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Hi there. In searching for 1024 I found a lot of comments mentioning that
Excel has a cell limitation of 1024 characters. What I'm running into is that when performing an export from Excel into a delimited text file (csv) that it has a 1024 characters per line limitation as well. Some of the files I'm dealing with have lines of data (sheet has 40 columns) that have more than this many characters, which causes it to wrap, which causes my import of the data to then fail, as it's not ending/starting as I expected. Is there any way around this export line limit? I've tested it on MSExcel 2000, 2003, and 2007 and always gotten the same result. |
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How are you exporting those long strings?
I used xl2003 and filled a bunch of cells (A1:C20) with this formula: =REPT("a",1023)&"xxx" Each cell's value is 1026 characters long. I did a simple File|SaveAs (and used "CSV (MS-DOS)(*.csv)" as the "save as type:" option. I opened the .csv file in my favorite text editor (UltraEdit, actually). Each line in the .csv file was 3080 characters (1026*3 + 2 (for the separating comma). =========== I'm guessing that you're not saving/exporting the file as a .CSV file. I'm guessing that you're actually saving as a .PRN (fixed width fields) file. If that's the case, ... Saved from a previous post: There's a limit of 240 characters per line when you do File|saveas and use .prn files. So if your data wouldn't create a record that was longer than 240 characters, you can save the file as .prn. I like to use a fixed width font (courier new) and adjust the column widths manually. But this can take a while to get it perfect. (Save it, check the output in a text editor, back to excel, adjust, save, and recheck in that text editor. Lather, rinse, and repeat!) Alternatively, you could concatenate the cell values into another column: =LEFT(A1&REPT(" ",5),5) & LEFT(B1&REPT(" ",4),4) & TEXT(C1,"000,000.00") (You'll have to modify it to match what you want.) Drag it down the column to get all that fixed width stuff. Then I'd copy and paste to notepad and save from there. Once I figured out that ugly formula, I kept it and just unhide that column when I wanted to export the data. If that doesn't work for you, maybe you could do it with a macro. Here's a link that provides a macro: http://google.com/groups?threadm=015...0a% 40phx.gbl ============================ If this is completely wrong, you may want to give more details on how you're exporting the data and the version of excel you're using. Dave wrote: Hi there. In searching for 1024 I found a lot of comments mentioning that Excel has a cell limitation of 1024 characters. What I'm running into is that when performing an export from Excel into a delimited text file (csv) that it has a 1024 characters per line limitation as well. Some of the files I'm dealing with have lines of data (sheet has 40 columns) that have more than this many characters, which causes it to wrap, which causes my import of the data to then fail, as it's not ending/starting as I expected. Is there any way around this export line limit? I've tested it on MSExcel 2000, 2003, and 2007 and always gotten the same result. -- Dave Peterson |
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When you opened it in UltraEdit, did it show up as one line?
I am saving it as CSV - specifically what I am doing is taking a large amount of data, which is in columns, and saving it in CSV so I can upload it as a flat file. Using it for the past few months without issue, however today I had one field that had 690 characters in it. This ended up pushing the total export (which has a bunch of other columns with anything from zero to 100 characters in each) to 1069 characters. Originally when I saw the export wrapping around, I figured somehow an extra line break had gotten in there. After review, I could not find it. I then noticed that it was looping 45 characters over always...a little investigation led me to the 1024 conclusion. "Dave Peterson" wrote: How are you exporting those long strings? I used xl2003 and filled a bunch of cells (A1:C20) with this formula: =REPT("a",1023)&"xxx" Each cell's value is 1026 characters long. I did a simple File|SaveAs (and used "CSV (MS-DOS)(*.csv)" as the "save as type:" option. I opened the .csv file in my favorite text editor (UltraEdit, actually). Each line in the .csv file was 3080 characters (1026*3 + 2 (for the separating comma). =========== I'm guessing that you're not saving/exporting the file as a .CSV file. I'm guessing that you're actually saving as a .PRN (fixed width fields) file. If that's the case, ... Saved from a previous post: There's a limit of 240 characters per line when you do File|saveas and use .prn files. So if your data wouldn't create a record that was longer than 240 characters, you can save the file as .prn. I like to use a fixed width font (courier new) and adjust the column widths manually. But this can take a while to get it perfect. (Save it, check the output in a text editor, back to excel, adjust, save, and recheck in that text editor. Lather, rinse, and repeat!) Alternatively, you could concatenate the cell values into another column: =LEFT(A1&REPT(" ",5),5) & LEFT(B1&REPT(" ",4),4) & TEXT(C1,"000,000.00") (You'll have to modify it to match what you want.) Drag it down the column to get all that fixed width stuff. Then I'd copy and paste to notepad and save from there. Once I figured out that ugly formula, I kept it and just unhide that column when I wanted to export the data. If that doesn't work for you, maybe you could do it with a macro. Here's a link that provides a macro: http://google.com/groups?threadm=015...0a% 40phx.gbl ============================ If this is completely wrong, you may want to give more details on how you're exporting the data and the version of excel you're using. Dave wrote: Hi there. In searching for 1024 I found a lot of comments mentioning that Excel has a cell limitation of 1024 characters. What I'm running into is that when performing an export from Excel into a delimited text file (csv) that it has a 1024 characters per line limitation as well. Some of the files I'm dealing with have lines of data (sheet has 40 columns) that have more than this many characters, which causes it to wrap, which causes my import of the data to then fail, as it's not ending/starting as I expected. Is there any way around this export line limit? I've tested it on MSExcel 2000, 2003, and 2007 and always gotten the same result. -- Dave Peterson |
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Yes--one long line.
What text editor did you use to view the .csv file? Maybe it's a problem with that text editor??? And are you sure that there are no linefeeds in any of those cells. Maybe that's the problem??? If you think you have any, you could use: select the range to fix (all the cells???) Edit|replace what: ctrl-j with: (space character or hyphen or whatever you want) replace all Then do the SaveAs. (I'd save as a normal workbook before I did this so I could reopen the .xls file and have my original data available.) Dave wrote: When you opened it in UltraEdit, did it show up as one line? I am saving it as CSV - specifically what I am doing is taking a large amount of data, which is in columns, and saving it in CSV so I can upload it as a flat file. Using it for the past few months without issue, however today I had one field that had 690 characters in it. This ended up pushing the total export (which has a bunch of other columns with anything from zero to 100 characters in each) to 1069 characters. Originally when I saw the export wrapping around, I figured somehow an extra line break had gotten in there. After review, I could not find it. I then noticed that it was looping 45 characters over always...a little investigation led me to the 1024 conclusion. "Dave Peterson" wrote: How are you exporting those long strings? I used xl2003 and filled a bunch of cells (A1:C20) with this formula: =REPT("a",1023)&"xxx" Each cell's value is 1026 characters long. I did a simple File|SaveAs (and used "CSV (MS-DOS)(*.csv)" as the "save as type:" option. I opened the .csv file in my favorite text editor (UltraEdit, actually). Each line in the .csv file was 3080 characters (1026*3 + 2 (for the separating comma). =========== I'm guessing that you're not saving/exporting the file as a .CSV file. I'm guessing that you're actually saving as a .PRN (fixed width fields) file. If that's the case, ... Saved from a previous post: There's a limit of 240 characters per line when you do File|saveas and use .prn files. So if your data wouldn't create a record that was longer than 240 characters, you can save the file as .prn. I like to use a fixed width font (courier new) and adjust the column widths manually. But this can take a while to get it perfect. (Save it, check the output in a text editor, back to excel, adjust, save, and recheck in that text editor. Lather, rinse, and repeat!) Alternatively, you could concatenate the cell values into another column: =LEFT(A1&REPT(" ",5),5) & LEFT(B1&REPT(" ",4),4) & TEXT(C1,"000,000.00") (You'll have to modify it to match what you want.) Drag it down the column to get all that fixed width stuff. Then I'd copy and paste to notepad and save from there. Once I figured out that ugly formula, I kept it and just unhide that column when I wanted to export the data. If that doesn't work for you, maybe you could do it with a macro. Here's a link that provides a macro: http://google.com/groups?threadm=015...0a% 40phx.gbl ============================ If this is completely wrong, you may want to give more details on how you're exporting the data and the version of excel you're using. Dave wrote: Hi there. In searching for 1024 I found a lot of comments mentioning that Excel has a cell limitation of 1024 characters. What I'm running into is that when performing an export from Excel into a delimited text file (csv) that it has a 1024 characters per line limitation as well. Some of the files I'm dealing with have lines of data (sheet has 40 columns) that have more than this many characters, which causes it to wrap, which causes my import of the data to then fail, as it's not ending/starting as I expected. Is there any way around this export line limit? I've tested it on MSExcel 2000, 2003, and 2007 and always gotten the same result. -- Dave Peterson -- Dave Peterson |
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I'm reviewing it in Notepad, and it's showing the data failing exactly where
it is in the system taking the text import (Informatica). I have confirmed it's not a line feed nor carriage return. Replacing the cell contents with nothing but a string of numbers (012345678901234567890 etc) has the exact same effect after 1024 characters. "Dave Peterson" wrote: Yes--one long line. What text editor did you use to view the .csv file? Maybe it's a problem with that text editor??? And are you sure that there are no linefeeds in any of those cells. Maybe that's the problem??? If you think you have any, you could use: select the range to fix (all the cells???) Edit|replace what: ctrl-j with: (space character or hyphen or whatever you want) replace all Then do the SaveAs. (I'd save as a normal workbook before I did this so I could reopen the .xls file and have my original data available.) Dave wrote: When you opened it in UltraEdit, did it show up as one line? I am saving it as CSV - specifically what I am doing is taking a large amount of data, which is in columns, and saving it in CSV so I can upload it as a flat file. Using it for the past few months without issue, however today I had one field that had 690 characters in it. This ended up pushing the total export (which has a bunch of other columns with anything from zero to 100 characters in each) to 1069 characters. Originally when I saw the export wrapping around, I figured somehow an extra line break had gotten in there. After review, I could not find it. I then noticed that it was looping 45 characters over always...a little investigation led me to the 1024 conclusion. "Dave Peterson" wrote: How are you exporting those long strings? I used xl2003 and filled a bunch of cells (A1:C20) with this formula: =REPT("a",1023)&"xxx" Each cell's value is 1026 characters long. I did a simple File|SaveAs (and used "CSV (MS-DOS)(*.csv)" as the "save as type:" option. I opened the .csv file in my favorite text editor (UltraEdit, actually). Each line in the .csv file was 3080 characters (1026*3 + 2 (for the separating comma). =========== I'm guessing that you're not saving/exporting the file as a .CSV file. I'm guessing that you're actually saving as a .PRN (fixed width fields) file. If that's the case, ... Saved from a previous post: There's a limit of 240 characters per line when you do File|saveas and use .prn files. So if your data wouldn't create a record that was longer than 240 characters, you can save the file as .prn. I like to use a fixed width font (courier new) and adjust the column widths manually. But this can take a while to get it perfect. (Save it, check the output in a text editor, back to excel, adjust, save, and recheck in that text editor. Lather, rinse, and repeat!) Alternatively, you could concatenate the cell values into another column: =LEFT(A1&REPT(" ",5),5) & LEFT(B1&REPT(" ",4),4) & TEXT(C1,"000,000.00") (You'll have to modify it to match what you want.) Drag it down the column to get all that fixed width stuff. Then I'd copy and paste to notepad and save from there. Once I figured out that ugly formula, I kept it and just unhide that column when I wanted to export the data. If that doesn't work for you, maybe you could do it with a macro. Here's a link that provides a macro: http://google.com/groups?threadm=015...0a% 40phx.gbl ============================ If this is completely wrong, you may want to give more details on how you're exporting the data and the version of excel you're using. Dave wrote: Hi there. In searching for 1024 I found a lot of comments mentioning that Excel has a cell limitation of 1024 characters. What I'm running into is that when performing an export from Excel into a delimited text file (csv) that it has a 1024 characters per line limitation as well. Some of the files I'm dealing with have lines of data (sheet has 40 columns) that have more than this many characters, which causes it to wrap, which causes my import of the data to then fail, as it's not ending/starting as I expected. Is there any way around this export line limit? I've tested it on MSExcel 2000, 2003, and 2007 and always gotten the same result. -- Dave Peterson -- Dave Peterson |
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I think it's a limitation of notepad.
You could try importing a small portion of data into your application to see if works ok. Or you could search for a different text editor. I've never used this one (that I recall), but NotePad+ (search google) has gotten good reviews. And Wordpad.exe looks like you can see the whole logical line on one physical line. Dave wrote: I'm reviewing it in Notepad, and it's showing the data failing exactly where it is in the system taking the text import (Informatica). I have confirmed it's not a line feed nor carriage return. Replacing the cell contents with nothing but a string of numbers (012345678901234567890 etc) has the exact same effect after 1024 characters. "Dave Peterson" wrote: Yes--one long line. What text editor did you use to view the .csv file? Maybe it's a problem with that text editor??? And are you sure that there are no linefeeds in any of those cells. Maybe that's the problem??? If you think you have any, you could use: select the range to fix (all the cells???) Edit|replace what: ctrl-j with: (space character or hyphen or whatever you want) replace all Then do the SaveAs. (I'd save as a normal workbook before I did this so I could reopen the .xls file and have my original data available.) Dave wrote: When you opened it in UltraEdit, did it show up as one line? I am saving it as CSV - specifically what I am doing is taking a large amount of data, which is in columns, and saving it in CSV so I can upload it as a flat file. Using it for the past few months without issue, however today I had one field that had 690 characters in it. This ended up pushing the total export (which has a bunch of other columns with anything from zero to 100 characters in each) to 1069 characters. Originally when I saw the export wrapping around, I figured somehow an extra line break had gotten in there. After review, I could not find it. I then noticed that it was looping 45 characters over always...a little investigation led me to the 1024 conclusion. "Dave Peterson" wrote: How are you exporting those long strings? I used xl2003 and filled a bunch of cells (A1:C20) with this formula: =REPT("a",1023)&"xxx" Each cell's value is 1026 characters long. I did a simple File|SaveAs (and used "CSV (MS-DOS)(*.csv)" as the "save as type:" option. I opened the .csv file in my favorite text editor (UltraEdit, actually). Each line in the .csv file was 3080 characters (1026*3 + 2 (for the separating comma). =========== I'm guessing that you're not saving/exporting the file as a .CSV file. I'm guessing that you're actually saving as a .PRN (fixed width fields) file. If that's the case, ... Saved from a previous post: There's a limit of 240 characters per line when you do File|saveas and use .prn files. So if your data wouldn't create a record that was longer than 240 characters, you can save the file as .prn. I like to use a fixed width font (courier new) and adjust the column widths manually. But this can take a while to get it perfect. (Save it, check the output in a text editor, back to excel, adjust, save, and recheck in that text editor. Lather, rinse, and repeat!) Alternatively, you could concatenate the cell values into another column: =LEFT(A1&REPT(" ",5),5) & LEFT(B1&REPT(" ",4),4) & TEXT(C1,"000,000.00") (You'll have to modify it to match what you want.) Drag it down the column to get all that fixed width stuff. Then I'd copy and paste to notepad and save from there. Once I figured out that ugly formula, I kept it and just unhide that column when I wanted to export the data. If that doesn't work for you, maybe you could do it with a macro. Here's a link that provides a macro: http://google.com/groups?threadm=015...0a% 40phx.gbl ============================ If this is completely wrong, you may want to give more details on how you're exporting the data and the version of excel you're using. Dave wrote: Hi there. In searching for 1024 I found a lot of comments mentioning that Excel has a cell limitation of 1024 characters. What I'm running into is that when performing an export from Excel into a delimited text file (csv) that it has a 1024 characters per line limitation as well. Some of the files I'm dealing with have lines of data (sheet has 40 columns) that have more than this many characters, which causes it to wrap, which causes my import of the data to then fail, as it's not ending/starting as I expected. Is there any way around this export line limit? I've tested it on MSExcel 2000, 2003, and 2007 and always gotten the same result. -- Dave Peterson -- Dave Peterson -- Dave Peterson |
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Having the same problem in the import of the data though (which uses a
program called Informatica), so it's not just Notepad. Notepad just happens to show it. Oddly enough, Wordpad does not. "Dave Peterson" wrote: I think it's a limitation of notepad. You could try importing a small portion of data into your application to see if works ok. Or you could search for a different text editor. I've never used this one (that I recall), but NotePad+ (search google) has gotten good reviews. And Wordpad.exe looks like you can see the whole logical line on one physical line. Dave wrote: I'm reviewing it in Notepad, and it's showing the data failing exactly where it is in the system taking the text import (Informatica). I have confirmed it's not a line feed nor carriage return. Replacing the cell contents with nothing but a string of numbers (012345678901234567890 etc) has the exact same effect after 1024 characters. <text snip |
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Your data seems to follow the CSV rules nicely.
It's informatica that's having trouble. I bet you have no control how that works. So you'll have to live by its rules. And I bet that one of its rules is the length of strings it accepts (just a guess). On the other hand, maybe there's a forum dedicated to Informatica that can give you some hints/workarounds. Dave wrote: Having the same problem in the import of the data though (which uses a program called Informatica), so it's not just Notepad. Notepad just happens to show it. Oddly enough, Wordpad does not. "Dave Peterson" wrote: I think it's a limitation of notepad. You could try importing a small portion of data into your application to see if works ok. Or you could search for a different text editor. I've never used this one (that I recall), but NotePad+ (search google) has gotten good reviews. And Wordpad.exe looks like you can see the whole logical line on one physical line. Dave wrote: I'm reviewing it in Notepad, and it's showing the data failing exactly where it is in the system taking the text import (Informatica). I have confirmed it's not a line feed nor carriage return. Replacing the cell contents with nothing but a string of numbers (012345678901234567890 etc) has the exact same effect after 1024 characters. <text snip -- Dave Peterson |
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So, that you're aware of, there's no 1024 per line limit then? It's odd I
see the break in Notepad (before I send the file on) at the exact point that Informatica also reports the line error. I'm more than willing to go with Informatica being the break point, but with Notepad doing the same thing, on multiple computers, it points to Excel as the error point. "Dave Peterson" wrote: Your data seems to follow the CSV rules nicely. It's informatica that's having trouble. I bet you have no control how that works. So you'll have to live by its rules. And I bet that one of its rules is the length of strings it accepts (just a guess). On the other hand, maybe there's a forum dedicated to Informatica that can give you some hints/workarounds. Dave wrote: Having the same problem in the import of the data though (which uses a program called Informatica), so it's not just Notepad. Notepad just happens to show it. Oddly enough, Wordpad does not. "Dave Peterson" wrote: I think it's a limitation of notepad. You could try importing a small portion of data into your application to see if works ok. Or you could search for a different text editor. I've never used this one (that I recall), but NotePad+ (search google) has gotten good reviews. And Wordpad.exe looks like you can see the whole logical line on one physical line. Dave wrote: I'm reviewing it in Notepad, and it's showing the data failing exactly where it is in the system taking the text import (Informatica). I have confirmed it's not a line feed nor carriage return. Replacing the cell contents with nothing but a string of numbers (012345678901234567890 etc) has the exact same effect after 1024 characters. <text snip -- Dave Peterson |
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Try viewing the file in WordPad on multiple computers. What do you see?
I think it's a limitation of NotePad and Informatica. But if you don't believe that, search for a hex editor that will show you what's in those strings. Dave wrote: So, that you're aware of, there's no 1024 per line limit then? It's odd I see the break in Notepad (before I send the file on) at the exact point that Informatica also reports the line error. I'm more than willing to go with Informatica being the break point, but with Notepad doing the same thing, on multiple computers, it points to Excel as the error point. "Dave Peterson" wrote: Your data seems to follow the CSV rules nicely. It's informatica that's having trouble. I bet you have no control how that works. So you'll have to live by its rules. And I bet that one of its rules is the length of strings it accepts (just a guess). On the other hand, maybe there's a forum dedicated to Informatica that can give you some hints/workarounds. Dave wrote: Having the same problem in the import of the data though (which uses a program called Informatica), so it's not just Notepad. Notepad just happens to show it. Oddly enough, Wordpad does not. "Dave Peterson" wrote: I think it's a limitation of notepad. You could try importing a small portion of data into your application to see if works ok. Or you could search for a different text editor. I've never used this one (that I recall), but NotePad+ (search google) has gotten good reviews. And Wordpad.exe looks like you can see the whole logical line on one physical line. Dave wrote: I'm reviewing it in Notepad, and it's showing the data failing exactly where it is in the system taking the text import (Informatica). I have confirmed it's not a line feed nor carriage return. Replacing the cell contents with nothing but a string of numbers (012345678901234567890 etc) has the exact same effect after 1024 characters. <text snip -- Dave Peterson -- Dave Peterson |
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(Sorry on slow response, too many plates, not enough sticks to spin them on)
Thanks, I will give that a try. Maybe I'll find something. I wish I could find the exact failure so I could mitigate it! "Dave Peterson" wrote: Try viewing the file in WordPad on multiple computers. What do you see? I think it's a limitation of NotePad and Informatica. But if you don't believe that, search for a hex editor that will show you what's in those strings. Dave wrote: So, that you're aware of, there's no 1024 per line limit then? It's odd I see the break in Notepad (before I send the file on) at the exact point that Informatica also reports the line error. I'm more than willing to go with Informatica being the break point, but with Notepad doing the same thing, on multiple computers, it points to Excel as the error point. "Dave Peterson" wrote: Your data seems to follow the CSV rules nicely. It's informatica that's having trouble. I bet you have no control how that works. So you'll have to live by its rules. And I bet that one of its rules is the length of strings it accepts (just a guess). On the other hand, maybe there's a forum dedicated to Informatica that can give you some hints/workarounds. Dave wrote: Having the same problem in the import of the data though (which uses a program called Informatica), so it's not just Notepad. Notepad just happens to show it. Oddly enough, Wordpad does not. "Dave Peterson" wrote: I think it's a limitation of notepad. You could try importing a small portion of data into your application to see if works ok. Or you could search for a different text editor. I've never used this one (that I recall), but NotePad+ (search google) has gotten good reviews. And Wordpad.exe looks like you can see the whole logical line on one physical line. Dave wrote: I'm reviewing it in Notepad, and it's showing the data failing exactly where it is in the system taking the text import (Informatica). I have confirmed it's not a line feed nor carriage return. Replacing the cell contents with nothing but a string of numbers (012345678901234567890 etc) has the exact same effect after 1024 characters. <text snip -- Dave Peterson -- Dave Peterson |
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I think the failure is in those programs that won't accept the long lines--but
if you look through the documentation, you may find that it's not a failure--it's a feature. Dave wrote: (Sorry on slow response, too many plates, not enough sticks to spin them on) Thanks, I will give that a try. Maybe I'll find something. I wish I could find the exact failure so I could mitigate it! "Dave Peterson" wrote: Try viewing the file in WordPad on multiple computers. What do you see? I think it's a limitation of NotePad and Informatica. But if you don't believe that, search for a hex editor that will show you what's in those strings. Dave wrote: So, that you're aware of, there's no 1024 per line limit then? It's odd I see the break in Notepad (before I send the file on) at the exact point that Informatica also reports the line error. I'm more than willing to go with Informatica being the break point, but with Notepad doing the same thing, on multiple computers, it points to Excel as the error point. "Dave Peterson" wrote: Your data seems to follow the CSV rules nicely. It's informatica that's having trouble. I bet you have no control how that works. So you'll have to live by its rules. And I bet that one of its rules is the length of strings it accepts (just a guess). On the other hand, maybe there's a forum dedicated to Informatica that can give you some hints/workarounds. Dave wrote: Having the same problem in the import of the data though (which uses a program called Informatica), so it's not just Notepad. Notepad just happens to show it. Oddly enough, Wordpad does not. "Dave Peterson" wrote: I think it's a limitation of notepad. You could try importing a small portion of data into your application to see if works ok. Or you could search for a different text editor. I've never used this one (that I recall), but NotePad+ (search google) has gotten good reviews. And Wordpad.exe looks like you can see the whole logical line on one physical line. Dave wrote: I'm reviewing it in Notepad, and it's showing the data failing exactly where it is in the system taking the text import (Informatica). I have confirmed it's not a line feed nor carriage return. Replacing the cell contents with nothing but a string of numbers (012345678901234567890 etc) has the exact same effect after 1024 characters. <text snip -- Dave Peterson -- Dave Peterson -- Dave Peterson |
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