We might be at cross purposes here.

Most properties of a grouped item can be changed as per your example for a
grouped control. However, referring to the OP's question, if you know how to
change the text in a grouped item (textframe) without ungrouping I'd also be
pleased to know.

Regards,
Peter T


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to get to an shape of a group use:

say you have a "group 4"(or whatever you call it), and that contains a
"textbox 3" which needs anew value of 333.

Activesheet.Shapes("Group 4").GroupItems("TextBox
3").ControlFormat.Value = 333

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