter
=--(LEFT(A1,LEN(A1)-2))
and copy down as far as required.
Mark both columns and sort by the helper column.

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Regards

Roger Govier


"Arran" wrote in message
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I cant seem to sort 25th 10th 30th 21st 2nd etc entered
data
to
display
as
2nd 10th 21st 25th 30th in descending . All cells have
been
formated
as text
before data entered. I am using Excel 2003