Thanks Bob, but that doesn't work

We found the answer, it's meant to be referenced as an Object in the OLEObjects collection..

so while this is no good
SheetName.OLEObjects(SheetName.OLEObjects.Count).C aption = "test

this is ok
SheetName.OLEObjects(SheetName.OLEObjects.Count).O bject.Caption = "test

thanks anyway..

Philip