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Esradekan

sumif maybe?
 
lets try again.

Column Headers are (B1:P1) Staff 1 Staff 2 etc
A2:A27 is a date range (fortnightly dates range called "Date")
B2:B27 are figures relevant to the dates for Staff 1, staff 2 (C2:C27)
etc
I need to find the total value of the figures for each month.
I have January, February etc in C31:N21 (to December) and require the
totals for each staff member for each month. Staff members listed
B32:B61

Staff1 figures are named "Staff1", Staff2 are named "Staff2" etc.

what formula can i use?

TIA
Esra

Bob Phillips[_3_]

sumif maybe?
 
Stick to the one thread and stop wasting people's time by replicating
questions.

--
__________________________________
HTH

Bob

"Esradekan" wrote in message
...
lets try again.

Column Headers are (B1:P1) Staff 1 Staff 2 etc
A2:A27 is a date range (fortnightly dates range called "Date")
B2:B27 are figures relevant to the dates for Staff 1, staff 2 (C2:C27)
etc
I need to find the total value of the figures for each month.
I have January, February etc in C31:N21 (to December) and require the
totals for each staff member for each month. Staff members listed
B32:B61

Staff1 figures are named "Staff1", Staff2 are named "Staff2" etc.

what formula can i use?

TIA
Esra




Esradekan

sumif maybe?
 
On Aug 28, 8:08*pm, "Bob Phillips" wrote:
Stick to the one thread and stop wasting people's time by replicating
questions.

--
__________________________________
HTH

Bob

"Esradekan" wrote in message

...



lets try again.


Column Headers are (B1:P1) Staff 1 Staff 2 etc
A2:A27 is a date range (fortnightly dates range called "Date")
B2:B27 are figures relevant to the dates for Staff 1, staff 2 (C2:C27)
etc
I need to find the total value of the figures for each month.
I have January, February etc in C31:N21 (to December) and require the
totals for each staff member for each month. *Staff members listed
B32:B61


Staff1 figures are named "Staff1", Staff2 are named "Staff2" etc.


what formula can i use?


TIA
Esra- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -



Dont get uptight Bob, maybe if you had of answered my earlier post, I
wouldnt of thought that i wasnt so clear with that post and wouldnt
have decided to post again, trying to be clearer.

I appreciate your efforts in answering posts to this newsgroup, I
understand you probably dont have to, but Bob, I dont need 'abuse'
either. I have been polite with you, please be so with me. Dont
"tell" me, ask me. You get better results with sugar than you do with
vinegar.

I see you finally answered my post, I guess because you saw this one.
Im still no further ahead with this and your right, your solution did
not work.

Still TIA,
Esra

Don Guillett

sumif maybe?
 

Bob is absolutely correct in that you should stay in the original post.
Also, please top post. We answer questions here on a purely voluntary basis
and, if you want answers, you need to learn how to fully explain your
question the first time, with a layout posted and before/after examples. You
do yourself NO good by berating the person trying to help you.

If your date column is really dates and you only want the month then delete
the year part of Bob's formula. If you want for one then add that parameter
to the formula.

If desired, you may send your workbook to my address below along with
examples as stated and I will try to find time to take a look.

--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software

"Esradekan" wrote in message
...
On Aug 28, 8:08 pm, "Bob Phillips" wrote:
Stick to the one thread and stop wasting people's time by replicating
questions.

--
__________________________________
HTH

Bob

"Esradekan" wrote in message

...



lets try again.


Column Headers are (B1:P1) Staff 1 Staff 2 etc
A2:A27 is a date range (fortnightly dates range called "Date")
B2:B27 are figures relevant to the dates for Staff 1, staff 2 (C2:C27)
etc
I need to find the total value of the figures for each month.
I have January, February etc in C31:N21 (to December) and require the
totals for each staff member for each month. Staff members listed
B32:B61


Staff1 figures are named "Staff1", Staff2 are named "Staff2" etc.


what formula can i use?


TIA
Esra- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -



Dont get uptight Bob, maybe if you had of answered my earlier post, I
wouldnt of thought that i wasnt so clear with that post and wouldnt
have decided to post again, trying to be clearer.

I appreciate your efforts in answering posts to this newsgroup, I
understand you probably dont have to, but Bob, I dont need 'abuse'
either. I have been polite with you, please be so with me. Dont
"tell" me, ask me. You get better results with sugar than you do with
vinegar.

I see you finally answered my post, I guess because you saw this one.
Im still no further ahead with this and your right, your solution did
not work.

Still TIA,
Esra


Bob Phillips[_3_]

sumif maybe?
 
I am not getting uptight, I am just telling you how to conduct yourself in a
sensible manner if you want us to continue to give free help, we are under
no obligations to help, and it is up to you to conduct yourself in a manner
that does not antagonise those that you seek help from. Multiple threads
does not fit that description IMO.

If you think I was being abusive, I think you must have led a very sheltered
life. I was direct, but certainly not abusive.

And check the times on the previous post, you will see that all of my posts
in that thread are before your first post in this. So you clearly decided to
ignore my comment and open a new thread for what reason I know not.

I will now bow out, I wish you well in your search for a solution, but I
will not be participating in seeking it any further.

--
__________________________________
HTH

Bob

"Esradekan" wrote in message
...
On Aug 28, 8:08 pm, "Bob Phillips" wrote:
Stick to the one thread and stop wasting people's time by replicating
questions.

--
__________________________________
HTH

Bob

"Esradekan" wrote in message

...



lets try again.


Column Headers are (B1:P1) Staff 1 Staff 2 etc
A2:A27 is a date range (fortnightly dates range called "Date")
B2:B27 are figures relevant to the dates for Staff 1, staff 2 (C2:C27)
etc
I need to find the total value of the figures for each month.
I have January, February etc in C31:N21 (to December) and require the
totals for each staff member for each month. Staff members listed
B32:B61


Staff1 figures are named "Staff1", Staff2 are named "Staff2" etc.


what formula can i use?


TIA
Esra- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -



Dont get uptight Bob, maybe if you had of answered my earlier post, I
wouldnt of thought that i wasnt so clear with that post and wouldnt
have decided to post again, trying to be clearer.

I appreciate your efforts in answering posts to this newsgroup, I
understand you probably dont have to, but Bob, I dont need 'abuse'
either. I have been polite with you, please be so with me. Dont
"tell" me, ask me. You get better results with sugar than you do with
vinegar.

I see you finally answered my post, I guess because you saw this one.
Im still no further ahead with this and your right, your solution did
not work.

Still TIA,
Esra



Esradekan

sumif maybe?
 
Firstly Bob, what does IMO mean?

Secondly, everybody must 'learn' how to post, wether its top or
bottom, seems trivial to me but if thats your preference i will do
so. Thirdly, I simply was just trying to explain myself a bit better,
wasnt it your words "but I do not understand the deetails." Therefore
I dont see the problem. Your comment to me was one of TELLING me, not
asking me (therefore abusive in manner) which of course I would have
done had the roles been reversed. How do you know if I know about
ettiquette or not? Only fair.

But thats OK Bob, I will take the blame for what went wrong - a simple
case of misinterpretation of what you said. Guess it happens when we
are a global society huh?

Esra


On Aug 29, 9:12*am, "Bob Phillips" wrote:
I am not getting uptight, I am just telling you how to conduct yourself in a
sensible manner if you want us to continue to give free help, we are under
no obligations to help, and it is up to you to conduct yourself in a manner
that does not antagonise those that you seek help from. Multiple threads
does not fit that description IMO.

If you think I was being abusive, I think you must have led a very sheltered
life. I was direct, but certainly not abusive.

And check the times on the previous post, you will see that all of my posts
in that thread are before your first post in this. So you clearly decided to
ignore my comment and open a new thread for what reason I know not.

I will now bow out, I wish you well in your search for a solution, but I
will not be participating in seeking it any further.

--
__________________________________
HTH

Bob

"Esradekan" wrote in message

...
On Aug 28, 8:08 pm, "Bob Phillips" wrote:





Stick to the one thread and stop wasting people's time by replicating
questions.


--
__________________________________
HTH


Bob


"Esradekan" wrote in message


....


lets try again.


Column Headers are (B1:P1) Staff 1 Staff 2 etc
A2:A27 is a date range (fortnightly dates range called "Date")
B2:B27 are figures relevant to the dates for Staff 1, staff 2 (C2:C27)
etc
I need to find the total value of the figures for each month.
I have January, February etc in C31:N21 (to December) and require the
totals for each staff member for each month. Staff members listed
B32:B61


Staff1 figures are named "Staff1", Staff2 are named "Staff2" etc.


what formula can i use?


TIA
Esra- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Dont get uptight Bob, maybe if you had of answered my earlier post, I
wouldnt of thought that i wasnt so clear with that post and wouldnt
have decided to post again, trying to be clearer.

I appreciate your efforts in answering posts to this newsgroup, I
understand you probably dont have to, but Bob, I dont need 'abuse'
either. *I have been polite with you, please be so with me. *Dont
"tell" me, ask me. *You get better results with sugar than you do with
vinegar.

I see you finally answered my post, I guess because you saw this one.
Im still no further ahead with this and your right, your solution did
not work.

Still TIA,
Esra- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



Peo Sjoblom[_2_]

sumif maybe?
 


IMO = In My Opinion.

The thing with multiposting is that sometimes you spend a lot of time and
effort to help someone with a complicated problem, you post it only to
discover that the OP (original poster) has post the same question again
where 2 other people have spend considerable effort and maybe time as well
to come up with the same answer. I can tell you it doesn't feel good. You
shouldn't post again unless you don't get any answer at all in maybe 24
hours. All people in these newsgroups/forums do it for free and are not in
any way associated with Microsoft. Secondly by posting the same question
twice you will screw up the indexing somewhat for the search engines that
other people can use to find the answers. Since most of the regulars are
using newsreaders your original post won't disappear the same way it does in
a web forum. You are not the worst offender far from it, some people think
it is a marvelous idea to put URGENT in the subject line and post the same
question in multiple newsgroups/forums that really ticks me off.

Anyway hope this help in your understanding of why some regulars (and Bob is
certainly one of the most knowledgeable and frequent posters when it comes
to answering questions) get somewhat irritable when people multipost.

Here are some hints and tips done way back but still current.

http://www.cpearson.com/Excel/newposte.htm



--


Regards,


Peo Sjoblom



"Esradekan" wrote in message
...
Firstly Bob, what does IMO mean?

Secondly, everybody must 'learn' how to post, wether its top or
bottom, seems trivial to me but if thats your preference i will do
so. Thirdly, I simply was just trying to explain myself a bit better,
wasnt it your words "but I do not understand the deetails." Therefore
I dont see the problem. Your comment to me was one of TELLING me, not
asking me (therefore abusive in manner) which of course I would have
done had the roles been reversed. How do you know if I know about
ettiquette or not? Only fair.

But thats OK Bob, I will take the blame for what went wrong - a simple
case of misinterpretation of what you said. Guess it happens when we
are a global society huh?

Esra


On Aug 29, 9:12 am, "Bob Phillips" wrote:
I am not getting uptight, I am just telling you how to conduct yourself in
a
sensible manner if you want us to continue to give free help, we are under
no obligations to help, and it is up to you to conduct yourself in a
manner
that does not antagonise those that you seek help from. Multiple threads
does not fit that description IMO.

If you think I was being abusive, I think you must have led a very
sheltered
life. I was direct, but certainly not abusive.

And check the times on the previous post, you will see that all of my
posts
in that thread are before your first post in this. So you clearly decided
to
ignore my comment and open a new thread for what reason I know not.

I will now bow out, I wish you well in your search for a solution, but I
will not be participating in seeking it any further.

--
__________________________________
HTH

Bob

"Esradekan" wrote in message

...
On Aug 28, 8:08 pm, "Bob Phillips" wrote:





Stick to the one thread and stop wasting people's time by replicating
questions.


--
__________________________________
HTH


Bob


"Esradekan" wrote in message


...


lets try again.


Column Headers are (B1:P1) Staff 1 Staff 2 etc
A2:A27 is a date range (fortnightly dates range called "Date")
B2:B27 are figures relevant to the dates for Staff 1, staff 2 (C2:C27)
etc
I need to find the total value of the figures for each month.
I have January, February etc in C31:N21 (to December) and require the
totals for each staff member for each month. Staff members listed
B32:B61


Staff1 figures are named "Staff1", Staff2 are named "Staff2" etc.


what formula can i use?


TIA
Esra- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Dont get uptight Bob, maybe if you had of answered my earlier post, I
wouldnt of thought that i wasnt so clear with that post and wouldnt
have decided to post again, trying to be clearer.

I appreciate your efforts in answering posts to this newsgroup, I
understand you probably dont have to, but Bob, I dont need 'abuse'
either. I have been polite with you, please be so with me. Dont
"tell" me, ask me. You get better results with sugar than you do with
vinegar.

I see you finally answered my post, I guess because you saw this one.
Im still no further ahead with this and your right, your solution did
not work.

Still TIA,
Esra- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -




Esradekan

sumif maybe?
 
Thank you, all I can say is "most informative",,,and of course I will
heed this.

Esra



On Aug 29, 10:07*am, "Peo Sjoblom" wrote:
IMO = In My Opinion.

The thing with multiposting is that sometimes you spend a lot of time and
effort to help someone with a complicated problem, you post it only to
discover that the OP (original poster) has post the same question again
where 2 other people have spend considerable effort and maybe time as well
to come up with the same answer. I can tell you it doesn't feel good. You
shouldn't post again unless you don't get any answer at all in maybe 24
hours. All people in these newsgroups/forums do it for free and are not in
any way associated with Microsoft. Secondly by posting the same question
twice you will screw up the indexing somewhat for the search engines that
other people can use to find the answers. Since most of the regulars are
using newsreaders your original post won't disappear the same way it does in
a web forum. You are not the worst offender far from it, some people think
it is a marvelous idea to put URGENT in the subject line and post the same
question in multiple newsgroups/forums that really ticks me off.

Anyway hope this help in your understanding of why some regulars (and Bob is
certainly one of the most knowledgeable and frequent posters when it comes
to answering questions) get somewhat irritable when people multipost.

Here are some hints and tips done way back but still current.

http://www.cpearson.com/Excel/newposte.htm

--

Regards,

Peo Sjoblom

"Esradekan" wrote in message

...
Firstly Bob, what does IMO mean?

Secondly, everybody must 'learn' how to post, wether its top or
bottom, seems trivial to me but if thats your preference i will do
so. *Thirdly, I simply was just trying to explain myself a bit better,
wasnt it your words "but I do not understand the deetails." *Therefore
I dont see the problem. *Your comment to me was one of TELLING me, not
asking me (therefore abusive in manner) which of course I would have
done had the roles been reversed. *How do you know if I know about
ettiquette or not? *Only fair.

But thats OK Bob, I will take the blame for what went wrong - a simple
case of misinterpretation of what you said. *Guess it happens when we
are a global society huh?

Esra

On Aug 29, 9:12 am, "Bob Phillips" wrote:



I am not getting uptight, I am just telling you how to conduct yourself in
a
sensible manner if you want us to continue to give free help, we are under
no obligations to help, and it is up to you to conduct yourself in a
manner
that does not antagonise those that you seek help from. Multiple threads
does not fit that description IMO.


If you think I was being abusive, I think you must have led a very
sheltered
life. I was direct, but certainly not abusive.


And check the times on the previous post, you will see that all of my
posts
in that thread are before your first post in this. So you clearly decided
to
ignore my comment and open a new thread for what reason I know not.


I will now bow out, I wish you well in your search for a solution, but I
will not be participating in seeking it any further.


--
__________________________________
HTH


Bob


"Esradekan" wrote in message


....
On Aug 28, 8:08 pm, "Bob Phillips" wrote:


Stick to the one thread and stop wasting people's time by replicating
questions.


--
__________________________________
HTH


Bob


"Esradekan" wrote in message


....


lets try again.


Column Headers are (B1:P1) Staff 1 Staff 2 etc
A2:A27 is a date range (fortnightly dates range called "Date")
B2:B27 are figures relevant to the dates for Staff 1, staff 2 (C2:C27)
etc
I need to find the total value of the figures for each month.
I have January, February etc in C31:N21 (to December) and require the
totals for each staff member for each month. Staff members listed
B32:B61


Staff1 figures are named "Staff1", Staff2 are named "Staff2" etc.


what formula can i use?


TIA
Esra- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Dont get uptight Bob, maybe if you had of answered my earlier post, I
wouldnt of thought that i wasnt so clear with that post and wouldnt
have decided to post again, trying to be clearer.


I appreciate your efforts in answering posts to this newsgroup, I
understand you probably dont have to, but Bob, I dont need 'abuse'
either. I have been polite with you, please be so with me. Dont
"tell" me, ask me. You get better results with sugar than you do with
vinegar.


I see you finally answered my post, I guess because you saw this one.
Im still no further ahead with this and your right, your solution did
not work.


Still TIA,
Esra- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -



smartin

sumif maybe? [OT]
 
Don Guillett wrote:

[much snipped]
Also, please top post.


[OT]

I usually refrain from participating in top- vs bottom-posting debacles,
but I do not recall any mention of a "top posting rule" here. Or is that
your personal preference?

Both methods have merit. IME, in technical discussions the latter is
preferred and more natural.

YMMV.

Esradekan

sumif maybe? [OT]
 
On Aug 29, 3:11*pm, smartin wrote:
Don Guillett wrote:

[much snipped]

Also, please top post.


[OT]

I usually refrain from participating in top- vs bottom-posting debacles,
but I do not recall any mention of a "top posting rule" here. Or is that
your personal preference?

Both methods have merit. IME, in technical discussions the latter is
preferred and more natural.

YMMV.


Writing from the right is natural for chinese people too
Whats natural for one may not be for others.
Just a thought.

Esra

David Biddulph[_2_]

sumif maybe? [OT]
 
Top-posting has been the widely accepted preference on the Excel newsgroups
for some time.

http://www.cpearson.com/excel/newposte.htm
http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/posting.htm
for two references.
--
David Biddulph

"smartin" wrote in message
...
Don Guillett wrote:

[much snipped]
Also, please top post.


[OT]

I usually refrain from participating in top- vs bottom-posting debacles,
but I do not recall any mention of a "top posting rule" here. Or is that
your personal preference?

Both methods have merit. IME, in technical discussions the latter is
preferred and more natural.

YMMV.




Don Guillett

sumif maybe? [OT]
 

If you think about it, it is NOT natural to have to page down to the bottom
to read a post. With top posting it's right in front of you. Most here
agree. Some don't....
--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software

"smartin" wrote in message
...
Don Guillett wrote:

[much snipped]
Also, please top post.


[OT]

I usually refrain from participating in top- vs bottom-posting debacles,
but I do not recall any mention of a "top posting rule" here. Or is that
your personal preference?

Both methods have merit. IME, in technical discussions the latter is
preferred and more natural.

YMMV.



Esradekan

sumif maybe? [OT]
 
But what about the thought that if you read the 'whole' of the posts
to see what has been happening - so to speak - its natural to read the
original post first, at the top, and then following posts after that.

But it doesnt matter, whatever you guys think is best I will do. I DO
still need a solution for my original question and I think this thread
is getting way off topic.

Esra



On Aug 30, 12:21*am, "Don Guillett" wrote:
If you think about it, it is NOT natural to have to page down to the bottom
to read a post. With top posting it's right in front of you. Most here
agree. Some don't....
--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software
"smartin" wrote in message

...



Don Guillett wrote:


[much snipped]
Also, please top post.


[OT]


I usually refrain from participating in top- vs bottom-posting debacles,
but I do not recall any mention of a "top posting rule" here. Or is that
your personal preference?


Both methods have merit. IME, in technical discussions the latter is
preferred and more natural.


YMMV.- Hide quoted


Esradekan

sumif maybe? [OT]
 
You know something, I have learnt a thing or two here this time
around. I was relatively new at posting here, just for the odd thing
now and again. I post using google and during the process of viewing
the posts, I displayed them differently. NOW I can see the merits of
top posting. It does make sense. I also never meant to **** anybody
off and it wouild seem I have done that. I always treat people how
they treat me. So if your one of the people I have ****ed off, I
apologise. Hell I never even knew the subject line had been changed
of the thread (OT). Im still learning and i guess I always will be
learning.

I do though, still need a simple formula. I have changed my worksheet
around to be more 'user friendly', but the original problem still
exists, cells I can change to suit. Im not very experienced like you
guys in Excel, but I do have that knowledge to do that. I hope that
someone can qustill help me.

Again, TIA
Esra



On Aug 30, 9:44*am, Esradekan wrote:
But what about the thought that if you read the 'whole' of the posts
to see what has been happening - so to speak - its natural to read the
original post first, at the top, and then following posts after that.

But it doesnt matter, whatever you guys think is best I will do. *I DO
still need a solution for my original question and I think this thread
is getting way off topic.

Esra

On Aug 30, 12:21*am, "Don Guillett" wrote:



If you think about it, it is NOT natural to have to page down to the bottom
to read a post. With top posting it's right in front of you. Most here
agree. Some don't....
--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software
"smartin" wrote in message


m...


Don Guillett wrote:


[much snipped]
Also, please top post.


[OT]


I usually refrain from participating in top- vs bottom-posting debacles,
but I do not recall any mention of a "top posting rule" here. Or is that
your personal preference?


Both methods have merit. IME, in technical discussions the latter is
preferred and more natural.


YMMV.- Hide qustill help me.


Again, TIA
Esra

Don Guillett

sumif maybe? [OT]
 

Let's see. As I recall, in an earlier post of mine I offered to take a look.
IF.....
--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software

"Esradekan" wrote in message
...
You know something, I have learnt a thing or two here this time
around. I was relatively new at posting here, just for the odd thing
now and again. I post using google and during the process of viewing
the posts, I displayed them differently. NOW I can see the merits of
top posting. It does make sense. I also never meant to **** anybody
off and it wouild seem I have done that. I always treat people how
they treat me. So if your one of the people I have ****ed off, I
apologise. Hell I never even knew the subject line had been changed
of the thread (OT). Im still learning and i guess I always will be
learning.

I do though, still need a simple formula. I have changed my worksheet
around to be more 'user friendly', but the original problem still
exists, cells I can change to suit. Im not very experienced like you
guys in Excel, but I do have that knowledge to do that. I hope that
someone can qustill help me.

Again, TIA
Esra



On Aug 30, 9:44 am, Esradekan wrote:
But what about the thought that if you read the 'whole' of the posts
to see what has been happening - so to speak - its natural to read the
original post first, at the top, and then following posts after that.

But it doesnt matter, whatever you guys think is best I will do. I DO
still need a solution for my original question and I think this thread
is getting way off topic.

Esra

On Aug 30, 12:21 am, "Don Guillett" wrote:



If you think about it, it is NOT natural to have to page down to the
bottom
to read a post. With top posting it's right in front of you. Most here
agree. Some don't....
--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software
"smartin" wrote in
message


m...


Don Guillett wrote:


[much snipped]
Also, please top post.


[OT]


I usually refrain from participating in top- vs bottom-posting
debacles,
but I do not recall any mention of a "top posting rule" here. Or is
that
your personal preference?


Both methods have merit. IME, in technical discussions the latter is
preferred and more natural.


YMMV.- Hide qustill help me.


Again, TIA
Esra


Esradekan

sumif maybe? [OT]
 
Yes and I emailed you the workbook, assumed you didnt get time to look
at it, because that was yesterday. I thank you for the offer.

Esra
TIA

On Aug 30,



10:36*am, "Don Guillett" wrote:
Let's see. As I recall, in an earlier post of mine I offered to take a look.
IF.....
--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software
"Esradekan" wrote in message

...
You know something, I have learnt a thing or two here this time
around. *I was relatively new at posting here, just for the odd thing
now and again. *I post using google and during the process of viewing
the posts, I displayed them differently. *NOW I can see the merits of
top posting. *It does make sense. *I also never meant to **** anybody
off and it wouild seem I have done that. *I always treat people how
they treat me. *So if your one of the people I have ****ed off, I
apologise. *Hell I never even knew the subject line had been changed
of the thread (OT). *Im still learning and i guess I always will be
learning.

I do though, still need a simple formula. *I have changed my worksheet
around to be more 'user friendly', but the original problem still
exists, cells I can change to suit. *Im not very experienced like you
guys in Excel, but I do have that knowledge to do that. *I hope that
someone can qustill help me.

Again, TIA
Esra

On Aug 30, 9:44 am, Esradekan wrote:





But what about the thought that if you read the 'whole' of the posts
to see what has been happening - so to speak - its natural to read the
original post first, at the top, and then following posts after that.


But it doesnt matter, whatever you guys think is best I will do. I DO
still need a solution for my original question and I think this thread
is getting way off topic.


Esra


On Aug 30, 12:21 am, "Don Guillett" wrote:


If you think about it, it is NOT natural to have to page down to the
bottom
to read a post. With top posting it's right in front of you. Most here
agree. Some don't....
--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software
"smartin" wrote in
message


m...


Don Guillett wrote:


[much snipped]
Also, please top post.


[OT]


I usually refrain from participating in top- vs bottom-posting
debacles,
but I do not recall any mention of a "top posting rule" here. Or is
that
your personal preference?


Both methods have merit. IME, in technical discussions the latter is
preferred and more natural.


YMMV.- Hide qustill help me.


Again, TIA
Esra- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



Don Guillett

sumif maybe? [OT]
 
Apparently it became lost in cyberland because I never saw it. Care to
re-send and I'll take a look tomorrow.

--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software

"Esradekan" wrote in message
...
Yes and I emailed you the workbook, assumed you didnt get time to look
at it, because that was yesterday. I thank you for the offer.

Esra
TIA

On Aug 30,



10:36 am, "Don Guillett" wrote:
Let's see. As I recall, in an earlier post of mine I offered to take a
look.
IF.....
--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software
"Esradekan" wrote in message

...
You know something, I have learnt a thing or two here this time
around. I was relatively new at posting here, just for the odd thing
now and again. I post using google and during the process of viewing
the posts, I displayed them differently. NOW I can see the merits of
top posting. It does make sense. I also never meant to **** anybody
off and it wouild seem I have done that. I always treat people how
they treat me. So if your one of the people I have ****ed off, I
apologise. Hell I never even knew the subject line had been changed
of the thread (OT). Im still learning and i guess I always will be
learning.

I do though, still need a simple formula. I have changed my worksheet
around to be more 'user friendly', but the original problem still
exists, cells I can change to suit. Im not very experienced like you
guys in Excel, but I do have that knowledge to do that. I hope that
someone can qustill help me.

Again, TIA
Esra

On Aug 30, 9:44 am, Esradekan wrote:





But what about the thought that if you read the 'whole' of the posts
to see what has been happening - so to speak - its natural to read the
original post first, at the top, and then following posts after that.


But it doesnt matter, whatever you guys think is best I will do. I DO
still need a solution for my original question and I think this thread
is getting way off topic.


Esra


On Aug 30, 12:21 am, "Don Guillett" wrote:


If you think about it, it is NOT natural to have to page down to the
bottom
to read a post. With top posting it's right in front of you. Most here
agree. Some don't....
--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software
"smartin" wrote in
message


m...


Don Guillett wrote:


[much snipped]
Also, please top post.


[OT]


I usually refrain from participating in top- vs bottom-posting
debacles,
but I do not recall any mention of a "top posting rule" here. Or is
that
your personal preference?


Both methods have merit. IME, in technical discussions the latter is
preferred and more natural.


YMMV.- Hide qustill help me.


Again, TIA
Esra- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



smartin

sumif maybe? [OT]
 
Esradekan wrote:
On Aug 29, 3:11 pm, smartin wrote:
Don Guillett wrote:

[much snipped]

Also, please top post.

[OT]

I usually refrain from participating in top- vs bottom-posting debacles,
but I do not recall any mention of a "top posting rule" here. Or is that
your personal preference?

Both methods have merit. IME, in technical discussions the latter is
preferred and more natural.

YMMV.


Writing from the right is natural for chinese people too
Whats natural for one may not be for others.
Just a thought.

Esra


Esra, I'm not pointing this at you.

Placing a new paragraph /below/ the existing one is the way we all
write, with the exceptions that when writing on usenet or email many are
compelled to write the new paragraph /above/ the old ones. Why is this?

I think in rapid-fire electronic conversation top-posting works because
anyone involved in the discussion easily remembers the context; they do
not need to look through the history to understand what's going on.

On the other hand, these conversations are being committed indefinitely.
Someone may come across this conversation weeks or years later. If they
read this message from the top-down, they will easily understand my
position when they read these words. Had this conversation been all
top-posted, they would have to read the story from the bottom-up. How
natural is that?

I'm not just talking about this post, of course. This is just me
explaining why I prefer this over that, which admittedly is completely
off-topic here and I should and will stop soon.

What I am talking about in a larger sense is how we carry on
conversations in this and similar groups:

A question is asked.
A clarification is requested.
A clarification is provided.
A tentative solution is proffered.
Solution doesn't work. More information provided.
Another solution is offered.
Problem solved. Thanks!

How would you prefer to follow this discourse?

If it were top-posted all the way, at the top you see a solution with no
problem. You would have to read through the messages from the bottom up
just to understand the problem and the evolution of the solution. It's
not natural. At least, that is my view.

smartin

sumif maybe? [OT]
 
David Biddulph wrote:
Top-posting has been the widely accepted preference on the Excel newsgroups
for some time.

http://www.cpearson.com/excel/newposte.htm
http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/posting.htm
for two references.


The second reference is a parrot of the first.

I have all respect for Chip Pearson, but I disagree with him on this point.

Esradekan

sumif maybe? [OT]
 
Emailed again now, hopefully you will get it soon.

TY for your help.

Esra



On Aug 30, 11:16*am, "Don Guillett" wrote:
Apparently it became lost in cyberland because I never saw it. Care to
re-send and I'll take a look tomorrow.

--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software
"Esradekan" wrote in message

...
Yes and I emailed you the workbook, assumed you didnt get time to look
at it, because that was yesterday. *I thank you for the offer.

Esra
TIA

On Aug 30,

10:36 am, "Don Guillett" wrote:



Let's see. As I recall, in an earlier post of mine I offered to take a
look.
IF.....
--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software
"Esradekan" wrote in message


....
You know something, I have learnt a thing or two here this time
around. I was relatively new at posting here, just for the odd thing
now and again. I post using google and during the process of viewing
the posts, I displayed them differently. NOW I can see the merits of
top posting. It does make sense. I also never meant to **** anybody
off and it wouild seem I have done that. I always treat people how
they treat me. So if your one of the people I have ****ed off, I
apologise. Hell I never even knew the subject line had been changed
of the thread (OT). Im still learning and i guess I always will be
learning.


I do though, still need a simple formula. I have changed my worksheet
around to be more 'user friendly', but the original problem still
exists, cells I can change to suit. Im not very experienced like you
guys in Excel, but I do have that knowledge to do that. I hope that
someone can qustill help me.


Again, TIA
Esra


On Aug 30, 9:44 am, Esradekan wrote:


But what about the thought that if you read the 'whole' of the posts
to see what has been happening - so to speak - its natural to read the
original post first, at the top, and then following posts after that.


But it doesnt matter, whatever you guys think is best I will do. I DO
still need a solution for my original question and I think this thread
is getting way off topic.


Esra


On Aug 30, 12:21 am, "Don Guillett" wrote:


If you think about it, it is NOT natural to have to page down to the
bottom
to read a post. With top posting it's right in front of you. Most here
agree. Some don't....
--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software
"smartin" wrote in
message


m...


Don Guillett wrote:


[much snipped]
Also, please top post.


[OT]


I usually refrain from participating in top- vs bottom-posting
debacles,
but I do not recall any mention of a "top posting rule" here. Or is
that
your personal preference?


Both methods have merit. IME, in technical discussions the latter is
preferred and more natural.


YMMV.- Hide qustill help me.


Again, TIA
Esra- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


smartin

sumif maybe? [OT]
 
Don Guillett wrote:

If you think about it, it is NOT natural to have to page down to the
bottom to read a post. With top posting it's right in front of you. Most
here agree. Some don't....


Don, I disagree (see my dissertation response to Esra if you care), but
it's cool. I do understand the bother factor, it just doesn't bother me
so much. Enjoy your weekend!

Esradekan

sumif maybe? [OT]
 
On Aug 30, 11:51*am, smartin wrote:
Don Guillett wrote:

If you think about it, it is NOT natural to have to page down to the
bottom to read a post. With top posting it's right in front of you. Most
here agree. Some don't....


Don, I disagree (see my dissertation response to Esra if you care), but
it's cool. I do understand the bother factor, it just doesn't bother me
so much. Enjoy your weekend!


Can we end this (no solution) discussion now?

Esra

Esradekan

sumif maybe? [OT]
 
Sorry, posted wrong,,,,,

Can we end this (no solution) discussion now?
Esra


On Aug 30, 11:51*am, smartin wrote:
Don Guillett wrote:

If you think about it, it is NOT natural to have to page down to the
bottom to read a post. With top posting it's right in front of you. Most
here agree. Some don't....


Don, I disagree (see my dissertation response to Esra if you care), but
it's cool. I do understand the bother factor, it just doesn't bother me
so much. Enjoy your weekend!


Esradekan

sumif maybe? [OT]
 


Well, everyone can relax, I have sorted it out. Thanks so much to the
people who helped me. Ended up redesigning the workbook, but was
worth it.

Esra



On Aug 30, 2:05*pm, Esradekan wrote:
Sorry, posted wrong,,,,,

Can we end this (no solution) discussion now?Esra

On Aug 30, 11:51*am, smartin wrote:



Don Guillett wrote:


If you think about it, it is NOT natural to have to page down to the
bottom to read a post. With top posting it's right in front of you. Most
here agree. Some don't....


Don, I disagree (see my dissertation response toEsraif you care), but
it's cool. I do understand the bother factor, it just doesn't bother me
so much. Enjoy your weekend!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -



Don Guillett

sumif maybe? [OT]
 
I did NOT get your file but am happy to see that you are now happy. On
future postings, please try to fully explain your problem the first time. A
pet peeve of many here, including me...

--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software

"Esradekan" wrote in message
...
Emailed again now, hopefully you will get it soon.

TY for your help.

Esra



On Aug 30, 11:16 am, "Don Guillett" wrote:
Apparently it became lost in cyberland because I never saw it. Care to
re-send and I'll take a look tomorrow.

--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software
"Esradekan" wrote in message

...
Yes and I emailed you the workbook, assumed you didnt get time to look
at it, because that was yesterday. I thank you for the offer.

Esra
TIA

On Aug 30,

10:36 am, "Don Guillett" wrote:



Let's see. As I recall, in an earlier post of mine I offered to take a
look.
IF.....
--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software
"Esradekan" wrote in
message


...
You know something, I have learnt a thing or two here this time
around. I was relatively new at posting here, just for the odd thing
now and again. I post using google and during the process of viewing
the posts, I displayed them differently. NOW I can see the merits of
top posting. It does make sense. I also never meant to **** anybody
off and it wouild seem I have done that. I always treat people how
they treat me. So if your one of the people I have ****ed off, I
apologise. Hell I never even knew the subject line had been changed
of the thread (OT). Im still learning and i guess I always will be
learning.


I do though, still need a simple formula. I have changed my worksheet
around to be more 'user friendly', but the original problem still
exists, cells I can change to suit. Im not very experienced like you
guys in Excel, but I do have that knowledge to do that. I hope that
someone can qustill help me.


Again, TIA
Esra


On Aug 30, 9:44 am, Esradekan wrote:


But what about the thought that if you read the 'whole' of the posts
to see what has been happening - so to speak - its natural to read the
original post first, at the top, and then following posts after that.


But it doesnt matter, whatever you guys think is best I will do. I DO
still need a solution for my original question and I think this thread
is getting way off topic.


Esra


On Aug 30, 12:21 am, "Don Guillett" wrote:


If you think about it, it is NOT natural to have to page down to the
bottom
to read a post. With top posting it's right in front of you. Most
here
agree. Some don't....
--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software
"smartin" wrote in
message


m...


Don Guillett wrote:


[much snipped]
Also, please top post.


[OT]


I usually refrain from participating in top- vs bottom-posting
debacles,
but I do not recall any mention of a "top posting rule" here. Or
is
that
your personal preference?


Both methods have merit. IME, in technical discussions the latter
is
preferred and more natural.


YMMV.- Hide qustill help me.


Again, TIA
Esra- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -



Esradekan

sumif maybe? [OT]
 
IMO (to use one of your guys terms), I thought I did, but not being
genius with excel, obviously not.

It shouldnt of mattered where the cells were I would of thought, I
could have adapted any formula to suit. All I did believe it or not,
was put in an extra column, converting the dates to read the months,
then the SUMIF formula worked. I named the column with the months
"Date" (ie 14/4/2008 = April, 26/5/2008 = May) and used that as the
criteria for the formula.

But like so many things, obviously I am wrong, just like putting your
email address in an email Don.

But ty anyway.

Esra


On Aug 31, 12:08*am, "Don Guillett" wrote:
I did NOT get your file but am happy to see that you are now happy. On
future postings, please try to fully explain your problem the first time. A
pet peeve of many here, including me...

--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software
"Esradekan" wrote in message

...
Emailed again now, hopefully you will get it soon.

TY for your help.

Esra

On Aug 30, 11:16 am, "Don Guillett" wrote:



Apparently it became lost in cyberland because I never saw it. Care to
re-send and I'll take a look tomorrow.


--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software
"Esradekan" wrote in message


...
Yes and I emailed you the workbook, assumed you didnt get time to look
at it, because that was yesterday. I thank you for the offer.


Esra
TIA


On Aug 30,


10:36 am, "Don Guillett" wrote:


Let's see. As I recall, in an earlier post of mine I offered to take a
look.
IF.....
--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software
"Esradekan" wrote in
message


....
You know something, I have learnt a thing or two here this time
around. I was relatively new at posting here, just for the odd thing
now and again. I post using google and during the process of viewing
the posts, I displayed them differently. NOW I can see the merits of
top posting. It does make sense. I also never meant to **** anybody
off and it wouild seem I have done that. I always treat people how
they treat me. So if your one of the people I have ****ed off, I
apologise. Hell I never even knew the subject line had been changed
of the thread (OT). Im still learning and i guess I always will be
learning.


I do though, still need a simple formula. I have changed my worksheet
around to be more 'user friendly', but the original problem still
exists, cells I can change to suit. Im not very experienced like you
guys in Excel, but I do have that knowledge to do that. I hope that
someone can qustill help me.


Again, TIA
Esra


On Aug 30, 9:44 am, Esradekan wrote:


But what about the thought that if you read the 'whole' of the posts
to see what has been happening - so to speak - its natural to read the
original post first, at the top, and then following posts after that.


Don Guillett

sumif maybe? [OT]
 
I do not know how my email address became corrupted. Go back and look at my
ORIGINAL post and all you have to do is click on it.


If you still want to send the file, you will not need a helper column.

--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software

"Esradekan" wrote in message
...
IMO (to use one of your guys terms), I thought I did, but not being
genius with excel, obviously not.

It shouldnt of mattered where the cells were I would of thought, I
could have adapted any formula to suit. All I did believe it or not,
was put in an extra column, converting the dates to read the months,
then the SUMIF formula worked. I named the column with the months
"Date" (ie 14/4/2008 = April, 26/5/2008 = May) and used that as the
criteria for the formula.

But like so many things, obviously I am wrong, just like putting your
email address in an email Don.

But ty anyway.

Esra


On Aug 31, 12:08 am, "Don Guillett" wrote:
I did NOT get your file but am happy to see that you are now happy. On
future postings, please try to fully explain your problem the first time.
A
pet peeve of many here, including me...

--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software
"Esradekan" wrote in message

...
Emailed again now, hopefully you will get it soon.

TY for your help.

Esra

On Aug 30, 11:16 am, "Don Guillett" wrote:



Apparently it became lost in cyberland because I never saw it. Care to
re-send and I'll take a look tomorrow.


--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software
"Esradekan" wrote in
message


...
Yes and I emailed you the workbook, assumed you didnt get time to look
at it, because that was yesterday. I thank you for the offer.


Esra
TIA


On Aug 30,


10:36 am, "Don Guillett" wrote:


Let's see. As I recall, in an earlier post of mine I offered to take a
look.
IF.....
--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software
"Esradekan" wrote in
message


...
You know something, I have learnt a thing or two here this time
around. I was relatively new at posting here, just for the odd thing
now and again. I post using google and during the process of viewing
the posts, I displayed them differently. NOW I can see the merits of
top posting. It does make sense. I also never meant to **** anybody
off and it wouild seem I have done that. I always treat people how
they treat me. So if your one of the people I have ****ed off, I
apologise. Hell I never even knew the subject line had been changed
of the thread (OT). Im still learning and i guess I always will be
learning.


I do though, still need a simple formula. I have changed my worksheet
around to be more 'user friendly', but the original problem still
exists, cells I can change to suit. Im not very experienced like you
guys in Excel, but I do have that knowledge to do that. I hope that
someone can qustill help me.


Again, TIA
Esra


On Aug 30, 9:44 am, Esradekan wrote:


But what about the thought that if you read the 'whole' of the posts
to see what has been happening - so to speak - its natural to read
the
original post first, at the top, and then following posts after
that.


But it doesnt matter, whatever you guys think is best I will do. I
DO
still need a solution for my original question and I think this
thread
is getting way off topic.


Esra


On Aug 30, 12:21 am, "Don Guillett"
wrote:


If you think about it, it is NOT natural to have to page down to
the
bottom
to read a post. With top posting it's right in front of you. Most
here
agree. Some don't....
--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software
"smartin" wrote in
message


m...


Don Guillett wrote:


[much snipped]
Also, please top post.


[OT]


I usually refrain from participating in top- vs bottom-posting
debacles,
but I do not recall any mention of a "top posting rule" here. Or
is
that
your personal preference?


Both methods have merit. IME, in technical discussions the
latter
is
preferred and more natural.


YMMV.- Hide qustill help me.


Again, TIA
Esra- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -



Pete_UK

sumif maybe? [OT]
 
Don,

I think Esra mentioned in an earlier post that he was using Google
Groups to view these posts - everyone's email address gets some degree
of protection on GG, so that might be why he couldn't send the file to
you.

Pete

On Aug 30, 11:04*pm, "Don Guillett" wrote:
I do not know how my email address became corrupted. Go back and look at my
ORIGINAL post and all you have to do is click on it.


If you still want to send the file, you will not need a helper column.

--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software
"Esradekan" wrote in message


Esradekan

sumif maybe? [OT]
 
TY pete, I knew I wasnt losing my marbles totally.

I didnt expect anyone to use a number in their email address either.

My old mother told me years and years ago, do not assume, it makes an
ASS out of U and ME.

Guess I shouldnt have assumed with email addresses.

Esra






On Aug 31, 12:26*pm, Pete_UK wrote:
Don,

I thinkEsramentioned in an earlier post that he was using Google
Groups to view these posts - everyone's email address gets some degree
of protection on GG, so that might be why he couldn't send the file to
you.

Pete

On Aug 30, 11:04*pm, "Don Guillett" wrote:



I do not know how my email address became corrupted. Go back and look at my
ORIGINAL post and all you have to do is click on it.


If you still want to send the file, you will not need a helper column.


--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software
"Esradekan" wrote in message- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -



Harlan Grove[_2_]

sumif maybe? [OT]
 
"David Biddulph" <groups [at] biddulph.org.uk wrote...
Top-posting has been the widely accepted preference on the Excel newsgroups
for some time.

http://www.cpearson.com/excel/newposte.htm

....

And from that referenced article:

'10 If you're following up to a previous post, you don't need to
include everything. Snip out what's not relevant. But do include what
is relevant. Some people may have missed the original post.'

Note the part about snipping. If top-posters EVER snipped ANYTHING,
it's news to me. But top-posters are the kind of people who are choosy
about which rules to follow. Those that support their innate laziness
are just fine. Other rules which might require effort and/or thought
are for other people.

Top posting may be preferred by most respondents, but only because
most respondents use Outlook Express or web portals that default to
top posting. It'd take a little work to delete the entire preceding
thread, it'd take a bit more work ONCE to disable automatic quoting,
and it'd take some thought to snip portions of the preceding thread.
It seems such little effort and/or little thought it beyond the
capacity or incliniation of top-posters.

If you're going to top-post, why quote at all? There's always Google
for the preceding thread. If you quote, then you should do so for the
context it provides, and the only way it provides USEFUL context is if
the context PRECEDES the response.

Don Guillett

sumif maybe? [OT]
 
I didnt expect anyone to use a number in their email address either.
I didn't either but it seems that there was already a dguillett so TW
assigned the 1......

--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software

"Esradekan" wrote in message
...
TY pete, I knew I wasnt losing my marbles totally.

I didnt expect anyone to use a number in their email address either.

My old mother told me years and years ago, do not assume, it makes an
ASS out of U and ME.

Guess I shouldnt have assumed with email addresses.

Esra






On Aug 31, 12:26 pm, Pete_UK wrote:
Don,

I thinkEsramentioned in an earlier post that he was using Google
Groups to view these posts - everyone's email address gets some degree
of protection on GG, so that might be why he couldn't send the file to
you.

Pete

On Aug 30, 11:04 pm, "Don Guillett" wrote:



I do not know how my email address became corrupted. Go back and look at
my
ORIGINAL post and all you have to do is click on it.


If you still want to send the file, you will not need a helper column.


--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software
"Esradekan" wrote in
message- Hide quoted text -


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