Thank u very much indeed..........

cdbl solved the problem and i now understand the difference between

val(10000) with format TextBox1.Value = Format(TextBox1.Value,
"#,##0.000")
appears as 10

and

CDbl(10000) with format TextBox1.Value = Format(TextBox1.Value,
"#,##0.000")
appears as 10,000.000


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