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Default Conditional format based on a different column

Hi,

How can I apply a conditional format to values in column Z if there is a
(text) value in column E? If there is no value in column E then apply no
format.
If value in column Z <2 no format; <4 background colour Gold, textfont
Black; 4 background colour Red textfont Black.

Thanks in advance,

AW
 
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