Then Designer is not initialized. You'll have to find out why not. BTW, what
is Designer? it is not ringing any bells for me.

"lostthought " wrote in message
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that didn't work. I was already hiding UserForm1. The only time I unload
them is when cancel is pressed. I changed those to hide as well to see
if it would help but nothing. I looked inside the locals window and VBC
was blank to the right of it. There is a plus sing to the left and when
clicked it brings up a list of stuff. The only thing that says nothing
is Designer


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