frustrating. that doesn't work either. I tried all sorts of different
versions. changing from enabled=false to enabled=true, or
visible=false to visible=true, but none of that worked.

the annoying thing is it all works when i try it by stepping through.
In fact, i have even added a line:

msgbox userform1.optionbutton6.enabled

when i step through, it reports the number that i would expect, but
when i run it in real time it always reports false.

I am stuck.