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Default Is it possible to group parts with controls?

I created a setup sheet with controls on it. I want to group (collapse) one
portion of it which will not always be used. I tried to group it but the
controls did not go away when the rows were collapsed. Is it not possible to
do this? I played with unlocking them, then in properties I don't have the
option to move and size with cells. It's dimmed out.